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Paris Hilton goes to the Greybar Hotel: read it here on MSNBC.
LOS ANGELES - Paris Hilton completed the first night of her probation sentence as morning arrived Monday in her new surroundings — a county jail cell that will be her home for much of this month.

The 26-year-old heiress worked the red carpet at the MTV Movie Awards Sunday afternoon, then traded her strapless designer gown for a jail-issue jumpsuit and a solitary cell.
Paris apparantly showed up early to get a jump start on her sentence; but apparantly made a little boo-boo and reported at the wrong place:
Hilton turned herself in at the Men’s Central Jail in downtown Los Angeles just after 10:30 p.m., then was escorted to the all women’s facility in Lynwood, where she was booked, fingerprinted, photographed, medically screened and issued an orange top and pants, Whitmore said.
That would have been interesting: Paris Hilton accidentally booked into the Men's prison facility; error discovered 48 hours later. "The prisoners all seem happy and content," said Warden Ben Dover, "I'd be happy if she stayed awhile longer, but she passed out around dinnertime Tuesday, and we still had most of C Block left to go. She had this huge grin on her face, too.".
The “Simple Life” star is being housed in the “special needs” unit of the 13-year-old jail, separate from most of its 2,200 inmates. The unit contains 12 two-person cells reserved for police officers, public officials, celebrities and other high-profile inmates. Hilton’s cell has two bunks, a table, a sink, a toilet and a small window. She does not have a cellmate.
"Special Needs"... heheheh.... reminds me of the classroom by the same name in Junior High School.

Like other inmates in that unit, Hilton will take her meals in her cell and will be allowed outside the 12-by-8-foot space for at least an hour each day to shower, watch TV in the day room, participate in outdoor recreation or talk on the telephone. No cell phones or BlackBerrys are permitted in the facility, even for visitors.
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The jail, a two-story concrete building next to train tracks and beneath a bustling freeway, has been an all-female facility since March 2006. It’s located in an industrial area about 12 miles southeast of downtown Los Angeles.

“I did have a choice to go to a pay jail,” Hilton said Sunday, without giving details. “But I declined because I feel like the media portrays me in a way that I’m not and that’s why I wanted to go to county, to show that I can do it and I’m going to be treated like everyone else. I’m going to do the time, I’m going to do it the right way.”
WTF? :shock: "pay jail"?
Sometimes stars are allowed to do their time in a jail of their choosing. In such cases, they pay a daily room-and-board fee to the smaller jails, which afford them more privacy and comfort.

How much do you want to bet that this gets turned into some new reality series? It seems that all sorts of celebrities are "taking one on the chin" and going to jail;, and emerging somehow "cleansed" by the process as they try to spin the experience into gold. Feh!
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This brings up the whole debate on whether or not confinement should be considered a viable form of punishment for criminals. Since when was "serving time" first considered a form of punishment?
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You should have seen Sarah Silverman ridiculing Paris Hilton last night on the MTV Movie Awards. Silverman was trying to set up a joke [paraphrasing]:

"Paris Hilton is going to jail."

<crowd erupts in applause as Hilton looks on with disgust; Silverman is taken by surprise>

"I hear the jail is going to try to make her feel at home. The bars to her cell will be painted to look like penises.I hope she doesn't chip her teeth."

<more shots of Hilton, who looks humiliated>
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Elfdart wrote:You should have seen Sarah Silverman ridiculing Paris Hilton last night on the MTV Movie Awards. Silverman was trying to set up a joke [paraphrasing]:

"Paris Hilton is going to jail."

<crowd erupts in applause as Hilton looks on with disgust; Silverman is taken by surprise>

"I hear the jail is going to try to make her feel at home. The bars to her cell will be painted to look like penises.I hope she doesn't chip her teeth."

<more shots of Hilton, who looks humiliated>
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Hah! Thanks for posting Ein!! That gave me a good laugh :)
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Heh, even the Hollywood celebrities hate her guts. And I was all clueless about the vitriol in the previous Paris Goes To Jail thread. I guess I'm just lucky I don't know more about the wench, eh?
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Elfdart wrote:"I hear the jail is going to try to make her feel at home. The bars to her cell will be painted to look like penises.I hope she doesn't chip her teeth."

