1) I will take you word for it - I was thinking about the Borg doing 0.75c but that depends on when they started moving and their rate of acceleration.
2)Hmm the energy is enough to cause plasma to escape but not enough for the entire planet thus energy transfer isnt uniform, is that what you are saying?
Any ideas on what the process is then?
I can't hazard a proper guess as to the mechanism, sadly. I'm quite sorry. I will continue to try and find someone else's calc's and compare them to mine.
As for the Borg, .75c? They weren't doing anything close to that!
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Actually, relative to SOMETHING in the galaxy they probably were doing .75c. Relative to the 8472 ships, on the other hand, they clearly were barely moving at all (for sci-fi standards).
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We cant see the 8472 ships in the shot the only thing they are moving relative to is the planet.
If they couldnt get to top speed in 13 seconds either their acceleration is bad or they are too dumb to live and simply sat their in orbit until the planet began to explode.
TheDarkling wrote:We cant see the 8472 ships in the shot the only thing they are moving relative to is the planet.
If they couldnt get to top speed in 13 seconds either their acceleration is bad or they are too dumb to live and simply sat their in orbit until the planet began to explode.
I'd object to top speed, but things in Trek really do seem to have top speed...
Where's the .75c for cruising speed of Cubes?
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Well 0.75c is the top safe speed before time dilation becomes a problem (TM I believe so it isnt strictly canon) - I suppose it could be that Borg go slower than starfleet ships.
Another question would be why they dont jump to warp but that would actually be intelligent.
TheDarkling wrote:We cant see the 8472 ships in the shot the only thing they are moving relative to is the planet.
If they couldnt get to top speed in 13 seconds either their acceleration is bad or they are too dumb to live and simply sat their in orbit until the planet began to explode.
Watch the show, their acceleration is bad, AND Borg reaction times are very slow.
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TheDarkling wrote:Well 0.75c is the top safe speed before time dilation becomes a problem (TM I believe so it isnt strictly canon) - I suppose it could be that Borg go slower than starfleet ships.
Another question would be why they dont jump to warp but that would actually be intelligent.
You see, having seen Borg ships move many times, and seeing something which actually is scaled at a fraction of lightspeed, I must say No Sir, they do not move anywhere -near- .75c.
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But their proven reaction times are not great. Perhaps their ability to adapt their shields quickly (this is now speculative) is some automated system on their cubes because their abilities to choose courses of action seem VERY slow.
I guess you're right, I spoke too soon about their acceleration.
With acceleration, you can almost never prove that ships are accelerating at their maximum rates, but they do appear to be fairly slow according to ST:FC, in which lots of Federation ships are seen swarming around what appears to be a nearly stationary Borg cube. This could, however, be because the Borg was ignoring the Federation ships.
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The best action would have to warp out that would take less than 13 seconds (it BOBW it takes <2 seconds) but for some reason they just sat there above a planet they knew was going to go Boom.
TheDarkling wrote:The best action would have to warp out that would take less than 13 seconds (it BOBW it takes <2 seconds) but for some reason they just sat there above a planet they knew was going to go Boom.
For whatever reason, they didn't run fast enough. Borg threat recignition continues to ping at about Night Of The Living Dead...
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TheDarkling wrote:Well 0.75c is the top safe speed before time dilation becomes a problem (TM I believe so it isnt strictly canon) - I suppose it could be that Borg go slower than starfleet ships.
Another question would be why they dont jump to warp but that would actually be intelligent.
IIRC, it was 0.25C they claimed, which is probably more reasonable in light of the Lorentz factor growing exponentially...
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I just found that max cruise velocity is 0.25 but speeds upto 0.75 are possible without modification - so whats full impulse?
I don't know.
If I scale against stationary objects in the background(Planets) it never goes above a few hundred m/s, except once the warp drives are engaged and they're zipping into the distance.
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TheDarkling wrote:Well 0.75c is the top safe speed before time dilation becomes a problem (TM I believe so it isnt strictly canon) - I suppose it could be that Borg go slower than starfleet ships.
Another question would be why they dont jump to warp but that would actually be intelligent.
Thats .25c if anyone hasn't pointed it out yet.
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His Divine Shadow: 0.25c is standard top speed but they can go to 0.75c.
DG_Cal_Wright: Combat sensors are tailored for just that.
We dont have any evidence there is? well then why isnt every singularity a gateway to 8472 land?
The singularity has special protocols Ref Prey.
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Well that last statement shows the level of your debating I guess.
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