Hamas To Resume Attacks Against Israel

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2006-06-10 12:44pm

Quick factoid: During the peace following the Oslo Peace accords the Palestinian GDP grew massivly, ending up with plans by Intel to open a center there for some reason or other. Come Intifada 2000, it dropped. Gee, I wonder why.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2006-06-10 01:39pm

Ace Pace wrote:Shep, are you coincidently ignoring the fact this month massive protests occured in the Gaza Strip by thousands of Palestinians demanding peace so they can return to work?

Yeah, so they can have easier access to Israeli cities to blow up buses. Yeah, sure.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » 2006-06-10 01:42pm

MKSheppard wrote:
Yeah, so they can have easier access to Israeli cities to blow up buses. Yeah, sure.

Yes I'm sure that every one of those Palestian protestors was thinking that exact same thing.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2006-06-10 01:45pm

Julhelm wrote:Also, it was Israel who shelled the beach strip killing civilians, which makes Hamas somewhat justified in their inane ramblings.

*Palestinian beachgoers watch as Palestinian terrorists set up rocket launchers on beach*

"Daddy, what are those?"

"Why those are rocket launchers that our glorious Islamic Jihad will use to bomb the perfidious jews to hell, son."

*Rockets are fired*

"Wheee! Look at the smoke and fire, daddy!"

"Yes, son it's very cool."

*Switch to IDF Artillery Command Post*

"Sir, firefinder radar reports rocket launches from Gaza."

"You know the drill."

*Artillery is vectored in onto the launch location*

*Three minutes later*

"Daddy I'm so sca.........*BOOM*"

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2006-06-10 01:45pm

MKSheppard wrote:
Ace Pace wrote:Shep, are you coincidently ignoring the fact this month massive protests occured in the Gaza Strip by thousands of Palestinians demanding peace so they can return to work?
Yeah, so they can have easier access to Israeli cities to blow up buses. Yeah, sure.

Sure, twenty thousand starving arabs, who worked loyally through most of the Intifada, that just want food to feed themselves and their family(or have you missed Hamas and such comandeering food shipments?). Yes SHep, I'm sure EVERY single one of them is a terrorist, ignoring years of service.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2006-06-10 01:54pm

Ace Pace wrote:Yes SHep, I'm sure EVERY single one of them is a terrorist, ignoring years of service.

THen why did they all vote in HAMAS, which they all knew was a terrorist organization built around the simple premise of:

"Jews Bad; KILL ALL THE JEWS!"

It's only right and proper that they're finally having to face the hard reality of their disastrous decisions after getting a free ride for so long from feckless governments and negotiators.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2006-06-10 01:57pm

Why did Bush get voted in, despite everyone knowing what a dumbass he is? /bad analogy.

They made a stupid choice, is it now right for us to shell their asses when they are throwing Hamas out?

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » 2006-06-10 02:10pm

MKSheppard wrote:
THen why did they all vote in HAMAS, which they all knew was a terrorist organization built around the simple premise of:

"Jews Bad; KILL ALL THE JEWS!"

It's only right and proper that they're finally having to face the hard reality of their disastrous decisions after getting a free ride for so long from feckless governments and negotiators.

Because despite Hamas beng a terrorist organsation they did more than the PA to setup schools and hospitals in the Palestianian areas as well as bringing in food and medical aid. The Palestinians were fed up with curruption in the PA and the Fatwah Party and Hamas was basically the only viable alternative for them.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2006-06-10 02:17pm

Another factoid: Those 'schools' are places where the Koran is taught and anti-Israel propaganda is dissimitated. The 'summer camps' the Hamas runs are again, all about attacking Israel.

I belive Shep has a link to some slideshow documenting the brainwashing the kids get.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » 2006-06-10 02:26pm

Ace Pace wrote:Another factoid: Those 'schools' are places where the Koran is taught and anti-Israel propaganda is dissimitated. The 'summer camps' the Hamas runs are again, all about attacking Israel.

I belive Shep has a link to some slideshow documenting the brainwashing the kids get.

Of course they are. But from the view point of a Palestinian when your child is getting no education because the schools have been shut down, what option are you going to choose? No education or a Hamas run school where they preach anti-Israel rhetoric but where your child will get to learn to read? They are literally stuck between a rock and a hard place with no easy choices and the choices they get are covered in shit.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2006-06-10 02:33pm

True, I'm not sure what a solution would be. I just keep thinking back to how well they were advancing in the 90s.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » 2006-06-10 02:43pm

Ace Pace wrote:True, I'm not sure what a solution would be.

Perhaps the proto-civil war between Fatwah and Hamas will erupt into an all out civil war and solve the terror problem for Israel but it will definatly butt fuck the Palestinians even more than they are now.

I just keep thinking back to how well they were advancing in the 90s.

Yes I remember, unfortunatly Arafat and his asshat cronies fucked it all up with their greed.

Post by **Coyote** » 2006-06-10 04:06pm

Actually, when Hamas ran in the election, I believe their platform hardly touched on the destruction of Israel but focused instead on the corruption of Fatah and how the old regime had led them for years and gotten little to show for it. Achmed Q. Palestinian was more interested in jobs and schools, etc.

