Anger at Pope's Brazil comments
Pope Benedict XVI
The Pope made the comments at a meeting of Latin American bishops
Indigenous leaders in Brazil have reacted angrily to Pope Benedict's comments that their predecessors had willingly converted to Christianity.
One Amazon Indian leader, Jecinaldo Satere Mawe, said the Pope's remarks had been arrogant and disrespectful.
Pope Benedict XVI told Latin American bishops in Brazil that American Indians had been "silently longing" to become Christians 500 years ago.
The Pope has now returned home after his five-day trip to Brazil.
The Vatican has made no further comment.
'Wrong and indefensible'
The BBC's Emilio San Pedro said the Pope had said the Christianisation of the region had not involved an alienation of the pre-Colombian cultures.
Our correspondent said Pope Benedict also made no mention of the violent history that followed or the documented decimation of native cultures in favour of the Christian model Conquistadores and other Europeans colonisers.
He said the comments had even been criticised by the Catholic Church's Indian advocacy group in Brazil, which described the Pope's statement as wrong and indefensible.
So, does he think of the consequences of what he says, or....
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."
So the Native Americans had secretly wanted to become something that they had never heard of? That didn't exist in the New World? What is wrong with these people? Oh, right. Insanity.
Lì ci sono chiese, macerie, moschee e questure, lì frontiere, prezzi inaccessibile e freddure
Lì paludi, minacce, cecchini coi fucili, documenti, file notturne e clandestini
Qui incontri, lotte, passi sincronizzati, colori, capannelli non autorizzati,
Uccelli migratori, reti, informazioni, piazze di Tutti i like pazze di passioni...
...La tranquillità è importante ma la libertà è tutto!
Stas Bush wrote:Secret Christians! All hail Papa Cortez!
Who told the indians: "Oh, and I almost forgot —Domini, Domini, Domini. YOU'RE ALL CATHOLICS NOW."
Guess the reference.
When ballots have fairly and constitutionally decided, there can be no successful appeal back to bullets.
—Abraham Lincoln
People pray so that God won't crush them like bugs.
—Dr. Gregory House
Oil an emergency?! It's about time, Brigadier, that the leaders of this planet of yours realised that to remain dependent upon a mineral slime simply doesn't make sense.
—The Doctor "Terror Of The Zygons" (1975)
The Vortex Empire wrote:So the Native Americans had secretly wanted to become something that they had never heard of? That didn't exist in the New World? What is wrong with these people? Oh, right. Insanity.
Of course they secretly wanted to become Christians, GOD exists everywhere! And that makes the invasions, the lies, the genocide, the cultural destruction ok!
I guess this Pope will be justifying priests molesting children next. If he hasn't already.
"I do not understand why everything in this script must inevitably explode."~Teal'c
The Vortex Empire wrote:So the Native Americans had secretly wanted to become something that they had never heard of? That didn't exist in the New World? What is wrong with these people? Oh, right. Insanity.
Of course they secretly wanted to become Christians, GOD exists everywhere! And that makes the invasions, the lies, the genocide, the cultural destruction ok!
I guess this Pope will be justifying priests molesting children next. If he hasn't already.
"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing bad things, but for good people to do bad things, it takes religion."
He is merely articulating the tenets of his faith. The problem is that no one is allowed to say that Christianity itself is insane, so they wait for someone who is honest enough to say what his Bible tells him to say, and then they call that guy "insane". The Bible tells believers that God puts belief in him into everyone's "heart", remember?
"It's not evil for God to do it. Or for someone to do it at God's command."- Jonathan Boyd on baby-killing
"you guys are fascinated with the use of those "rules of logic" to the extent that you don't really want to discussus anything."- GC
"I do not believe Russian Roulette is a stupid act" - Embracer of Darkness
"Viagra commercials appear to save lives" - tharkûn on US health care.
Mayabird is my girlfriend
Justice League:BotM:MM:SDnet City Watch:Cybertron's Finest "Well then, science is bullshit. "
-revprez, with yet another brilliant rebuttal.
Plekhanov wrote:Were they 'silently hoping' to catch small pox as well or just Christianity?
The smallpox was a test of faith, so they welcomed it with open arms.
"Oh no, oh yeah, tell me how can it be so fair
That we dying younger hiding from the police man over there
Just for breathing in the air they wanna leave me in the chair
Electric shocking body rocking beat streeting me to death"
- A.B. Original, Report to the Mist
"I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately."
- George Carlin
Plekhanov wrote:Were they 'silently hoping' to catch small pox as well or just Christianity?
The smallpox was a test of faith, so they welcomed it with open arms.
No, no, no. The smallpox was Gods way of allowing the pure Christ loving European Ubermenschen to more easily convert the savage, wicked pagans.
Who secretly wanted to be Christians.
This message approved by the sages Anon and Ibid.
Any views expressed herein are my own unless otherwise noted, and very likely wrong.
I shave with Occam's Razor.
What is wrong with these people? Oh, right. Insanity.
This guy can't go anywhere without pissing all over someone's back, can he?
