BSG: "The Hand of God"

Bug-Eyed Earl · Post by **Bug-Eyed Earl** » 2005-03-14 04:24pm

"Excuse" sounds too negative. I should have said reasoning. Anyway, I can relate to that.

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2005-03-14 04:29pm

Cpl Kendall wrote:
StarshipTitanic wrote:
Meanwhile, the Galactica is getting pounded by the defensive weapons. Better to lose a few Viper pilots than a few hundred crewmembers.
The Galactica has a very capable point defense system that has proven that it can knock down Cylon missiles. And the mine only seemed to be protected by small anti-aircraft missiles, not weapons that can threaten a capital ship.

The ship itself isn't in danger, but the turrets would be exposed. If the Cylon base coordinated their fire, they could damage the Galactica's only defense against capital ships. Too much of a risk to accomplish something they did with a loss of five Vipers.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » 2005-03-14 04:33pm

StarshipTitanic wrote: The ship itself isn't in danger, but the turrets would be exposed. If the Cylon base coordinated their fire, they could damage the Galactica's only defense against capital ships. Too much of a risk to accomplish something they did with a loss of five Vipers.

Are talking about knocking out the PD turrets, or the main batteries? Because the Galactica has in excess of 386 PD turrets, while only having 24 main guns.

Irregardless, using the Vipers seems to be a better choice. Considering that Galactica had the entire senior leadership on board, and the mine might have had nukes that we never saw, as well the massive number of Raiders could have nukes as well.

The only problem is that they lost 5 Vipers, which they can't replace.

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2005-03-14 04:34pm

Cpl Kendall wrote:
Are talking about knocking out the PD turrets, or the main batteries? Because the Galactica has in excess of 386 PD turrets, while only having 24 main guns.

The only problem is that they lost 5 Vipers, which they can't replace.

The large batteries.

The loss of the Vipers is unfortunate, but they don't have enough to adequately beat back a Cylon attack, anyway. Best to use them on missions they can win.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » 2005-03-14 04:41pm

StarshipTitanic wrote:
The large batteries.

Not knowing enough about Cylon targeting I couldn't say whether they could knock them out or not.

The loss of the Vipers is unfortunate, but they don't have enough to adequately beat back a Cylon attack, anyway. Best to use them on missions they can win.

Agreed. At the moment their best defense is to stay ahead of the Cylons and run away when it gets too hot.

Predator · Post by **Predator** » 2005-03-14 05:06pm

I'm hoping that the new series will do something vaguely similar to the episode "The Living Legend", that they'll come across a lost old Battlestar, and that they'll and gain a bunch of replacement Vipers amongst other parts from it.

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2005-03-14 05:08pm

Predator wrote:I'm hoping that the new series will do something vaguely similar to the episode "The Living Legend", that they'll come across a lost old Battlestar, and that they'll and gain a bunch of replacement Vipers amongst other parts from it.

As is the sentiment of many others, including me. I am wary of the potental cop-out nature of such an event, though. Their raid on the Tylium facility gave them enough fuel for "years," so we probably won't see a fuel problem ever again.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2005-03-14 06:02pm

Cpl Kendall wrote:
I'm hoping to see the Pegasus, which should reienforce the Vipers as well as add another capital ship to the fleet. Even if she goes out in a blaze of glory like in TOS BSG, they'll be able to easily triple their Viper numbers.

That's my hope. I would have hoped for it in the first season, but it looks like I have to wait. But it is a good way to up their Viper/Pilot count and introduce a couple new characters.

Let's face it, suddenly finding a loved one/some one special in the rag tag fleet will get old quick. Enter Cain and the Pegesus.

Post by **Broomstick** » 2005-03-14 07:51pm

HemlockGrey wrote:Is this the one with the weird Scottish-style music?

Actually, those were uillean bagpipes, which are Irish.

Of course, the Irish and Scottish are related, though none of them seem to want to admit it.

Agent Fisher · Post by **Agent Fisher** » 2005-03-14 11:55pm

Just watched it again. And I really want to know what that song was they were playing when Lee climbed out of his Viper. It really fit.

Agent Fisher · Post by **Agent Fisher** » 2005-03-15 01:07am

I found it! I found the music!

Click on the Battlestar Galactica link, and then click on Wander My friends.

Predator · Post by **Predator** » 2005-03-15 01:40am

You beauty! Excellent, thanks for the find.

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2005-03-15 09:37am

Finally saw the entire episode! Whoo!

I liked it, the battle scenes were almost flawless and the interaction between Baltar/Rosiland and Adama/Starbuck was excellent when the realy plan was put into action.

Can't wait till next week.

Agent Fisher · Post by **Agent Fisher** » 2005-03-15 10:03am

Predator wrote:You beauty! Excellent, thanks for the find.

Your welcome.

John Chris · Post by **John Chris** » 2005-03-16 07:06am

Damn, when Adama went through the tunnel, I was thinking: where the hell is Darth Vader? We have a Trench Run situation here!

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2005-03-16 07:20am

I did not like the Celtic music. It didn't fit at all. Adama's not a very Irish name, for one thing; and for another, it didn't seem to fit with the theme of the show. Here we have this lost civilization, making a Biblical pilgrimage to a promised land, replete with references to ancient Greek and classical civilizations, and the instrument with which we choose to portray them in their hour of triumph is...bagpipes?

Agent Fisher · Post by **Agent Fisher** » 2005-03-16 09:56am

HemlockGrey wrote:I did not like the Celtic music. It didn't fit at all. Adama's not a very Irish name, for one thing; and for another, it didn't seem to fit with the theme of the show. Here we have this lost civilization, making a Biblical pilgrimage to a promised land, replete with references to ancient Greek and classical civilizations, and the instrument with which we choose to portray them in their hour of triumph is...bagpipes?

Well, I think that it fit very well.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2005-03-16 10:26am

HemlockGrey wrote:I did not like the Celtic music. It didn't fit at all. Adama's not a very Irish name, for one thing; and for another, it didn't seem to fit with the theme of the show. Here we have this lost civilization, making a Biblical pilgrimage to a promised land, replete with references to ancient Greek and classical civilizations, and the instrument with which we choose to portray them in their hour of triumph is...bagpipes?

I found it fitting in that this culture is supposed to touch on all ancient human cultures and the bag pipes are part of that ancient human culture in the Celtic sense - I know that ancient celts probably didn't have bagpipes but that music makes you connect with that particular branch of humanity. Most of the rest of the music, particulalrly the miniseries for me reminds me more of an ancient mesopotamia or Middle Eastern theme, I do believe the lyrics are in sanskrit or some other ancient language for some of the songs. Its a nice melting pot of different themes and cultural touch stones.

I guess what I'm trying to say is I liked it.

Post by **Broomstick** » 2005-03-16 07:46pm

Stravo wrote:I found it fitting in that this culture is supposed to touch on all ancient human cultures and the bag pipes are part of that ancient human culture in the Celtic sense - I know that ancient celts probably didn't have bagpipes but that music makes you connect with that particular branch of humanity.

Bagpipes are actually mentioned in the Old Testament of the Bible, so they go back quite a ways. The Ancient Romans had them, and the Greeks would surely have been famillar with them. I have personally heard live Spanish, Polish, and French bagpipes in addition to the more commonly known varieties of the British Isles. There's no reason the anicent Celts wouldn't have had them, too.