Turbolifts and SW...

Post by **NecronLord** » 2007-10-28 05:40pm

I was just looking at someone's RP deckplans for a roughly MF-size light freighter (which, incidentally, are pretty damn cool, hence the link) and wondering why precisely it should require a 'turbo' lift, and it occured to me. Have turbo-lifts actually been mentioned in the SW G-canon (more specifically, the films) and if not, anyone any idea when the term made the leap into SW?

Is this one of the 'cultural influences' Trekkies are always bragging about?

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2007-10-28 06:12pm

Well, there are elevators (seen on the Death Star), but to the best of my knowledge they are never called "turbolifts". The only "cultural influence" would be the trekkie assuming every other Sci-fi franchise just copies Trek.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2007-10-28 06:20pm

I don't think so. SW had turbolasers too, a SW thing seemed to be adding extra words to the front o normal things to make them sound more impressive. Most likely Tarkin has a turbotoilet stashed away in his quarters.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2007-10-28 10:22pm

The Star Wars trilogy, hard back page 122 calls them elevators in the Death Star. It is further explained as:

The computer-controlled transport ought to be capable of taking them just about anywhere on the station in response to a verbal command.

They refer to them as 'elevators' in RotJ as well. When Luke and Vader to to the Emperor. Page 458 of the same book.

Darth Ruinus · Post by **Darth Ruinus** » 2007-10-28 11:12pm

Knife wrote:The Star Wars trilogy, hard back page 122 calls them elevators in the Death Star. It is further explained as:

The computer-controlled transport ought to be capable of taking them just about anywhere on the station in response to a verbal command.
They refer to them as 'elevators' in RotJ as well. When Luke and Vader to to the Emperor. Page 458 of the same book.

Elevator, turbo-lift, lift, all the same thing, just seems like turbo-lift is a more techinical way of saying the same thing.

Just like some guy could say "the ship has 12 heavy turbolasers" or could say "the ship has 12 heavy guns" same thing, different words.

Batman · Post by **Batman** » 2007-10-28 11:14pm

Somebody didn't get the point.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2007-10-28 11:16pm

Darth Ruinus wrote:
Elevator, turbo-lift, lift, all the same thing, just seems like turbo-lift is a more techinical way of saying the same thing.

Just like some guy could say "the ship has 12 heavy turbolasers" or could say "the ship has 12 heavy guns" same thing, different words.

Your right your right. Now if only the OT said something akin to;

Have turbo-lifts actually been mentioned in the SW G-canon (more specifically, the films) and if not, anyone any idea when the term made the leap into SW?

My post would have made more sense....oh wait.

Darth Ruinus · Post by **Darth Ruinus** » 2007-10-28 11:31pm

Batman wrote:Somebody didn't get the point.

Damn, missed that part entirely

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2007-10-28 11:37pm

Further reading into it, AotCs hardback page 240;

...then looked past Jango, to a human form rushing out of the tower's turbolift and toward them through the driving rain.

Then a few pages further on page 247;

..and then opened the door of the service turbolift with a wave of his hand.

In RotS, hardback page 57, first page of chapter three.

The turbolift's door whished open. Anakin pressed himself against the wall, a litter of saber-sliced droid parts around his feet.

Scanning through the whole part of Obi and Anakin aboard the Invisible Hand, they refer to the elevators as 'turbolifts' throughout.

Over all, the OT seems to like 'elevator' while the PT likes 'turbolift'. So I'll take a stab in the dark and say it started as a EU thing.

Darth Ruinus · Post by **Darth Ruinus** » 2007-10-28 11:40pm

Shit, well now if I am correct...

anyone any idea when the term made the leap into SW?

Im not sure but, maybe the term first appeared in Retreat from Coruscant well, thats all I got from Wookiee anyways...

Darth Ruinus · Post by **Darth Ruinus** » 2007-10-28 11:44pm

On an unrelated note, and I am not trying to play mod but, why is this in SW vs ST?

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2007-10-28 11:45pm

Darth Ruinus wrote:On an unrelated note, and I am not trying to play mod but, why is this in SW vs ST?

Probably because the term "turbolift" is used rather frequently in Trek.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2007-10-29 04:50am

Darth Ruinus wrote:On an unrelated note, and I am not trying to play mod but, why is this in SW vs ST?

Mainly because this is the closest I can think of for Trekkies' vaunted 'ST has stunning cultural influence and everyone copies it' manta. It's a funnier topic in SW-v-ST.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2007-10-29 09:41am

I wonder if the Trekkies apply their customary "ultra-literal interpretation of technology names" technique to turbo-lifts, which would mean that they must be pneumatically powered.

Ryan Thunder · Post by **Ryan Thunder** » 2007-10-29 12:10pm

What, they aren't?

harbringer · Post by **harbringer** » 2007-10-30 05:47am

A minor point and please correct me if im wrong on my assumption but if they are pneumatically powered the logical method out be to have a vacuum pull it along while overpressure pushes it? if so they should wear hard suits more often in trek as they always seem to crawl round in uniforms to fix this sort of thing... (or is it just the redshirts that get that job) at least in star wars the storm troopers would be more usefull if this happened (although we know it doesnt as you clearly see what happens in the shaft aboard the cruiser in RTOS)

Dooey Jo · Post by **Dooey Jo** » 2007-10-30 08:04am

Darth Wong wrote:I wonder if the Trekkies apply their customary "ultra-literal interpretation of technology names" technique to turbo-lifts, which would mean that they must be pneumatically powered.

Well the sliding doors sound like they are. Maybe they're called "turbo-doors"...