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"He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."
Thomas Paine
"For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten."
Ecclesiastes 9:5 (KJV)
I really like that graphic and have plans to share it far and wide.
A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory.Leonard Nimoy.
Now I did a job. I got nothing but trouble since I did it, not to mention more than a few unkind words as regard to my character so let me make this abundantly clear. I do the job. And then I get paid.- Malcolm Reynolds, Captain of Serenity, which sums up my feelings regarding the lawsuit discussed here.
If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich. - John F. Kennedy
Do I really have to point out the usual: the US is not the world?
JULY 20TH 1969 - The day the entire world was looking up
It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small. - NEIL ARMSTRONG, MISSION COMMANDER, APOLLO 11
Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.
MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.
A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory.Leonard Nimoy.
Now I did a job. I got nothing but trouble since I did it, not to mention more than a few unkind words as regard to my character so let me make this abundantly clear. I do the job. And then I get paid.- Malcolm Reynolds, Captain of Serenity, which sums up my feelings regarding the lawsuit discussed here.
If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich. - John F. Kennedy
Broomstick wrote:Never hurts - it is a misleading title.
My title is from the article and think we can project in this case to the rest of the world
"He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."
Thomas Paine
"For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten."
Ecclesiastes 9:5 (KJV)
PeZook wrote:Do I really have to point out the usual: the US is not the world?
That's crazy talk. What is this non-US world you speak of? I hope you're not talking about Canada, or other various mythological nether-regions.
Kitsune wrote:Just how stark change it is
Yeah. We really often take for granted how fucking amazing modern technology and medical science really is. Average life-expectancy (from around 20 years in the Neolithic to around 70 years today) is another incredible indicator of how far we've really come. Life used to really suck.
Broomstick wrote:Never hurts - it is a misleading title.
My title is from the article and think we can project in this case to the rest of the world
Why?
Omeganian wrote:
PeZook wrote:Do I really have to point out the usual: the US is not the world?
Of course you are welcome to provide different statistics for the rest so long as properly supported.
"I did a bad job but you are welcome to do all the work of correcting it."
Whoever says "education does not matter" can try ignorance
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A decision must be made in the life of every nation at the very moment when the grasp of the enemy is at its throat. Then, it seems that the only way to survive is to use the means of the enemy, to rest survival upon what is expedient, to look the other way. Well, the answer to that is 'survival as what'? A country isn't a rock. It's not an extension of one's self. It's what it stands for. It's what it stands for when standing for something is the most difficult! - Chief Judge Haywood
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I agree with the general gist of the piece, it's just that generalizing it to the rest of the world is a bit hasty.
EDIT: Oh wait I totally forgot! Fixed title
JULY 20TH 1969 - The day the entire world was looking up
It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small. - NEIL ARMSTRONG, MISSION COMMANDER, APOLLO 11
Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.
MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.
Kitsune wrote:My title is from the article and think we can project in this case to the rest of the world
Why?
Does a diptheria vaccine work less well in other parts of the world than in the US? Sure, it might not have achieved the same high rate of vaccination and herd immunity there, but that's not the vaccine's fault.
Saying "the world" implies it's the same all over as we know it's not - plenty of third world countries have appallingly low vaccination rates and several of those diseases are still endemic in those places. Which is a damn shame because there's no reason for that suffering to still be occurring other than apathy, disinterest, and in a few cases, active campaigns against vaccination.
A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory.Leonard Nimoy.
Now I did a job. I got nothing but trouble since I did it, not to mention more than a few unkind words as regard to my character so let me make this abundantly clear. I do the job. And then I get paid.- Malcolm Reynolds, Captain of Serenity, which sums up my feelings regarding the lawsuit discussed here.
If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich. - John F. Kennedy
We also did murder smallpox and are currently holding all survivors captive under guard, so that's one way how vaccines did change the entire world
JULY 20TH 1969 - The day the entire world was looking up
It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small. - NEIL ARMSTRONG, MISSION COMMANDER, APOLLO 11
Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.
MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.
Kitsune wrote:My title is from the article and think we can project in this case to the rest of the world
Why?
Does a diptheria vaccine work less well in other parts of the world than in the US? Sure, it might not have achieved the same high rate of vaccination and herd immunity there, but that's not the vaccine's fault.
People are still dieing from diptheria in Africa. Vaccination rates matter a lot more than just effectiveness. Also, nobody claimed that to be the fault of the vaccine, so I don't know what you are arguing here.
Whoever says "education does not matter" can try ignorance
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A decision must be made in the life of every nation at the very moment when the grasp of the enemy is at its throat. Then, it seems that the only way to survive is to use the means of the enemy, to rest survival upon what is expedient, to look the other way. Well, the answer to that is 'survival as what'? A country isn't a rock. It's not an extension of one's self. It's what it stands for. It's what it stands for when standing for something is the most difficult! - Chief Judge Haywood
------------ My LPs
PeZook wrote:We also did murder smallpox and are currently holding all survivors captive under guard, so that's one way how vaccines did change the entire world
Yes. Now if we can just get people to stop being stupid about polio we might achieve equal success there.
As a side note, while it does not involve vaccines, we are also on the verge of eliminating dracunculus, which would be the first parasitic disease rendered extinct.
A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory.Leonard Nimoy.
Now I did a job. I got nothing but trouble since I did it, not to mention more than a few unkind words as regard to my character so let me make this abundantly clear. I do the job. And then I get paid.- Malcolm Reynolds, Captain of Serenity, which sums up my feelings regarding the lawsuit discussed here.
If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich. - John F. Kennedy