Andromeda vs. a Turbolaser blast

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-09-13 06:09am

A Heavy Turbolaser blast(2.5TT) is going to hit the Andromeda in a second, there is no chance of evasion.

What will happen?

omegaLancer · Post by **omegaLancer** » 2002-09-13 06:38am

Since the Hull of the Andromeda is made of Fullerene, the TL beam would punch thru the ship like a hot knife thru butter..once thru the hull it would vaporize anything in it path and come out the other side...

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-09-13 06:44am

andromeda delenda est

seriously though, does it have any energy sheilds at all?

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-09-13 07:45am

None what-so ever, 20 Mega-ton missles are enough to Hull her so....

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-09-13 07:52am

I'd like to note my estimation is rather low-end, I have seen calcs based on scalings and the size difference between the 6MT LTL's and 200GT QTL's and they give 80Petaton broadsides for ISD's for example, thats 3e26joules, literally enough to blow up a small moon.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-09-13 08:01am

Mr Bean wrote:None what-so ever, 20 Mega-ton missles are enough to Hull her so....

Excellent, time to try

Necron cruiser vs andromeda ascendant boarding operation.

Their transporters can puut armies in position from several AU.

XaLEv · Post by **XaLEv** » 2002-09-13 09:04am

The six megaton guns on the Acclamator are not LTLs, they are laser cannon.

Larz · Post by **Larz** » 2002-09-16 03:03pm

--PoP--

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2002-09-16 03:05pm

XaLEv wrote:The six megaton guns on the Acclamator are not LTLs, they are laser cannon.

Do you really want my next scaling to be even more sick than that?

XaLEv · Post by **XaLEv** » 2002-09-16 03:07pm

SirNitram wrote:
XaLEv wrote:The six megaton guns on the Acclamator are not LTLs, they are laser cannon.
Do you really want my next scaling to be even more sick than that?

I dunno. Yes?

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2002-09-16 03:07pm

XaLEv wrote:
SirNitram wrote:
XaLEv wrote:The six megaton guns on the Acclamator are not LTLs, they are laser cannon.
Do you really want my next scaling to be even more sick than that?
I dunno. Yes?

...I'll be back in a few minutes.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2002-09-16 03:22pm

Alright. First, a brief explanation of West End Games damage scaling. This is all I've got to work with, and it is, technically, Official data. The damage scales are done in 'dice code'. 2D means, for damage, roll 2 normal, six sided dice, add the result, and compare it to enemy defense.

The lightest capship gun I've found is a 2D laser cannon from a pre-clonewar ship. We'll assume this is analogous to the 6MT guns. Everything else is a turbo.

The QuadTurbos are 5D. You know, the 200GT ones.

The lightest Heavy Turbolaser Cannon(Not battery) I could find is 8D. From the Carrack, actually. Assuming roughly linear progression, 6.6PT per cannon.

But wait Mr. Wizard! The Carrack is an outdated ship!

If we want to be truly, horribly, nastily sick, all over the place, really making a mess, we can scale up to the 10D(That's right. You roll ten six sided dice for a single HTL battery) batteries on the ISD-II. This ought to be 217 Exatons per battery.

What's slightly more disturbing is that this is not the most obscene scaling I have made. All the weapons listed above are considered 'capital scale'. They are primarily used to fight other capital ships, even the puny Acclamator light guns. There's rules for 'scaling' a starfighter weapon to capital scale. When I used these, a HTL battery wound up more powerful than the DS main gun's calc's.(And what happened when I inputted the scaled DS main gun in? Well, the Culture would shit themselves.)

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-09-16 03:53pm

The culture would shit themselves for about half a nanosecond (the humans in the culture essensially being slaves of the minds) Then they'd effectorise it.

Primary ignition, will not engage.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2002-09-16 05:22pm

NecronLord wrote:The culture would shit themselves for about half a nanosecond (the humans in the culture essensially being slaves of the minds) Then they'd effectorise it.

Primary ignition, will not engage.

Do they have humour on your planet?

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-09-17 08:01am

No, we necrons lost humour some time ago

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2002-09-17 10:45am

NecronLord wrote:andromeda delenda est

seriously though, does it have any energy sheilds at all?

I thought the Andromeda could use it's AG fields to minimally sheild itself, like from radiation? Nothing that would impact this discussion though.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-09-17 11:34am

I thought the Andromeda could use it's AG fields to minimally sheild itself, like from radiation? Nothing that would impact this discussion though

Nope Harper nearly dies when they cruse in close to a star from the Rads

Renewed_Valour1 · Post by **Renewed_Valour1** » 2002-09-17 05:36pm

NecronLord wrote:seriously though, does it have any energy sheilds at all?

