Which is the most dangerous Chaos God in WH40K?

The Grim Squeaker · Post by **The Grim Squeaker** » 2005-06-07 12:36pm

Probably worse,
their empire was turned inte the eye of chaos and there arent any Eldar left there.

Lord Zentei · Post by **Lord Zentei** » 2005-06-07 01:15pm

Xenophobe3691 wrote:Well, talking about Slaanesh, when Eldar die, do they just get absorbed into Slaanesh? Sort of like a Borg Drone, a mindless cell in a much greater whole? Or is it much worse than that?

Pretty much, hence their reliance on waystones: the waystone absorbs the soul of an Eldar when it dies, becoming a spiritstone. These are kept in the infinity cirquit of the craftworlds. Also, they are used to power the Wraithguard, as well as Eldar technology and psychic powers sometimes.

Imperial Overlord · Post by **Imperial Overlord** » 2005-06-07 01:58pm

Remember, when Slaanesh awakened most of the Eldar in what was to be the Eye of Terror were corrupt and essentially Slaanesh worshipers. That wasn't the case when the other three awakened.

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2005-06-07 02:21pm

Lord Zentei wrote: Pretty much, hence their reliance on waystones: the waystone absorbs the soul of an Eldar when it dies, becoming a spiritstone. These are kept in the infinity cirquit of the craftworlds. Also, they are used to power the Wraithguard, as well as Eldar technology and psychic powers sometimes.

Alright, thank you very much, I was just really confused about that all. I guess the Eldar must really hate being part of the God of Decadent Pleasure

Falkenhayn · Post by **Falkenhayn** » 2005-06-07 10:03pm

weemadando wrote:Awakening, not creation... And where does that tit-bit of info come from?

Yeah...what do you mean? Sure, Tzeentch existed in relation to the Emperor the same way an infant does in relation to a professional 30 something. He's around, sure, but he hasn't matured to the point where he is a serious threat.

Crom · Post by **Crom** » 2005-06-07 10:10pm

Lord Zentei wrote:True enough, I never claimed that the corruption of Orks by Chaos was nearly as common as that of, say, humans. Just that it wasn't an impossible scenario contrary to what was previously beleived.

Anyway my original point wasn't as much that Orks are corruptible, as that you don't need to wipe out the Orks in order to destroy Gork and Mork...

Don't Orks attack other Orks who are being un-Orky? Specifically don't Orks possess some kind of latent ability to detect corrupted Orks?

The Grim Squeaker · Post by **The Grim Squeaker** » 2005-06-08 12:31am

I thought Orkz wud attack any ob da boyz who aint doing good fightin, Andz a mutie like a Humie!

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2005-06-08 12:32am

the .303 bookworm wrote:I thought Orkz wud attack any ob da boyz who aint doing good fightin, Andz a mutie like a Humie!

Nah, da Boyz attack whuteva dey see! Boyz loves fightin'!

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2005-06-08 03:26pm

I finally found the quote from the Titan book on an Ork god awakening. I was wrong, but felt I should at least post it so people knew what I was on about.

Gork struggled towards awareness. After centuries of dormancy it was a long process. He sense other powers in the warp trying to interfere. He blocked a subtle tendril from Slaanesh, ignored a baleful warning from the Emperor, discounted the triumphant cry of Khorne. He reached out with out with [sic] his millennia-old mind and gathered the strength of his people. Soon he would be awake and active. A body of steel had been prepared for him. A time of blood and iron was approaching.

It is interesting, however, that the three mentioned couldn't keep him down, since they're supposed to be rather potent.

Lancer · Post by **Lancer** » 2005-06-08 03:31pm

The Emperor is only stated in your quote as warning Gork (nothing at all about trying to keep him down), and Khorne is probably happy that Gork awakened (hence the triumphant cry).

The Grim Squeaker · Post by **The Grim Squeaker** » 2005-06-08 03:32pm

Waaghin Big boyz be biggey dan any weeny Cioz fobz

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2005-06-08 03:33pm

Matt Huang wrote:The Emperor is only stated in your quote as warning Gork (nothing at all about trying to keep him down), and Khorne is probably happy that Gork awakened (hence the triumphant cry).

That's a mildly disturbing mental image...

'GOD DAMN KIDS! GET OFF MY LAWN!' - God Emperor Of Mankind.

'Dude, you gotta get the gear, we're gonna have a kegger at Khaine's, it's gonna be awesome...' - Khorne The Blood God.

Lancer · Post by **Lancer** » 2005-06-08 03:35pm

that might actually be a fitting analogy.

Currald · Post by **Currald** » 2005-06-08 09:21pm

My impression was always that Orks were no more or less corruptible than humans. The game universe has always been very human-centered. Chaos is a threat... to humanity. So we depict corrupted Chaos Marines. The genestealers infiltrate... human society, so we see lots of human-genestealer hybrid miniatures.

However...

Even going back to Rogue Trader days, there have been corrupt Orks:
Genestealer/Ork hybrids.
Khornate Orks.
Blood Axes and Stormboyz (corrupted by Humie Kultur!).

These ideas were rarely developed in detail (though Blood Axes and Stormboys got decent coverage) but where mentioned in passing, with a few miniatures made here and there.

Crom · Post by **Crom** » 2005-06-08 10:36pm

SirNitram wrote:That's a mildly disturbing mental image...

'GOD DAMN KIDS! GET OFF MY LAWN!' - God Emperor Of Mankind.

'Dude, you gotta get the gear, we're gonna have a kegger at Khaine's, it's gonna be awesome...' - Khorne The Blood God.

That's interesting. Why would the God Emperor, a xenophobe as far as I can tell, be motivated to warn another warp being of danger?

Tasoth · Post by **Tasoth** » 2005-06-08 11:19pm

IIRC, the God Emperor wasn't a xenophobe, he was just kicking the ass out of every alien race that moved in on human settled worlds and did what they wanted with them when the Age of Strife hit.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2005-06-08 11:29pm

Crom wrote:
SirNitram wrote:That's a mildly disturbing mental image...

'GOD DAMN KIDS! GET OFF MY LAWN!' - God Emperor Of Mankind.

'Dude, you gotta get the gear, we're gonna have a kegger at Khaine's, it's gonna be awesome...' - Khorne The Blood God.
That's interesting. Why would the God Emperor, a xenophobe as far as I can tell, be motivated to warn another warp being of danger?

The Emperor was fine with Xenos, providing said Xenos were nice and fluffy and kitten-loving towards humans. You step a millimeter out of line, though, and he'll find you. And he'll cut you.

He likely was bellowing a threat at the Ork God to stay away from the Imperium.

StimNeuro · Post by **StimNeuro** » 2005-06-09 12:06am

So what's the difference between Gork and Mork? And how do they exist as seperate entities if they both feed off of the Orks? Does Mork feed from the WeirdBoz, TekBoyz, MekBoys, etc. while Gork feeds from the regular ones?

Brother-Captain Gaius · Post by **Brother-Captain Gaius** » 2005-06-09 12:09am

StimNeuro wrote:So what's the difference between Gork and Mork? And how do they exist as seperate entities if they both feed off of the Orks? Does Mork feed from the WeirdBoz, TekBoyz, MekBoys, etc. while Gork feeds from the regular ones?

One is the god of strength, violence, etc., the other is the god of cunning. All Orks are strong and violent. All Orks are cunning (at least to some degree).