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What about this one, thier lightsabre can't be in more than one place at the same time as several pellets would hit them at the same time.
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I'm guessing the Jedi could stop them all at once with telekinesis. Just a thought.
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Also, if the Jedi has his reflexes amped enough he could sweep the lightsaber across the pellet spread repeatedly. Telekinesis would most likely be easier though.
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Go to a local machine shop. Bring a box. Load it up with enough metal to make a battle-droid torso with chest armour at least 2" thick. Grab a couple of electrical motors and batteries and put them in the box too. Grab some thick-walled steel tubing, enough for legs and arms. Now, try to lift the box.

The ability to easily throw battledroids around like rag dolls is easily enough to stop a shotgun blast. But then again, a Jedi would be just as likely to leap into the air at precisely the right time, thus avoiding the blast and landing behind the attacker.
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Darth Wong wrote:Go to a local machine shop. Bring a box. Load it up with enough metal to make a battle-droid torso with chest armour at least 2" thick. Grab a couple of electrical motors and batteries and put them in the box too. Grab some thick-walled steel tubing, enough for legs and arms. Now, try to lift the box.

The ability to easily throw battledroids around like rag dolls is easily enough to stop a shotgun blast. But then again, a Jedi would be just as likely to leap into the air at precisely the right time, thus avoiding the blast and landing behind the attacker.
Problem is that it is often stated that while a jedi can easily move large objects, the fine control needed for small objects is difficult to develop and usually only found in Jedi Masters and powerful knights.

Easier solution is just create a force wall and bleed off the KE.
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Ender wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:Go to a local machine shop. Bring a box. Load it up with enough metal to make a battle-droid torso with chest armour at least 2" thick. Grab a couple of electrical motors and batteries and put them in the box too. Grab some thick-walled steel tubing, enough for legs and arms. Now, try to lift the box.

The ability to easily throw battledroids around like rag dolls is easily enough to stop a shotgun blast. But then again, a Jedi would be just as likely to leap into the air at precisely the right time, thus avoiding the blast and landing behind the attacker.
Problem is that it is often stated that while a jedi can easily move large objects, the fine control needed for small objects is difficult to develop and usually only found in Jedi Masters and powerful knights.

Easier solution is just create a force wall and bleed off the KE.
That is almost the same solution
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I think the only way to get a jedi with modern weapons , is explosives, like hand grenades,

or microwave tech, to cook his organs
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Omega-13 wrote:I think the only way to get a jedi with modern weapons , is explosives, like hand grenades,

or microwave tech, to cook his organs
If the Jedi doesn't simply cause the grenade to land at your own feet
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Jedi can be overwhelmed by large numbers. You could probably kill them with explosives, or by surprise, but poisons seem to be largely ineffective.
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Master of Ossus wrote:
You could probably kill them with explosives, or by surprise,
How do you surprise someone who can see things befor they happen?
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Master of Ossus wrote:Jedi can be overwhelmed by large numbers. You could probably kill them with explosives, or by surprise, but poisons seem to be largely ineffective.
Largely due to the fact that Jedi can purge the poison from their systems as soon as it enters. If the Jedi is already weakened, though, poison can be deadly.
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The Best Jedi Killing Method Remains Orbital Bombardment :twisted:

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Slugthrowers are not unknown to the SW universe. They are just "ancient weapons". And I personally would let them bounce off my Force shield. There is no Force wall, afaik. What you may perceive as a wall is just the special effects for the tk push, which would work.
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KhyronTheBackstabber wrote:Master of Ossus wrote:
You could probably kill them with explosives, or by surprise,
How do you surprise someone who can see things befor they happen?
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I agree with Bean...Orbital bombardment is the way to go...no fuss and no Jedi trying to turn your bolts against ya.
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Ghost Rider wrote:I agree with Bean...Orbital bombardment is the way to go...no fuss and no Jedi trying to turn your bolts against ya.
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KhyronTheBackstabber wrote:Master of Ossus wrote:
You could probably kill them with explosives, or by surprise,
How do you surprise someone who can see things befor they happen?
They obviously didn't see themselves fighting all the battledroids. starwars.com (yeah yeah, I know) says they weren't prepared to fight the droids, just the Geonosians. So they obviously can be led into traps. And Jedi do die.

I think Lucas has been setting up for us that Jedi are simply normal people with some extraordinary skills. I mean, QUi-Gon says in TPM that Jedi can die. We see a buttlaod die in AotC. They aren't superheroes. GL said hismelf he modeled them after Marchalls of the Old West, along with Samurai. Those kinds of people, whiel good, were still only human. And still died.

