Battle of Wolf 359 + Star Destroyer

Mr. B · Post by **Mr. B** » 2002-07-22 01:03am

Heres the setup. The Battle is just about to begin when (insert technobabble) opens and a Star Destroyer enters the area.
This is your average Star Destroyer and has nothing special.

The Federation asks for their help and the Imperials accept.

How does the battle end?

IMO:
The SD wastes the cube. The 200GT HTL pound on the massive cube and the Borg are destroyed before they have a chance to adapt(if at all).

What say you?

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-07-22 01:09am

That's too easy. Big, slow cube shows up. Fed ships loose a volley of phasers and photon torpedoes with no effect. ISD brings heavy guns around to bear, unleashes a BDZ salvo. Cube is blown to sub-micron dust.

It would be interesting to theorize as to what an ISD captain would do at that point. He is now stranded in an alien galaxy, but miraculously enough, he has encountered humans, with whom he will feel an obvious affinity. He has no standing orders and he is cut off from his chain of command and his supply base, so once his supplies run out after a few years, he has no long-term future.

I would imagine that unless the captain is psychotic, he will attempt to set up shop in Federation space as a Federation ally (as opposed to a Federation subject) while researching ways to open up a portal back to the SW galaxy, thus covering all the bases. If he's clever, he might even get the Federation to help him in this effort, since they have no idea what's on the other side.

TheDarkling · Post by **TheDarkling** » 2002-07-22 01:10am

The only thing any ST races have going for them is their ability to use tricky technobabble creatively and the Borg dont even have that.

It would probably take the SD less than a minute to Vape the Cube except for one fact - Picards character shield

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One thing I never understood about endgame was that it took the federation 6 days to gather a 39 ship fleet yet in endgame the feds gather a 20 ship fleet in 10 minutes.

Mr. B · Post by **Mr. B** » 2002-07-22 01:11am

It would make an interesting fanfic.

But what if the Feds turn against the SD after the cube is dust?

TheDarkling · Post by **TheDarkling** » 2002-07-22 01:18am

The imps would have to provoke the Feds because theres no way they would fire on someone who had just saved their hides.

master_yoda · Post by **master_yoda** » 2002-07-22 01:31am

TheDarkling wrote:The imps would have to provoke the Feds because theres no way they would fire on someone who had just saved their hides.

Yes & I belive the feds are smarter than that.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2002-07-22 01:44am

And if they did, they'd be utterly annihilated.

Besides, after they salvo their phasers and photorps against the cube to no effect, and the ISD vapes it in one salvo, how aggressively stupid would they have to be to attack it?

master_yoda · Post by **master_yoda** » 2002-07-22 01:48am

Howedar wrote:And if they did, they'd be utterly annihilated.

Besides, after they salvo their phasers and photorps against the cube to no effect, and the ISD vapes it in one salvo, how aggressively stupid would they have to be to attack it?

my point exactly

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2002-07-22 01:50am

Feddies have been dumb quite a lot, but they're always on the wimpy side of dumb, never the aggressive side of dumb.

master_yoda · Post by **master_yoda** » 2002-07-22 01:53am

Howedar wrote:Feddies have been dumb quite a lot, but they're always on the wimpy side of dumb, never the aggressive side of dumb.

yes & when they see this huge ship easily destroy a cube they'll probably crap their pants.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2002-07-22 01:54am

Oh, perhaps not. The ISD has not shown any hostile intent so far, and has indeed saved the Feddie's asses. They'll probably just treat the ISD like a Q-like demiomnipotent until the captain gives them a reason to fear him

master_yoda · Post by **master_yoda** » 2002-07-22 01:57am

can te="Howedar"]Oh, perhaps not. The ISD has not shown any hostile intent so far, and has indeed saved the Feddie's asses. They'll probably just treat the ISD like a Q-like demiomnipotent until the captain gives them a reason to fear him

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& this's what happens.

DATA:captain our trecknobabble is having no effect! What should we do?

PICARD: Crap our pants Data,thats all that we can do.

Enlightenment · Post by **Enlightenment** » 2002-07-22 02:27am

TheDarkling wrote: One thing I never understood about endgame was that it took the federation 6 days to gather a 39 ship fleet yet in endgame the feds gather a 20 ship fleet in 10 minutes.

IMO all that happened is that Starfleet simply decided to keep more of the fleet closer to home after the first two Borg raids and the war with the Dominion.

TheDarkling · Post by **TheDarkling** » 2002-07-22 02:31am

Enlightenment: You mean that all it took was 2 Borg attacks and the Breen bombing of earth to teach the Feds to protect their homeworld? real quick learners arent they.