However, if Hamas now wants to drop that domestic infrastructure stuff and concentrate in wiping out t3h 3\/1|_ J00z then it will be a war and Israel will strike back. Here's the part that's hard to wrestle with--

--As much as I dislike and distrust Hamas, we should have held them to their campaign promises and dealt with them after the election instead of just go "Waaauuggh! Terrorists!" and cut them off, and pressure everyone else to do the same. Then Hamas can either bend over and take it like a bitch in front of their population (not likely in the Middle East) or thay can "do something for the sake of being seen doing something". With few options left, they attack Israel, and re-frame the whole problem into something they can handle easily-- stirring shit in a guerrilla war.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2006-06-10 04:38pm

Cpl Kendall wrote:Because despite Hamas beng a terrorist organsation they did more than the PA to setup schools and hospitals in the Palestianian areas as well as bringing in food and medical aid.

And the Nazi party made the trains run on time, and set up cheap "Strength Through Joy" (KdF) vacations for the workers, and made the German Economy boom during the 1930s due to massive deficit spending on munitions. Of course, their true aim was never concealed from the voters; all anyone had to do was read a copy of Mein Kampf, provided so kindly by the Nazi Party to Johann and Helga, or simply open their eyes to what was happening to the Jews.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2006-06-10 04:44pm

Hamas and their fucking schools. What the hell do you think they teach in those schools, secular humanist education?

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » 2006-06-10 04:46pm

MKSheppard wrote:
And the Nazi party made the trains run on time, and set up cheap "Strength Through Joy" (KdF) vacations for the workers, and made the German Economy boom during the 1930s due to massive deficit spending on munitions. Of course, their true aim was never concealed from the voters; all anyone had to do was read a copy of Mein Kampf, provided so kindly by the Nazi Party to Johann and Helga, or simply open their eyes to what was happening to the Jews.

And how does that refute my point that Hamas was a better option for the Palestinians than the Fatwah Party?

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2006-06-10 04:49pm

It's called the Fatah party. I don't mean to nitpick, it's just that Fatwah means something else entirely in the Middle East.

Elfdart · Post by **Elfdart** » 2006-06-10 04:52pm

fgalkin wrote:I'll tell you why if you tell me why you have such a hard on for Arab nazis.

I don't, but you practically salivate at the thought of dead Arabs. You're just a sick fuck, but not the only one on this board. Speaking of sick fucks, Yellow Rain Man's little skit with the punchline of blowing up an Arab kid is informative, only not the way he thinks. If the fact that people vote for a bloodthirsty moron means they are fair game for mass murder, doesn't that mean Mohammed Atta and his men were justified in what they did?

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2006-06-10 04:54pm

Of course not, since as Michael Moore informs us, the people who died on 9/11 were citizens of a state that did not vote for Bush.

Elfdart · Post by **Elfdart** » 2006-06-10 04:57pm

MKSheppard wrote:
Ace Pace wrote:Yes SHep, I'm sure EVERY single one of them is a terrorist, ignoring years of service.
THen why did they all vote in HAMAS, which they all knew was a terrorist organization built around the simple premise of:

"Jews Bad; KILL ALL THE JEWS!"

It's only right and proper that they're finally having to face the hard reality of their disastrous decisions after getting a free ride for so long from feckless governments and negotiators.

Nice logic, fucktard. By your reasoning, Israelis who are blown up are just "having to face the hard reality of their disastrous decisions after getting a free ride for so long from feckless governments and negotiators" because they vote for war criminals (like Aryan Sharon) and thugs who advocate ethnic cleansing (Uzi Landau and Effie Eitam, among others).

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » 2006-06-10 05:01pm

Joe wrote:It's called the Fatah party. I don't mean to nitpick, it's just that Fatwah means something else entirely in the Middle East.

Thanks Joe.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2006-06-10 06:13pm

Elfdart wrote:Speaking of sick fucks, Yellow Rain Man's little skit with the punchline of blowing up an Arab kid is informative, only not the way he thinks.

Whine all you want, its the truth. The evil jews don't deliberately target beachfront parties for shits and giggles. It's a well known fact that Palestinian "militants" routinely fire off their rockets at Israel from locations that are ripe for collateral damage when Israel replies with artillery fire.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » 2006-06-10 06:20pm

MKSheppard wrote:
Whine all you want, its the truth. The evil jews don't deliberately target beachfront parties for shits and giggles. It's a well known fact that Palestinian "militants" routinely fire off their rockets at Israel from locations that are ripe for collateral damage when Israel replies with artillery fire.

And you somehow think that responding to a rocket attack with an artillery strike, itself an area weapon is less criminal? Especially when it's fired into a civilian area? The Israeli's have methods of retaliation at their disposal that cause less colateral damage, they could try using helicopters for example.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2006-06-10 06:27pm

Cpl Kendall wrote:The Israeli's have methods of retaliation at their disposal that cause less colateral damage, they could try using helicopters for example.

Helocopters take time to reply. By then, the militants are gone. Artillery arrives much faster.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » 2006-06-10 06:30pm

MKSheppard wrote:
Helocopters take time to reply. By then, the militants are gone. Artillery arrives much faster.

We use helicopters to respond to rocket attacks in Afghanistan and don't seem to have any problems.