Which is the way I always thoguht. I saw a pic once of a Jedi surrounded by like 4 stormtroopers, and I thought "Shit, he's in trouble". Then I find the internet, and see people touting "Jedi vs. 20000 people".

Jedi are just normal people. They can and do die.
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Aside from that moron :)

Oi...I forget dumbasss did have them do that...okay screw orbital bombardment use the Sun crusher torpedos and destroy the system...wait he'll say the Jedi can prevent the sun from going nova or the the catch the Torpedo...

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Ender wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:Go to a local machine shop. Bring a box. Load it up with enough metal to make a battle-droid torso with chest armour at least 2" thick. Grab a couple of electrical motors and batteries and put them in the box too. Grab some thick-walled steel tubing, enough for legs and arms. Now, try to lift the box.

The ability to easily throw battledroids around like rag dolls is easily enough to stop a shotgun blast. But then again, a Jedi would be just as likely to leap into the air at precisely the right time, thus avoiding the blast and landing behind the attacker.
Problem is that it is often stated that while a jedi can easily move large objects, the fine control needed for small objects is difficult to develop and usually only found in Jedi Masters and powerful knights.

Easier solution is just create a force wall and bleed off the KE.
Actually I think its implied that they throw a "wall" of telekenesis that deflects anything in its path away. This is indicated by how repetatively, Obi-Wan shrugs away multiple droids simultaneously, and my ability to telekenetically throw away rockets in Jedi Outcast. :wink:

Sure it takes fine control to pick up three pens in different places in a room and make them follow each other in a pattern in mid-air, but that's different.
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Ender wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:Go to a local machine shop. Bring a box. Load it up with enough metal to make a battle-droid torso with chest armour at least 2" thick. Grab a couple of electrical motors and batteries and put them in the box too. Grab some thick-walled steel tubing, enough for legs and arms. Now, try to lift the box.

The ability to easily throw battledroids around like rag dolls is easily enough to stop a shotgun blast. But then again, a Jedi would be just as likely to leap into the air at precisely the right time, thus avoiding the blast and landing behind the attacker.
Problem is that it is often stated that while a jedi can easily move large objects, the fine control needed for small objects is difficult to develop and usually only found in Jedi Masters and powerful knights.

Easier solution is just create a force wall and bleed off the KE.
Actually I think its implied that they throw a "wall" of telekenesis that deflects anything in its path away. This is indicated by how repetatively, Obi-Wan shrugs away multiple droids simultaneously, and my ability to telekenetically throw away rockets in Jedi Outcast. :wink:

Sure it takes fine control to pick up three pens in different places in a room and make them follow each other in a pattern in mid-air, but that's different.
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Dammit.
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pecker wrote:They obviously didn't see themselves fighting all the battledroids. starwars.com (yeah yeah, I know) says they weren't prepared to fight the droids, just the Geonosians. So they obviously can be led into traps. And Jedi do die.

I think Lucas has been setting up for us that Jedi are simply normal people with some extraordinary skills. I mean, QUi-Gon says in TPM that Jedi can die. We see a buttlaod die in AotC. They aren't superheroes. GL said hismelf he modeled them after Marchalls of the Old West, along with Samurai. Those kinds of people, whiel good, were still only human. And still died.

Which is the way I always thoguht. I saw a pic once of a Jedi surrounded by like 4 stormtroopers, and I thought "Shit, he's in trouble". Then I find the internet, and see people touting "Jedi vs. 20000 people".

Jedi are just normal people. They can and do die.
I think you're dragging down a good bit to far here.
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The Jedi are still superpowered and incredibly skilled people. However, they seemed to have developed a superiority complex and their hubris will get them killed. Such as how many did die in AOTC.

On the other hand, a "special" warrior type that is more akin to the normal people, just with special skills category, would be the Rangers from B5. They are completely normal, except they are probably better at hand to hand, and probably have better ships than many others. They, however, do not stand up to Jedi in battle.
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His Divine Shadow wrote:I think you're dragging down a good bit to far here.In one of the deleted scenes Mace says something about being outnumbered it was something like "I don't think so, every Jedi has to be worth alteast a 100 geonosians"
HDS, I may be wrong, but I think that was in response to Dooku telling Mace he was surrounded and outnumbered and he says something along the lines of "I don't think so. Geonosians aren't warriors. A Jedi must be worth at least 100 Geonosians." Or something like that. It wasn't during/after the droid attack on the Jedi in the arena.
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Ghost Rider wrote:I agree with Bean...Orbital bombardment is the way to go...no fuss and no Jedi trying to turn your bolts against ya.
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