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Or something, remember that woman who sued two girls giving her cookies?

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,141 ... 67,00.html
Couple take lumps since cookie suit

By Electa Draper
Denver Post Staff Writer

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For Renea and Herb Young, life has been anything but rosy since she successfully sued two Durango teenagers after a late-night cookie drop went sour. The couple have endured a barrage of ridicule and crank calls, with one caller telling them, “You are what’s wrong with society.”

Durango - Herb Young turned the telephone off again Tuesday after it rang at 12:40 a.m.

One recent caller had told him that "you should be found dead in a ditch."

Nine out of 10 calls to his house are from "crackpots," he said, ever since a plate of cookies and a case in La Plata County Small Claims Court turned life upside down.

Since his wife, 49-year-old Wanita "Renea" Young, successfully sued two 18-year-old girls for scaring her with a late-night knock on the back door and a then-anonymous cookie drop on the porch, she and Herb have spent the last two weeks trying to defend themselves. A barrage of crank calls and hate mail and truckloads of strange packages have been aimed at their rural home just south of Durango.

Almost everyone but the magistrate has taken the girls' side in the court conflict over about $900, part of the medical bill for Renea Young's anxiety attack. The case made headlines around the world.

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"Last week the calls were all day, every day, and all night," Herb Young said. "It's slowing down."

He estimated that one-third of the calls to his home have been from the area, but two-thirds are from all over the country.

Many strangers have made their own cookie deliveries to the Youngs, everything from elaborately wrapped and expensively stocked gift baskets to an envelope holding Oreo crumbs.

Nationally syndicated radio talk-show host Michael Gallagher sent 1,000 boxes of Girl Scout cookies to U.S. troops abroad in honor of the "Colorado Cookie Caper" and the two girls who were sued, Taylor Ostergaard and Lindsey Zilletti.

On Tuesday, the Youngs' rural mail carrier told Herb Young that she had two small truckfuls of packages for him, but they appeared to be empty boxes.

"Send them back," he said he told her. He wasn't sure how to interpret empty boxes.

"Some people have been almost pleasant and said they were just calling 'to voice my opinion,"' he said. "The flip side is that I've heard every profanity you can imagine. And people threatening to cut me up or beat me up or my wife."

One caller told the Youngs that "you are what's wrong with society."

"All this over cookies," Renea Young said.

She is so devastated, she said, that she hasn't been back to her part-time job as a Wal-Mart cashier.

"Our home is like a funeral parlor," Renea Young said. "They've robbed us of our laughter. My spirit, my soul, is damaged."

She questions whether she can continue as president of the board and director of the Durango Food Bank, a volunteer position she has held for 16 years. The charity, where co-workers say Young is a dedicated and capable leader, gives away 8,000 pounds of food a month to families in need.

"The food bank has been my passion. It would be a real loss to me," Young said. "But I wouldn't want to bring any harm to it."

She said the deluge of criticism has been hard on their 19-year-old daughter, a friend of Taylor Ostergaard's.

Herb Young says his once-bubbly daughter is now frequently in tears.

"I love Taylor," Renea Young says. "She's a super girl. She's been in my house many times. I don't know Lindsey, but I'm sure she's nice too. I never believed the girls meant any harm. It was just a prank."

In spite of this, she said, she sued for good reasons that she doesn't think have been spelled out in the media.

On July 31, between about 9:15 p.m. and 10:45 p.m., eight scattered rural families received surprise plates of homemade cookies with paper hearts that said, "Have a great night, the T and L Club." The Youngs' delivery was just after 10:30 p.m.

Renea Young was alone in her isolated country home with her daughter and ailing elderly mother. Her husband was out of town.

The girls pounded loudly on the back door and didn't answer when Renea Young called out, "Who's there?" Young said she could see only shadowy figures that ran away to a car parked outside the gate.

She was so frightened, she had an anxiety attack but thought it might be a heart attack, she said. When a sheriff's deputy came to the house, he found the cookies and concluded that no crime had been committed. But Young said she still felt ill the next day and went to the hospital.

Young soon figured out who had left the cookies and complained to Taylor's mother, Jill Ostergaard. She said Ostergaard and Lindsey's mother, Martha, offered, "even insisted" on paying almost $900 in medical bills not covered by insurance. But the months dragged on, and the families never sent the money.

