The Empire's Best Use for ST ships?
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The Empire's Best Use for ST ships?
From my own thread of ST's best bet against the Empire; what use could the Empire find for captured ST ships?
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Disarm them, stabilize the warp core (better scrap it and get an hyperdrive on) so it doesn't blow up when someone sneezes, and use them as luxury/entertainment ships.
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Isn't that what a 21st century guy thought the Enterprise-D was?Hendrake wrote:Disarm them, stabilize the warp core (better scrap it and get an hyperdrive on) so it doesn't blow up when someone sneezes, and use them as luxury/entertainment ships.
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Refitting them is obviousl yout of the question. And making them luxury cruisers presents its own problems,as the computer will no dobt be talked into self-destruct by use of clever questions and bizzare behavoir. Target Practice is a suitable role for them, whats left can be scrapped (ie cupholders from the E-D could be usefull
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System upgrades are simply out of the question, since you would have to replace virtually the whole ship. There's a point where it becomes more expensive to refit something than to simply scrap it and build from scratch.
Having said that, I think that Federation vessels would make excellent in-system craft. Remove the warp core and warp nacelles for safety purposes, and then run it on fusion reactors and impulse drive.
It will be limited to sublight, so it will only be good for in-system travel. So use them as short-haul luxury cruise liners, like the oversized yachts that offer same-day cruises around Lake Ontario or Lake Michigan.
GCS saucer sections could be used as orbiting hotels. Just detach one from its primary hull (which is turned into one of those short-haul cruisers) and then put it into low orbit around a planet, with its thrusters devoted to attitude adjustment. Visitors get a spectacular view of the planet, all of the amenities, and an historic glimpse into the lifestyle of the Federation's pampered military elite.
Having said that, I think that Federation vessels would make excellent in-system craft. Remove the warp core and warp nacelles for safety purposes, and then run it on fusion reactors and impulse drive.
It will be limited to sublight, so it will only be good for in-system travel. So use them as short-haul luxury cruise liners, like the oversized yachts that offer same-day cruises around Lake Ontario or Lake Michigan.
GCS saucer sections could be used as orbiting hotels. Just detach one from its primary hull (which is turned into one of those short-haul cruisers) and then put it into low orbit around a planet, with its thrusters devoted to attitude adjustment. Visitors get a spectacular view of the planet, all of the amenities, and an historic glimpse into the lifestyle of the Federation's pampered military elite.
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and trekkies wonder why we somtimes call their ship luxury liners
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Other. They could concievably be modified so that there fully automatic, brought into engagements via Star Destroyer, and used as cannon fodder.

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Hmm Susicde Ramming ship's Yoshi I belive your onto somthing there, If you striped the weapons ran it by Droid Crew and use where the personel quaters where as additonal space for SW shielding then you could have a perfect flying bomb, Why waste money on faster Hyperdrive or weapons when you already have a pretty good nail bomb so to speak
The Warp Core is quite twicty and has a pretty good BANG when it goes bang, Why not use them as Sucide Ram ships?
(After all I don't think you even need a triger just a Droid will a little Ball-Pen Hammer standing next to the warp core just before they hit he taps it to start the arming sequance
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The Warp Core is quite twicty and has a pretty good BANG when it goes bang, Why not use them as Sucide Ram ships?
(After all I don't think you even need a triger just a Droid will a little Ball-Pen Hammer standing next to the warp core just before they hit he taps it to start the arming sequance
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Even without the ticking time bombs (also known as warp cores) Starfleet vessels are certainly not safe enough for _civilian_ use! I would not put civilians in a cruise liner that has such a weak hull that it needs a SIF to hold together. I would not put civilians in a cruise liner that could be hijacked by an old transport that has one laser or ion cannon.
What the ships would be useful for is an automated garbage scow. The garbage is in no hurry and no-one is going to attack it.
What the ships would be useful for is an automated garbage scow. The garbage is in no hurry and no-one is going to attack it.
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I just noticed something. In Star Trek Generations, when they where evacuating the Star Drive they had to move some childern from it to te saucer. This means that they had cabins with families in the stardrive section. That totally defeats the whole idea of using the saucer as a lifeboat. A frontline warship is no place for children, and putting them in a proximity to the Engine room of the ship makes it even worse.
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cannon fodder. see an enemy ship, throw dr pepper on the warp drive, ramming speed. . .

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Eaxtly Droid Crew, Heaver Shields(So it can get close enough, just use the spaces where the crew quaters where) and a few hundred tons of Nealtron 5(Mentioned in Wedges Gamble as the best Pound for Pound Expolisve out there, and a favorite for Suside Bombers) and you have a decent Ship-killer
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I'm with Mike, but I might conceivably convert them to SW tech as best I could if I were suffering from extreme shortage of hulls.
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just make that warp core more reliable so you get the most effect out of the payloadMr Bean wrote:Eaxtly Droid Crew, Heaver Shields(So it can get close enough, just use the spaces where the crew quaters where) and a few hundred tons of Nealtron 5(Mentioned in Wedges Gamble as the best Pound for Pound Expolisve out there, and a favorite for Suside Bombers) and you have a decent Ship-killer
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Beat me to it.Hendrake wrote:Disarm them, stabilize the warp core (better scrap it and get an hyperdrive on) so it doesn't blow up when someone sneezes, and use them as luxury/entertainment ships.
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To easy, not much practice if only one weapon gets to be fired before the things totaly destroyed.USAF Ace wrote: Two words:
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Because Warp strafing is an undemonstrated ability that is almost certainly impossible..Crossover_Maniac wrote:What about fitting them with hypermatter-based power systems and use the warp drive for warp strafing, only a torpedo that packs more of a punch than the photon torpedos they have now?
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Personally, I think the best use of them would be for technological study and historical relics. Sure the technology is well below SW standards, but it served a good lesson for Imperial Engineers.
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I voted for using the ships in a secondary role. It saves the Empire from having to station tons of ISDs in the milky way. The Fed ships could do the job of protecting individual systems and even forming up small task forces for dealing with pirates, etc. The ISDs can then be used for more vital roles.
By scrapping them you're throwing away a perfectly good fleet that the Federation vassals would pay to maintain. Besides, it keeps the Feds off Imperial ships....
By scrapping them you're throwing away a perfectly good fleet that the Federation vassals would pay to maintain. Besides, it keeps the Feds off Imperial ships....
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At the risk of sounding like an ass kisser;
I think MW has the right idea.
Either scrap em for metals or use them in a socio-political effort to show the newly converted Feddies that money and luxury are nice and that their socialist/communistic culture is not of human origin.
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I think MW has the right idea.
Either scrap em for metals or use them in a socio-political effort to show the newly converted Feddies that money and luxury are nice and that their socialist/communistic culture is not of human origin.
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Are you trying to start a fist fight?paladin wrote:They should be used as garbage haulers...on second thought, they should hauled away as garbage.
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