<more shots of Hilton, who looks humiliated>
I suppose I could fake sympathy and offer to provide a real one through the bars. :lol:
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Lord Zentei wrote:
Heh, even the Hollywood celebrities hate her guts. And I was all clueless about the vitriol in the previous Paris Goes To Jail thread. I guess I'm just lucky I don't know more about the wench, eh?
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Coyote wrote:WTF? :shock: "pay jail"?
To answer your question:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/29/us/29 ... nted=print
For $82 a Day, Booking a Cell in a 5-Star Jail
By JENNIFER STEINHAUER

SANTA ANA, Calif., April 25 — Anyone convicted of a crime knows a debt to society often must be paid in jail. But a slice of Californians willing to supplement that debt with cash (no personal checks, please) are finding that the time can be almost bearable.

For offenders whose crimes are usually relatively minor (carjackers should not bother) and whose bank accounts remain lofty, a dozen or so city jails across the state offer pay-to-stay upgrades. Theirs are a clean, quiet, if not exactly recherché alternative to the standard county jails, where the walls are bars, the fellow inmates are hardened and privileges are few.

Many of the self-pay jails operate like secret velvet-roped nightclubs of the corrections world. You have to be in the know to even apply for entry, and even if the court approves your sentence there, jail administrators can operate like bouncers, rejecting anyone they wish.

“I am aware that this is considered to be a five-star Hilton,” said Nicole Brockett, 22, who was recently booked into one of the jails, here in Orange County about 30 miles southeast of Los Angeles, and paid $82 a day to complete a 21-day sentence for a drunken driving conviction.

Ms. Brockett, who in her oversize orange T-shirt and flip-flops looked more like a contestant on “The Real World” than an inmate, shopped around for the best accommodations, travelocity.com-style.

“It’s clean here,” she said, perched in a jail day room on the sort of couch found in a hospital emergency room. “It’s safe and everyone here is really nice. I haven’t had a problem with any of the other girls. They give me shampoo.”

For roughly $75 to $127 a day, these convicts — who are known in the self-pay parlance as “clients” — get a small cell behind a regular door, distance of some amplitude from violent offenders and, in some cases, the right to bring an iPod or computer on which to compose a novel, or perhaps a song.

Many of the overnighters are granted work furlough, enabling them to do most of their time on the job, returning to the jail simply to go to bed (often following a strip search, which granted is not so five-star).

The clients usually share a cell, but otherwise mix little with the ordinary nonpaying inmates, who tend to be people arrested and awaiting arraignment, or federal prisoners on trial or awaiting deportation and simply passing through.

The pay-to-stay programs have existed for years, but recently attracted some attention when prosecutors balked at a jail in Fullerton that they said would offer computer and cellphone use to George Jaramillo, a former Orange County assistant sheriff who pleaded no contest to perjury and misuse of public funds, including the unauthorized use of a county helicopter. Mr. Jaramillo was booked into the self-pay program in Montebello, near Los Angeles, instead.

“We certainly didn’t envision a jail with cellphone and laptop capabilities where his family could bring him three hot meals,” said Susan Kang Schroeder, the public affairs counsel for the Orange County district attorney. “We felt that the use of the computer was part of the instrumentality of his crime, and that is another reason we objected to that.”

A spokesman for the Fullerton jail said cellphones but not laptops were allowed.

While jails in other states may offer pay-to-stay programs, numerous jail experts said they did not know of any.

“I have never run into this,” said Ken Kerle, managing editor of the publication American Jail Association and author of two books on jails. “But the rest of the country doesn’t have Hollywood either. Most of the people who go to jail are economically disadvantaged, often mentally ill, with alcohol and drug problems and are functionally illiterate. They don’t have $80 a day for jail.”

The California prison system, severely overcrowded, teeming with violence and infectious diseases and so dysfunctional that much of it is under court supervision, is one that anyone with the slightest means would most likely pay to avoid.

“The benefits are that you are isolated and you don’t have to expose yourself to the traditional county system,” said Christine Parker, a spokeswoman for CSI, a national provider of jails that runs three in Orange County with pay-to-stay programs. “You can avoid gang issues. You are restricted in terms of the number of people you are encountering and they are a similar persuasion such as you.”

Most of the programs — which offer 10 to 30 beds — stay full enough that marketing is not necessary, though that was not always the case. The Pasadena jail, for instance, tried to create a little buzz for its program when it was started in the early 1990s.