"I really tried to settle this out of court four different times," Young says. "I'm not sure where it all went bad."

The Ostergaard and Zilletti families said they first waited to see a bill. Then they asked Young to sign an agreement that, with the roughly $900 paid, she would not make additional claims. Young said she was bothered by that request and the lack of trust she believed it signaled. By Dec. 30, she said, she felt that she had to go to court.

Whether the girls meant harm or not, Young told The Post, they had been responsible for frightening her family and sending her to the emergency room. She offered this analogy:

"I backed into a car in a parking lot. I didn't mean to. But I caused damage, and I had to pay for it."

Young said that if she had it to do over again, she still believes going to court was the right thing to do.

"I don't know how to change. I don't know how to compromise my principles," she said.

The Youngs' recent attempts to tell their side on radio talk shows or national television have been disasters, the couple said. The two girls they sued have been overwhelmed by messages of support. But the Youngs said they have been attacked in interviews.

The Ostergaard and Zilletti families have said they feel bad that the Youngs have been harassed.

"We hope people will stop," Jill Ostergaard said.

Taylor's father, Dick Ostergaard, was scheduled to appear in court today over a restraining order he filed Feb. 4 against Herb Young for allegedly making harassing calls to the Ostergaard home.

Then, the families hope, the cookie war will be over.
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"Our home is like a funeral parlor," Renea Young said. "They've robbed us of our laughter. My spirit, my soul, is damaged."
Maybe you shouldn't sue girls who give you presents, then.
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What did they expect when they pulled this crap? :?
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I have no sympathy. None of this would've happened if she hadn't been such a vindictive bitch to begin with- "oh, their apology wasn't sincere, there offer to pay my medical bills wasn't good enough, I think I'll sue". Go get em, crackpots.
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"All this over cookies," Renea Young said.
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Ha! You do stuff that's fucking stupid, you get what you deserve.

And note that she's a part-time Wal-Mart cashier. Clearly we are dealing with a woman possessing a terrific capacity for rational and intelligent thought.
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Someone needs to put a brick against this woman's skull repeatedly.
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Meest wrote:
"All this over cookies," Renea Young said.
You don't say!?
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The stupid bitch deserves all that and more for the rest of eternity - now if only we could spread all this love around to all the other frivolous lawsuits.

As for her complaints - shut the fuck up you selfish, stupid woman.
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The Ostergaard and Zilletti families said they first waited to see a bill. Then they asked Young to sign an agreement that, with the roughly $900 paid, she would not make additional claims. Young said she was bothered by that request and the lack of trust she believed it signaled. By Dec. 30, she said, she felt that she had to go to court.
What the Fuck? Oh they want a bill and an assurence that I won't bring more charges against them, I BETTER SUE!

God help me, she then whines about her principals? What a damn snooty hypocrite bitch. Futhermore it seems that Hubie there has been making harassing calls of his own, I wonder if any of them have ever heard of what's good for the goose is good for the gander?
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Frivolous lawsuit? how the hell is wanting your 900$ back is frivolous lawsuit? For a wal-mart cashier that 900$ is quite a sum i would imagine.

maybe they could have used some other methods to get that money back, but still. After a couple of months when no money is coming despite the promise to pay it, i would have done the same
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Read the damn article. The familes just wanted to see the bill first. I want to know what the fuck the problem is in asking to see the bill you're offering to pay? But noooo, better to sue I guess to produce one little slip of paper!
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They wanted to see the bills for what they where paying first and an insurance they wouldn't have to pay anything else.

Frankly they didn't need to have paid that stupid ass at all, goddamn anxiety attack my ass, fucking rural community and two other people in the house, she'll probably sue the wind next time there's a windy day for making scary noises.
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@frigidmagi: hmm well there is that But still do they deserve that kind of harassment they are recieving? I think not.
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She brought it on herself and she fucked it up for her daughter as well, I have no sympathy.
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hmm well there is that But still do they deserve that kind of harassment they are recieving? I think not.
I honestly don't give a rat's ass. Especially when it seems they're harassing the one of the girls families.
Taylor's father, Dick Ostergaard, was scheduled to appear in court today over a restraining order he filed Feb. 4 against Herb Young for allegedly making harassing calls to the Ostergaard home.
Pot meet Kettle. They brought it completly on themselves and have no one else to blame.
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frigidmagi wrote:
The Ostergaard and Zilletti families said they first waited to see a bill. Then they asked Young to sign an agreement that, with the roughly $900 paid, she would not make additional claims. Young said she was bothered by that request and the lack of trust she believed it signaled. By Dec. 30, she said, she felt that she had to go to court.
What the Fuck? Oh they want a bill and an assurence that I won't bring more charges against them, I BETTER SUE!