LMSx · Post by **LMSx** » 2002-07-22 02:54am

Why *is* the Federation capital on Earth?

master_yoda · Post by **master_yoda** » 2002-07-22 03:09am

LMSx wrote: Why *is* the Federation capital on Earth?

obvious reasons.First place they inhabitated

Enlightenment · Post by **Enlightenment** » 2002-07-22 03:26am

TheDarkling wrote:Enlightenment: You mean that all it took was 2 Borg attacks and the Breen bombing of earth to teach the Feds to protect their homeworld? real quick learners arent they.

Hey, they're dense, but they're not Minbari and there certainly not "we lose to Ewoks" stormies. Given three kicks to the head even the UFP will get the point...

Post by **Vympel** » 2002-07-22 08:43am

Ahhh if only those Ewoks had been Wookies as originally planned. But riddle me this- would the Ewoks and Rebel commandos had won if Chewie hadn't commandeered the AT-ST? Methinks not. Hell, even if they had routed the Imps, without that AT-ST, how would Han have masqueraded as an AT-ST crewman and fooled the imps into opening the back door? Foolish AT-ST crew; just like foolish Devastator gunning officer in ANH. If he had fired- goodbye DS plans.

Soontir C'boath · Post by **Soontir C'boath** » 2002-07-22 09:19am

Vympel wrote:Ahhh if only those Ewoks had been Wookies as originally planned. But riddle me this- would the Ewoks and Rebel commandos had won if Chewie hadn't commandeered the AT-ST? Methinks not. Hell, even if they had routed the Imps, without that AT-ST, how would Han have masqueraded as an AT-ST crewman and fooled the imps into opening the back door? Foolish AT-ST crew; just like foolish Devastator gunning officer in ANH. If he had fired- goodbye DS plans.

At the Battle of Endor there was one AT-AT and 6 ST one was taken by chewie, another was crush by two lumber,another fell, one was blown up, and the other two is left unaccounted, either destroyed or went somewhere.Probably having to do with chasing the retreating Ewoks.

And it's not their fault, ...that the gunners didn't fire on the pod, it had no life signs so it was thought not to waste firepower.

Cyaround,
Jason

Kazuaki Shimazaki · Post by **Kazuaki Shimazaki** » 2002-07-22 10:26am

It might have been a waste of power, but an insignificant one. I feel the man should have made sure. Who knows whether they had somehow modified that escape pod...

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2002-07-22 10:55am

It occours to me the ISD captain is going to be ambitious... Sadly, the Empire seems to prefer ambitious men in their SD's.

Now, if he's bright, he's gonna do this by parlaying the Cube annihilation into local godhood. If necessary, he'll tractor one of the smaller FedShips into his main bay, show the captain his impressive starship.. And jump into Borg territory and BDZ one of their worlds.

Yes, a BDZ is resource-intensive, especially in the turbolaser-supply department. But consider the effects on the Federation Officers that went with the ship: This ship just beat the shit out of several Cubes and deep-fried their most feared enemies world. It's not blasting the Unicomplex, but.

So now what? Try and get your engineers to eck out every resupply out of your cargo bay they can, then start teaching the primitive Feds to spin-seal Tibanna gas, and forge Dura-armour.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2002-07-22 11:03am

To make things tougher for the SD captain, we can always add a perfectly reasonable wrinkle that there is NO tabanna gas or material to make dura armor in the ST galaxy. He would then have to carefully conserve what he has and perhaps not engage in risky DBZ's far from home.

In other words what Voyager SHOULD have been

Doomriser · Post by **Doomriser** » 2002-07-22 11:35am

Mr. B wrote:It would make an interesting fanfic.

But what if the Feds turn against the SD after the cube is dust?

If you're interesting in reading a[n incomplete] but excellent fanfic based on the premise of a lone Star Destroyer in Imperial space, try
http://www.daltonator.net/fanfics/stories/jan_isd.txt

Doomriser · Post by **Doomriser** » 2002-07-22 11:43am

Sorry, I mean to say a "lone ISD in _Federation_ space." It is written by Michael January, the title is "ISD Eliminator," and it takes place TESB era in SW and post Dominion war in ST. It received several
awards in ASVS.

The link once again to the awesome story is:

http://www.daltonator.net/fanfics/stories/jan_isd.txt

Aaron2 · Post by **Aaron2** » 2002-07-22 02:48pm

SirNitram wrote:It occours to me the ISD captain is going to be ambitious... Sadly, the Empire seems to prefer ambitious men in their SD's.

Now, if he's bright, he's gonna do this by parlaying the Cube annihilation into local godhood. If necessary, he'll tractor one of the smaller FedShips into his main bay, show the captain his impressive starship.. And jump into Borg territory and BDZ one of their worlds.

If it were me, I'd send a message to the Klingons, Romulans, and Ferengi and auction off Federation territory to the highest bidder.

Aaron