“Our sales pitch at the time was, ‘Bad things happen to good people,’ ” said Janet Givens, a spokeswoman for the Pasadena Police Department. Jail representatives used Rotary Clubs and other such venues as their potential marketplace for “fee-paying inmate workers” who are charged $127 a day (payment upfront required).

“People might have brothers, sisters, cousins, etc., who might have had a lapse in judgment and do not want to go to county jail,” Ms. Givens said.

The typical pay-to-stay client, jail representatives agreed, is a man in his late 30s who has been convicted of driving while intoxicated and sentenced to a month or two in jail.

But there are single-night guests, and those who linger well over a year.

“One individual wanted to do four years here,” said Christina Holland, a correctional manager of the Santa Ana jail.

Inmates in Santa Ana who have been approved for pay to stay by the courts and have coughed up a hefty deposit for their stay, enter the jail through a lobby and not the driveway reserved for the arrival of other prisoners. They are strip searched when they return from work each day because the biggest problem they pose is the smuggling of contraband, generally cigarettes, for nonpaying inmates.

Most of the jailers require the inmates to do chores around the jails, even if they work elsewhere during the day.

“I try real hard to keep them in custody for 12 hours,” Ms. Holland said. “Because I think that’s fair.”

Critics argue that the systems create inherent injustices, offering cleaner, safer alternatives to those who can pay.

“It seems to be to be a little unfair,” said Mike Jackson, the training manager of the National Sheriff’s Association. “Two people come in, have the same offense, and the guy who has money gets to pay to stay and the other doesn’t. The system is supposed to be equitable.”

But cities argue that the paying inmates generate cash, often hundreds of thousands of dollars a year — enabling them to better afford their other taxpayer-financed operations — and are generally easy to deal with.

“We never had a problem with self pay,” said Steve Lechuga, the operations manager for CSI. “I haven’t seen any fights in years. We had a really good success rate with them.”

Stanley Goldman, a professor of criminal law at Loyola Law School in Los Angeles, has recommended the program to former clients.

“The prisoners who are charged with nonviolent crimes and typically have no record are not in the best position to handle themselves in the general county facility,” Professor Goldman said.

Still, no doubt about it, the self-pay jails are not to be confused with Canyon Ranch.

The cells at Santa Ana are roughly the size of a custodial closet, and share its smell and ambience. Most have little more than a pink bottle of jail-issue moisturizer and a book borrowed from the day room. Lockdown can occur for hours at a time, and just feet away other prisoners sit with their faces pressed against cell windows, looking menacing.

Ms. Brockett, who normally works as a bartender in Los Angeles, said the experience was one she never cared to repeat.

“It does look decent,” she said, “but you still feel exactly where you are.”
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Basically, if you got money you can coast through jail with no problem and even work at your job so you don't lose your job. WTF is that?
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jegs2 wrote:This brings up the whole debate on whether or not confinement should be considered a viable form of punishment for criminals. Since when was "serving time" first considered a form of punishment?
The earliest sentences that used imprisoning people "in the tower" as punishment in Poland were given out sometime around the XVIth or XVIIth century, I think. There was usually a fine involved as well, though. At least that's as far as the records that survived go.
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jegs2 wrote:This brings up the whole debate on whether or not confinement should be considered a viable form of punishment for criminals. Since when was "serving time" first considered a form of punishment?
Jail is not just confinement. It's having control over your life forcibly taken away from you. You are told when to eat, when to sleep, when to wake up, when to shower, etc ... Not to mention the people you're surrounded with.
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I missed out on the whole 'Paris should go to jail and not get to buy her way out of it' thread, but I think I will post my thoughts in this one instead;

Honestly, I would have been perfectly happy for her to have paid a million dollar odd fine (even if that is peanuts to her net worth) rather than her going to jail over this*. The primary purpose being; the fucking media circus all of this bullshit is going to turn into. We'll have weekly updates on her situation, her mental health, and how she is making friends. Then at the end we'll get her 'coming out' party. Most certainly a host of interviews with her, she'll describe how she 'grew' and 'changed' and how much she learned.

After all that, we'll get the ghost written book 'My Time ~ The Trials of a Girl in Jail' and if there is a God, then he most certainly hates me and we'll also get 'Dove Behind Bars' the two-part made for T.V. mini-series 'based on actual events' but where the writters/producers/director take considerable creative licence starring Tory Spelling ...