God help me, she then whines about her principals? What a damn snooty hypocrite bitch. Futhermore it seems that Hubie there has been making harassing calls of his own, I wonder if any of them have ever heard of what's good for the goose is good for the gander?
What an idiot. ALL such out of court settlements I've ever seen and/or been involved with specically include that the money being offered is FINAL settlement of any claim you may have had and that you will not attempt legal action. That's the whole fucking point. It's not a question of trust, it's common bloody sense. Any lawyer who brokered a deal where his client paid money to the other side but neglected to put a term in the deed of settlement to the above effect would be tossed out on his ass for professional negligence if the other side decided to go to court anyway.
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I don't think she deserves death threats, no matter how satisfying it might be to read about. But if some crank wants to send her 1000 empty cookie boxes, carry on. If only every miserable vindictave bitch got her "just desserts" (get it? cookies? dessert? AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH! I slay me)
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Dad of teen in cookie suit gets order against neighbor

Durango - The father of a Durango-area teenager sued in a case involving cookies left on a neighbor's porch has gone to court to stop the woman's husband from calling him.

Richard Ostergaard got a temporary restraining order against Wanita Young's husband, Herb Young, in county court, claiming he continues to make harassing telephone calls to the Ostergaard residence.

On July 31, Taylor Ostergaard and Lindsey Zellitti decided to skip a dance and, instead, bake cookies for neighbors. They knocked on doors, dropped off the cookies along with heart-shaped wishes that recipients "have a great night," then ran away.

Wanita Young said that when the pair knocked on her door about 10:30 p.m., it frightened her into an anxiety attack. A Durango judge Thursday awarded about $900 to the 49-year-old woman to cover some medical bills incurred when she ended up at the emergency room the next day.

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Wanita Young said, "This has turned into quite a fiasco. It's something that never should have happened, and it's just devastating. My phone hasn't stopped ringing. My life has been threatened, and I'll probably have to move out of town."

The families say the girls' court costs are covered, but people who still want to donate can designate that the money be used for the girls' college funds or for the "Never Forgotten" scholarship fund for Columbine students. The families set up this address for mail and donations: Taylor Ostergaard and Lindsey Zellitti, P.O. Box 2528, Durango, CO 81301
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Faabio wrote:But still do they deserve that kind of harassment they are recieving?
YES THEY DESERVE IT!
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That's fucking ridiculous. From what I can gather, the girls stay up late into the night to bake COOKIES, then leave them on people's DOORSTEPS with a CARD....how...menacing! *brr* gives me the willies just reading about it. :rolleyes:

wait. No it doesn't. I don't see that it's a prank at all, so much as two girls just wanting to do something nice. fuck this chick who is su8ing and fuck her husband, too. assholes.
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Someone posted a very good question on another forum

"If someone anonymously knocking on your door at 10:30 at night gives you a day-long anxiety attack requiring medical attention, why have you not been hospitalized for the fuckton of death threads in the middle of the night, or questionable packages you've receieved in the mail?"
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Here's the nazi viewpoint on it:
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The pair were ordered to pay $871.70 plus $39 in court costs after neighbor Wanita Renea Younglooks like a nigger name[/], 49, filed a lawsuit complaining that the unsolicited cookies, left at her house after the girls knocked on her door, had triggered an anxiety attack that sent her to the hospital the next day.

She's obviously insane, her brain functioning at a non-white level, and the judge behaving perfectly normal for a jew.

Well... that's two more white women who got a first hand taste of how totally fucked up our JEWdicial systems are.


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Now if we had turned on editing as is proper I could have fixed the problems in my post above, like the linking issue.

But NOOOOOOOOOO!
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