The AG fields can deflect most object with mass away from the hull. On top of that the ram scoops can be reconfigured to deflect plasma based weapons away from the hull forming a deflect shield. The newest class of High Guard warships priot the Fall the Siege Perilous II DSX employed cold plasma shields.

omegaLancer · Post by **omegaLancer** » 2002-09-17 05:41pm

The problem of radiation shielding and Fullerene have already been tackled by the good poeple of NASA..

Already looking into the future use of fullerene Nanotubes and shielding against cosmic rays and Ionic radiation, shielding would be in the form of Hydrogen atoms being pump into the center of the Fullerene Nanotude, this would imitate the effect of tanks of water being place between the crew and the radiation..

Hydrogen and water, provide better shielding than metal, due to the fact that Cosmic rays consid of He Nucleus, that upon impact against heavy nucleus would result in secondary emission of Neutrons and gamma rays...

So this is the most likily way that Radiation shielding is provided by the Fullerene Hull of the Andromeda.

omegaLancer · Post by **omegaLancer** » 2002-09-17 05:43pm

Uncommon, the problem is that a TL is pure electromagnetic energy and both the Scoop and the AG fields would provide no protection against it...Nil, Nada, Nie, etc.......

Renewed_Valour1 · Post by **Renewed_Valour1** » 2002-09-17 06:17pm

omegaLancer wrote:Uncommon, the problem is that a TL is pure electromagnetic energy and both the Scoop and the AG fields would provide no protection against it...Nil, Nada, Nie, etc.......

Funny another Warsie just said that Vong plasma weapons were a lot like turbolasers.

Amazing how turbolasers can change from pure electromagnetic energy to plasma weapons depending on whatever a given Warsie needs them to do. All most as bad the defector dish.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2002-09-17 06:20pm

Renewed_Valour1 wrote:
omegaLancer wrote:Uncommon, the problem is that a TL is pure electromagnetic energy and both the Scoop and the AG fields would provide no protection against it...Nil, Nada, Nie, etc.......
Funny another Warsie just said that Vong plasma weapons were a lot like turbolasers. Amazing how turbolasers can change from pure electromagnetic energy to plasma weapons depending on whatever a given Warsie needs them to do. All most as bad the defector dish.

Wow, could it be that they share propagation/damage ratios? Perhaps the luminesense is similar? You do a fine job of taking a simple statement and twisting it.

And the true matter? We don't know what TL's are. The 'tracer' is probably electromagnetic/plasma, but the actual part is unknown.

omegaLancer · Post by **omegaLancer** » 2002-09-17 08:09pm

From the ICS for AOTC it states that Turbolaser are invisible beams of Electromagnetic Energy... And this has been agrued over and over again, Saxon writing in the ICS is the final word..

All the unusual properties can be expalin that the energy is in the form of a Light Bullet (a soliton like structure created of electromagnetic energy)..

Uncommon is twisting what was said.. The Vong Plasma missile is similar in Yields and in the time that it take for it to reach it target.. Indicating that the Vong weapons are of similar speed ( the Hi 90 psl)

What a desperate attempt on your part Uncommon, something that I would not expect from you... shame on you

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2002-09-17 08:13pm

If you use the word Soliton incorrectly again I will eat you, sir.

XaLEv · Post by **XaLEv** » 2002-09-17 08:32pm

omegaLancer wrote:From the ICS for AOTC it states that Turbolaser are invisible beams of Electromagnetic Energy... And this has been agrued over and over again, Saxon writing in the ICS is the final word..

All the unusual properties can be expalin that the energy is in the form of a Light Bullet (a soliton like structure created of electromagnetic energy)..

Notice the curious lack of the word 'electromagnetic' in the excerpt below.

Energy weapons fire invisible energy beams at lightspeed. The visible "bolt"
is a glowing pulse that travels along the beam at less than lightspeed...The
light given off by visible bolts depletes the overall energy content of a
beam, limiting its range. Turbolasers gain a longer range by spinning the
energy beam, which reduces waste glow.

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Andromeda vs. a Turbolaser blast

Andromeda vs. a Turbolaser blast

Bore right thru like a knife thru butter

Radiation shielding and fullerene

But AG shield would not protect against EM radiations

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