hands as lethal weapons

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2004-12-17 02:52pm

for the martial artists out there - is this an urban legend? or do you actually have to register somewhere?

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2004-12-17 02:52pm

Enforcer Talen wrote:for the martial artists out there - is this an urban legend? or do you actually have to register somewhere?

Legend
What exactly are they going to do to you?

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2004-12-17 02:54pm

it's not as though they can disarm you for not having your hands registered.

CmdrWilkens · Post by **CmdrWilkens** » 2004-12-17 02:55pm

Legend, of all things this was a Maxim quetion of the month a couple months ago.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2004-12-17 02:57pm

You don't have to fucking register. Give me a break. I know plenty of martial artists who couldn't do shit in a real fight. I know some wrestlers who are almost 7 feet tall and weigh almost 400 pounds. Don't you think they would have to register?

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2004-12-17 03:01pm

Bullshit legend.

Sorry, I know masters who can easily kill with their hand, but do they need some permit?

No, sorta hard to go "Yeah I can kill with my hards...but there are somethings you have to be doing for me to get the right angle). I mean do we have permits for having knives?

Elheru Aran · Post by **Elheru Aran** » 2004-12-17 03:02pm

Please. You can do worse with a 2x4 in two seconds than you can do with your hands in two minutes. Shall we have to make you get a license when you want to refurbish your fence, for purchasing deadly weapons? *scoffs*

As for the hands thing, pfft. Sure, you can do a lot with them when you're properly trained, but one thing ANY experienced fighter-- and anybody with an ounce of logic-- will say, is that having a weapon, be it a branch snapped off of a tree or a gun, is infinitely better than bare-handed. Rather shows why there's not much need to register hands, eh?

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman · Post by **Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman** » 2004-12-17 03:07pm

I think the day where we must register our HANDS is when they eventually decide to outlawing masturbation.......

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2004-12-17 03:31pm

Complete myth. It's just something wannabe toughguys say to impress people, and soon thereafter they get pounded into the ground and curb stomped.

CmdrWilkens · Post by **CmdrWilkens** » 2004-12-17 04:47pm

Randomn question...this wasn't inspired by my response in the 401 thread was it?

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2004-12-17 05:13pm

Ghost Rider wrote:I mean do we have permits for having knives?

Don't give them ideas.

kheegster · Post by **kheegster** » 2004-12-17 06:21pm

Robert Walper wrote:
Ghost Rider wrote:I mean do we have permits for having knives?
Don't give them ideas.

It's already happening in Britain...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4089283.stm

Knife fears could prompt new law

Public fears over young people carrying knives in school and on the street could prompt new government restrictions, the Home Office says.

Home Secretary David Blunkett and Education Secretary Charles Clarke are considering moves to combat the proliferation of knives.

They include raising the age at which teenagers can buy a knife to 18 and introducing searches in schools.

The age limit would bring knives into line with fireworks and alcohol.

Police searches

The Home Office said there were 272 homicides involving a sharp instrument in 2002/3 out of a total of 1,007 - up 4% on 2001/2.

In November 2003, 14-year-old Luke Walmsley was stabbed to death at the Birkbeck School in North Somercotes, Lincolnshire, by a fellow student.

The government is working with the police to find out the extent of knife crime and strengthen the law.

Mr Blunkett said there was a "strong argument" for having to be 18 to buy a knife.

The education secretary is looking at giving head teachers new powers to search pupils, rather than waiting for police to do so.

He is also considering setting up agreements between heads and police to let them request unannounced police searches in schools to detect and deter knives.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-12-17 06:35pm

Enforcer Talen wrote:for the martial artists out there - is this an urban legend? or do you actually have to register somewhere?

Wasn't there also a legend about black belts being charged with assault with a deadly weapon if they kick some guy's ass?

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2004-12-17 07:17pm

The thing is, anyone can kill with their hands. Those with training can simply do it more efficiently and faster.

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2004-12-17 07:19pm

kheegan wrote:
Robert Walper wrote:
Ghost Rider wrote:I mean do we have permits for having knives?
Don't give them ideas.
It's already happening in Britain...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4089283.stm

Figures. Like I always say: "Take away guns, knives, sticks, stones, even hands, some crazy bastard intent on killing you will try biting you to death."

Petrosjko · Post by **Petrosjko** » 2004-12-17 09:23pm

Robert Walper wrote:Figures. Like I always say: "Take away guns, knives, sticks, stones, even hands, some crazy bastard intent on killing you will try biting you to death."

Which means that teeth will be restricted to only those who can demonstrate they really need them.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2004-12-17 09:39pm

CmdrWilkens wrote:Randomn question...this wasn't inspired by my response in the 401 thread was it?

I dont think so.

CmdrWilkens · Post by **CmdrWilkens** » 2004-12-18 06:01pm

Enforcer Talen wrote:
CmdrWilkens wrote:Randomn question...this wasn't inspired by my response in the 401 thread was it?
I dont think so.

Okay because I posted a response about posting to SD.net not being as bad a goal as trying to register one's hands and then voila fifteen minutes later this thread appeared.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2004-12-18 06:32pm

its possible. I was running a 3 hour online binge by that point

Queeb Salaron · Post by **Queeb Salaron** » 2004-12-19 01:28am

Ghost Rider wrote:I mean do we have permits for having knives?

The city of Boston in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts requires a permit for carrying a blade longer than four inches in length, and forbids the public posession of any blade longer than 18 inches.

At least, I think those are the right numbers.

dragon · Post by **dragon** » 2004-12-19 01:45am

Myth I know plenty of highly trained martial artists and none of them are registered.

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2004-12-19 02:16am

This isn't exactly myth. A cop that used to come into a store I worked at told me that if someone confronts him in a boxing or martial arts pose, he is considered to be faced with lethal force, and is allowed to shoot them.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-12-19 02:53am

Lord Poe wrote:This isn't exactly myth. A cop that used to come into a store I worked at told me that if someone confronts him in a boxing or martial arts pose, he is considered to be faced with lethal force, and is allowed to shoot them.

That sounds almost stupidly arbitrary.

"This shooting is questionable. He didn't have a weapon or anything."
"But sir! He put his left leg back and his fists up! He was clearly a deadly ninja!"
"Oh well that makes it okay then."

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-12-19 03:18am

"Oh sure, it happens. People with enough hand-to-hand combat training need to register their hands as lethal weapons. If we catch them and they failed to do so, we encase their fists in concrete to prevent them from hurting people."

~Random Smartass Cop

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-12-19 03:48am

Kind of reminds me of George Carlin's bit on airport security.

"Hell, you could probably beat a guy to death with the Sunday New York Times! Or what if a guy just has really big hands? Couldn't you strangle a flight attendant? Hell, you could probably get two, one with each hand."

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