Battle of Wolf 359 + Star Destroyer

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2002-07-26 02:36pm

Secretaries? On a warship? What's the Empire coming to?

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-07-26 02:43pm

Darth Yoshi wrote:Secretaries? On a warship? What's the Empire coming to?

a galaxy spanning organisation, which needs someone to type up terms of surrender as the captain dictates them

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2002-07-26 02:44pm

Hey, that's right, but don't they have droids for that kind of thing?

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-07-26 02:49pm

Oh yeah. curses, i am confounded

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2002-07-26 02:50pm

they should at least still have nurses

TheDarkling · Post by **TheDarkling** » 2002-07-26 02:55pm

The Rebels used medical droids and bacta tanks, wouldnt the Imps also use them?

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2002-07-26 02:55pm

I kinda feel sorry for any female nurses onboard the ISD.

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2002-07-26 03:00pm

TheDarkling wrote:The Rebels used medical droids and bacta tanks, wouldnt the Imps also use them?

were they not operating with minimal resourses?

TheDarkling · Post by **TheDarkling** » 2002-07-26 03:04pm

True but the droid seemed to be getting by well enough - I would see the setup as a doctor who had medical driods instead of nurses but there may be nurses.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-07-26 03:08pm

Three reasons why an ISD does not have to worry about Battle Damage VS ST, At least for awhile

1. ISD Carry Tons O shield Generators
2. They carry spare parts for said generators
3. An ISD shields can take over an hours constant attacks from 100 Defiant Class Ships with unlimited torps and power, And still be at near 50% Strength

Additonal thinkgs
4. Hypdrive means they can run away any time they want, just takes them a moment to claclate a course or a few seconds for a short mirco-jump
5. The Federation does not have 100 Defiants

6. HTL and Possibly MTL have more than ten times the power needed to destroy any Federation ship from the E-D down, HTL have over 60x and MTL 10x prehaps as low as 3x

You figure out the rest

Patrick Ogaard · Post by **Patrick Ogaard** » 2002-07-26 03:54pm

Given a vessel with the crew size of an ISD, there should be many facilities not shown on the usual ICS views. Many of these facilities should provide a bit more of an equal opportunity environment.

For one thing, it is impractical to ship all injured and sick personnel to a planetside installation or a medical ship. Given a population of 35,000+ personnel, many working around heavy and/or dangerous equipment, there should be a steady trickle of injuries and illnesses that would justify a small hospital facility. Beyond that, a vessel that is expected to enter combat, and that is loaded with almost 10,000 dedicated stormtroopers, really needs emergency treatment facilities capable of handling several hundred casualties simultaneously and providing extended care to injured personnel. It is unlikely that the medical personnel will consist solely of droids.

A ship of that size also needs shipboard entertainment, news and propaganda broadcasts in addition to or instead of conventional civilian broadcasts. Even with droid and computer assistance and canned programming from a central source, live people are better to relate to, not to mention easier to blame than droids if someone screws up.

There should also be no real problem finding genetically compatible mates in the ST galaxy. After all, pretty much every planet that supports life appears to have a population of humanoids genetically compatible with humans and often visually indistinguishable from humans.

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2002-07-26 03:58pm

It boggles the mind, how such logic-defying material can be broadcast.

TheDarkling · Post by **TheDarkling** » 2002-07-26 04:06pm

I have seen Imperial propaganda broadcasts (Holiday special *shudder*) and its enough to make anyone loyal - no one would defy the empire incase they made you watch it 24/7(makes the rebels look even braver).

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2002-07-27 11:36am

TheDarkling wrote:I have seen Imperial propaganda broadcasts (Holiday special *shudder*) and its enough to make anyone loyal - no one would defy the empire incase they made you watch it 24/7(makes the rebels look even braver).

I priveleged to have never seen the Star Wars Christmas Special.

TheDarkling · Post by **TheDarkling** » 2002-07-27 12:29pm

Isolder74: Arent you the lucky one - I had nightmares that consisted of Wookies howling for 20 minutes straight followed up by a musical number, the horror

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-07-27 01:02pm

Isolder74 wrote:
TheDarkling wrote:I have seen Imperial propaganda broadcasts (Holiday special *shudder*) and its enough to make anyone loyal - no one would defy the empire incase they made you watch it 24/7(makes the rebels look even braver).
I priveleged to have never seen the Star Wars Christmas Special.

Don't. Here's the lowdown on it:

Take Enterprise, make it a cartoon, remove the Vulcan, and make everyone anxious to celebrate an unusual holiday on the ship. Now give them difficulties that must be overcome in order for them to do so. That's the holiday special.

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2002-07-31 01:59pm

Master of Ossus wrote:
Isolder74 wrote:
TheDarkling wrote:I have seen Imperial propaganda broadcasts (Holiday special *shudder*) and its enough to make anyone loyal - no one would defy the empire incase they made you watch it 24/7(makes the rebels look even braver).
I priveleged to have never seen the Star Wars Christmas Special.
Don't. Here's the lowdown on it:

Take Enterprise, make it a cartoon, remove the Vulcan, and make everyone anxious to celebrate an unusual holiday on the ship. Now give them difficulties that must be overcome in order for them to do so. That's the holiday special.

Ik!!!!!!! yikes!!!!!! Stop tell me no more!!!!!!

tharkûn · Post by **tharkûn** » 2002-08-01 08:07pm

Well here's my take on it:

1. The technology in the SSD is worthless, the prize is the SSD itself and its navigational data.

2. The imps don't where the wormhole is, so you could fighted limited warfare with ease.

Now first off this is going to require tactics otherwise the Borg last about as long the Imps in RoTJ. So the "real borg" aka TNG Borg would be hopelessly slaughtered. The Borg in Voyager which seem to have some inkling of strategy besides "Resistance is futile" might have the collective brain to pull this off ... maybe not.

So let's assume for now that the borg can actually man the ship and read its database. Yes I know imperial databases are encrypted, I think the Borg have enough parrallel computing power to break the encryption (encryption is an exponential growth problem without quantum computers ... with quantum computers its polynomic ... either way an SSD is highly unlikely to have the amount of wiring needed to encrypt everything to the extent that thousands of smaller parrallel computers can't crack it.

So let's say the Borg get the database and figure out how to crew the ship. If they don't try frontal assualt (a dubious assumption) then they can use the SSD to raid the Empires population. Numerous unsheilded planets exist on the periphery of the empire. The firepower of an SSD alone can overwhelm most civillian and even military ships. The important thing for the borg is to catch the important people: the egineers, the historians (a technology jump of this magnitude likely means you need outdated tech to make something that makes current tech), the scientists, the manufacturing workers, etc. Basically follow the Ethopian plan ... if you don't have the tech or the know-how ... import guys who do. Yes this means you are going to have assimilate *many* people to get the needed back knowledge, likely thousands of skilled people and millions of people just to up your odds of getting the skilled buggers.

After you have enough people who do understand how basic imperial technology works and is fabricated, go back to the ST galaxy and begin rapid industrialization. Leonardo might not be able to build a calculator ... but if you give him enough people who do with enough resources ... he might pull it off.

After you industrialize you need to pump out ships with Imperial grade sheilding and as close to parity in weaponry as possible. After that you need only build up a large enough fleet that you outnumber the empire at the local level (and enough to skill any interdictors quick so you can get the hell out of trap fast). After this its just hit, run, and attrition. The borg have nothing to defend, the imps do. With luck the empire eventually fractures and you can start trying to hold territory.

Longshot overall? Hell yes. Better than their chances before? Hell yes.

tharkûn · Post by **tharkûn** » 2002-08-01 08:10pm

bah wrong thread.