Oh God.

Let the bitch pay a huge fine, and put it behind us already.





*My whole opinion on this matter is based on the fact that she didn't actually hurt anyone while DUI, although I do most certainly understand the dangers of DUI, and I don't wish to make it a 'light' crime by any means. Also needless to say that if she actually did hurt somebody, then all the above would be null and void.
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jegs2 wrote:This brings up the whole debate on whether or not confinement should be considered a viable form of punishment for criminals. Since when was "serving time" first considered a form of punishment?
Jail is not just confinement. It's having control over your life forcibly taken away from you. You are told when to eat, when to sleep, when to wake up, when to shower, etc ... Not to mention the people you're surrounded with.
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ArmorPierce wrote:Basically, if you got money you can coast through jail with no problem and even work at your job so you don't lose your job. WTF is that?
Actually, in other jurisdictions there are a certain number of people on "work release" who stay in jail at night and over the weekends but are permitted to go to work on the outside, so that's not unique to "pay to stay" jails.
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Crown wrote: Honestly, I would have been perfectly happy for her to have paid a million dollar odd fine (even if that is peanuts to her net worth) rather than her going to jail over this*.
I'd prefer both. And a lot more money.
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I'd have been very happy to see her get slapped with oh, say, a five hundred million dollar fine. That's enough to be more than a splash in the bucket. Or alternatively, a court order for the media to stop shoving shit about her down our throats while she's imprisoned.
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ArmorPierce wrote:Basically, if you got money you can coast through jail with no problem and even work at your job so you don't lose your job. WTF is that?
Actually, in other jurisdictions there are a certain number of people on "work release" who stay in jail at night and over the weekends but are permitted to go to work on the outside, so that's not unique to "pay to stay" jails.
The idea behind it being that a one or two or three month abscence etc. from a job is almost sure to get the person fired. So the court allows this when it's deemed that the time they serve is sufficient punishment without having to make the person lose their job over the incident.
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Crown wrote:*My whole opinion on this matter is based on the fact that she didn't actually hurt anyone while DUI, although I do most certainly understand the dangers of DUI, and I don't wish to make it a 'light' crime by any means. Also needless to say that if she actually did hurt somebody, then all the above would be null and void.
Reckless endangerment of other people should be considered a very serious crime. The idea that we have to wait until she actually kills someone before levying harsh penalties on her is totally retarded. People who don't give a shit about other peoples' safety actually cause more deaths than murderous psychopaths in the US every year.
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Darth Wong wrote: Reckless endangerment of other people should be considered a very serious crime. The idea that we have to wait until she actually kills someone before levying harsh penalties on her is totally retarded. People who don't give a shit about other peoples' safety actually cause more deaths than murderous psychopaths in the US every year.
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ArmorPierce wrote:Basically, if you got money you can coast through jail with no problem and even work at your job so you don't lose your job. WTF is that?
Yes, but what kind of employer's going to keep a guy on who they know is doing time for something "minor" (the article's implication, not mine) like a drunk driving offense?
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Yes, but what kind of employer's going to keep a guy on who they know is doing time for something "minor" (the article's implication, not mine) like a drunk driving offense?
I believe it's illegal to fire someone over their criminal history unless they have to be bonded and they've fudged their record check. At least it is in Canada.
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Yes, but what kind of employer's going to keep a guy on who they know is doing time for something "minor" (the article's implication, not mine) like a drunk driving offense?
I believe it's illegal to fire someone over their criminal history unless they have to be bonded and they've fudged their record check. At least it is in Canada.
Most states in the US have "at-will" laws. Which means if an employer finds out that one of their employees has been arrested, they can be let go at the employer's discretion if the employer doesn't like it and can afford to let them go.
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Yes, but part of the at-will stuff means that if the history is disclosed at the time of hiring, it can't be used as a reason for firing without the firing becoming 'without cause', which means the person would qualify for unemployment and suchlike.
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CaptainChewbacca wrote:Yes, but part of the at-will stuff means that if the history is disclosed at the time of hiring, it can't be used as a reason for firing without the firing becoming 'without cause', which means the person would qualify for unemployment and suchlike.
Of course if the crime was committed during the time of their employment, as Tanasinn was suggesting, then it's rather moot.
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