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A Catered Generation?

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While we are on the subject of how pampered, lazy and unprepared this generation of young people are...


http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editor ... eneration/

A catered generation?
July 20, 2006

AMERICA, take a good look at the freshman class hitting college campuses this fall. According to some who study generational cycles, what we are witnessing is the rise of the next Hero generation. An echo of their World War II-era grandparents, the so-called Millennials, born after 1981, are being hailed as the promise generation, history makers who will define the new century.

There's just one problem: At the moment, this is a generation that lacks the common sense to stay off deadly train tracks or campus rivers when they're icy. A generation that can't seem to make decisions without texting home, and whose helicopter parents -- so named for their hovering ways -- have actually begun negotiating salaries with job recruiters on their kids' behalf.

Faced with the most-chaperoned, play-dated generation in memory, as the Globe's Marcella Bombardieri found, colleges are rolling out increasingly elaborate orientation programs. Having long taken for granted a basic set of life skills, schools are having to spell out such dos and don'ts as Boston University's: Don't try to cross the icy Charles River in winter.

Of course, catering to Millennials also means answering to their parents. A University of South Carolina official tells of a mother asking that her photo appear on her child's student ID card. ``Because anytime there is a problem, I'm going to be dealing with it."

The news isn't all bad. The baby-on-board generation has benefited from a dramatic shift toward child safety and parental nurturing. In response, they are also making some smart decisions: Smoking, suicide, and teen pregnancy and abortion are all down. In their outlook they are the anti-Gen-Xers: They tend to be law-abiders who believe in institutions, whether their family or the government. All in all, it's a relentlessly upbeat crowd, say Neil Howe and William Strauss in their book, ``Millennials Rising: The Next Great Generation."

But it's easy to be optimistic when you've never been allowed to fail, when every kid at a swim meet has to win something, and making children feel good becomes as important as ensuring that they do well. It's easy to have a can-do spirit when you've been insulated from the ordinary risks of childhood. As Howe put it, ``This isn't a generation of kids who went wandering in backyards and empty lots and thought of things to play. All their activity was prepared for them."

And that's the problem: Life is not a supervised activity. If those in this group are to fill their grandparents' shoes, they can't continue to be coddled at an age when their grandparents were fighting wars. D-day didn't come with a handbook. Parents, and colleges for that matter, would do well to do less catering and let their very old kids finally become adults.
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As I said, it is not a secret that education theory has changed dramatically in the last 20 years. It is now considered almost verboten to flunk someone. No matter how much he sucks. This kind of relentless coddling must have some effect on character.

Hell, just look at how upset people get when you tell them they're wrong about something. "Oh no, you're not being respectful!" They honestly expect to be treated respectfully even if they're totally wrong, caught lying through their teeth, etc.
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Thank god my parents actually let me fall at times. They raised me to their best abilities, but they never made it seem like I could do no wrong or that there wasn't room for improvement in what I did. They support me in what I do, and are there for me when I get in way over my head, which doesn't happen much, but I think I'm relatively coddle free.
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I can attest to the damage that this sort of coddling can cause. I spent most of my life thinking that nothing I did mattered, because no matter what someone was either going to make it better or no one would give a shit. I had people making sure that I was absolutely protected from any harm and was never told what they were doing.I was told that school was important, but never told why it was important that I go to a place to sit down and have someone read from a book at me.

Imagine my shock when, after failing most of my classes for three years because "it doesn't matter', I get kicked out by my mother. Two months of being homeless (still going to school because I could get free lunches there) showed me a lot about life. Not enough to show me why school was important though.

After making a complete train-wreck of my life, I can definitely say that people shouldn't try to protect their children from reality like this. Especially not this and then deciding to go 180 on them in one evening.
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There's an old saying about discipline: punishment does not motivate people. Fear of punishment motivates people.

The problem is that you can't generate credible fear of punishment if you are not prepared to actually do it. That's why it's so incredibly stupid to have a "don't let anyone fail" policy in school. Why should people fear an "F" if they know that they'll never get one? They know that someone will step in to save the day, and make sure they get to the next grade along with their peer group. They won't be left behind. They won't have to worry about people snickering "he was held back". Oh no, the teacher will give them a make-up test, or the principal will adjust his grade. Something will happen, because he can't possibly pay the natural price for his own behaviour.
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This sort of thing also devalues the schools in question. If everyone can graduate from this school, without even trying, then what the hell is the point of sending them there? Most schools (or at least those that any frieds or family attended) don't teach much of anything in the class. My 7th grade science teacher didn't think that krypton was an element.

His specialty subject was chemistry.

I had to explain prepositional phrases to one teacher.

She was my sophomore English teacher.

My CompSci instructor? A student had to help him boot up his computer every day, because he "couldn't deal with these damnable contraptions".

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Darth Wong wrote:There's an old saying about discipline: punishment does not motivate people. Fear of punishment motivates people.
My dad embraced this philosophy wholeheartedly. The Tarkin Doctrine is remarkably effective.
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Darth Wong wrote:There's an old saying about discipline: punishment does not motivate people. Fear of punishment motivates people.
I beg to disagree. If fear of punishment could motivate people, prisons across the world would be mostly empty. :)

Back on topic, before 1989 schooling was mandatory in my country. Mandatory, as in police-enforced: they could and did visit parents who didn't send their kids to school. Also, teachers were forbidden to even let students repeat years. Kicking someone out of school was unheard of.

This has changed completely nowadays. Grades can actually cover the whole spectrum, and AFAIK it's possible for kids to drop out. You'd think the newer generations are more responsible, since they know the society won't accept them without an education, and they actually need to work to stay in school.

Well, guess what: they're not. In fact, school as a social environment is running out of control. The only thing kids learn is that all adults are unworthy of respect. I suspect it's by and large the teachers' fault, but the fact remains.

Now, I have a few possible explanations, but my laptop battery is running out. :D Be right back.
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