Bleach Poured Over Woman For Slighting Chav...

[Big Orange]

This is so appalling and calculated:

Bleach Attack Appeal After Potter Film Row
1:28pm UK, Friday July 31, 2009

Police are hunting a group of youths who threw bleach on a woman in front of her family after she asked them to be quiet during a screening of the new Harry Potter film.

The 46-year-old woman was watching the movie with her husband and two children at a cinema when she asked the group of five or six teenagers, including at least one girl, to stop making a noise.

After the film, two of the group followed the family into a nearby restaurant and threw bleach over the woman's head and back, leaving her needing hospital treatment for burns to her skin and possible permanent damage to her eyes.

West Yorkshire Police described the attack as "completely unwarranted" and said the consequences could have been much worse.

A spokesman said the woman asked the youths to be quiet after they began making a noise during Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince at the Vue cinema in Kirkstall Road, Leeds on Sunday.

As the family left the cinema at about 7.30pm and went to a nearby Frankie & Benny's restaurant, some of the group shouted abuse at them from a small white or silver hatchback.

Around 15 minutes later, two of the youths entered the restaurant and threw the bleach over the woman before running to the car, which was parked on Greenhow Road.

A witness who wished to remain anonymous told Sky News: "The whole restaurant seemed to be in panic. The family were left absolutely traumatised. The staff at Frankie and Benny's did what they could to help but everybody was in shock."

The mother was taken to Leeds General Infirmary for treatment to burns to her skin and later released but is still being assessed to discover if her eyes have been permanently damaged.

Police said one of the attackers was described as a light-skinned, mixed-race man, about 19 years old, 6ft tall and of an athletic build. He had short, dark-brown hair and was wearing a black, short-sleeved t-shirt and black bottoms.

The second attacker was described as Asian, aged around 14, about 5ft 4ins tall and fat. He was wearing black clothing.

The driver of the car, which was possibly a five-door vehicle with tinted rear windows, was described as white, aged 17 to 18, of a wiry build with light-coloured, crew-cut hair.

Another member of the group was a black girl, aged around 14, about 5ft 2ins tall, thin and with her hair tied back in a braid.

Detective Inspector Richard Baildon said: "This was a completely unwarranted attack on a mother out with her family, the consequences of which could have been much worse.

"It was a deliberate act, designed to cause pain and injury and it was totally unprovoked and unnecessary. We are treating it very seriously and are determined to trace those responsible."

Mr Baildon appealed for anyone who saw the group or the car at the time, or who knows the youths involved, to come forward.

He added: "I would also appeal to any members of the group who may want to distance themselves from the actions of the others to get in touch before we come and find you."

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[General Zod]

Those fuckers deserve to be locked up for aggravated assault, at a minimum I would hope.

[[R_H]]

For something as trivial as being told to be quiet during a movie. What a bunch of anti-social idiots.

[Crown]

For something as trivial as being told to be quiet during a movie. What a bunch of anti-social idiots.

Most of them are probably already on file due to ASBOs by now anyway I'd warrant.

[Crazedwraith]

I was wondering last time I saw this story how a woman in a restaurant could be attacked for telling cinema goers to be quiet. The attack is bad enough but the fact they went off for a few hours to prepare this is terrible and indicative of real malice as opposed to simply poor anger management.

[[R_H]]

For something as trivial as being told to be quiet during a movie. What a bunch of anti-social idiots.

Most of them are probably already on file due to ASBOs by now anyway I'd warrant.

Which would make finding them easier, right?

[General Zod]

For something as trivial as being told to be quiet during a movie. What a bunch of anti-social idiots.

Most of them are probably already on file due to ASBOs by now anyway I'd warrant.

Which would make finding them easier, right?

As long as they can identify them in the first place, I would imagine.

[TithonusSyndrome]

I want to know why "violence culture" persists. At all. The Thar Mentality hasn't done a thing to help us achieve the standard of living we now enjoy, and yet ironically, the luxuries and surplus revenue at our disposal mean that people can afford to act out and absorb the consequences into their income, or otherwise shrug them off because of the surplus resources that even low-income earners like these chavs have at their disposal compared with, say, a serf in the Middle Ages.

I want to know why a near police-state doesn't exist that furiously prosecutes acts like this and makes committing them over matters of status absolutely untenable, or at the very least impossible to get away with, because when I step back and consider the fact that a first world standard of living has made a subculture of violence and coercion for status not only possible, but even encouraged in schools, bars and even workplaces, I get seriously pissed off.

[CaptainChewbacca]

The nice thing is, it's England so they almost definitely have these fuckers on video.

[[R_H]]

The nice thing is, it's England so they almost definitely have these fuckers on video.

And a whole restaurant full of witnesses, not to mention a description of a car.

[Eulogy]

I hope she sues the felchers.

[Dartzap]

The nice thing is, it's England so they almost definitely have these fuckers on video.

I know this might be a shocker, but unless they were travelling on main roads all the time, then its highly unlikley they will have been seen on a camera. Generally speaking, its only the town centres that have camera coverage. I imagine there will be some in the cinima, but theres nothing to say they were actually running.


So much for ZOMG BIG BROTHERZ?

[Stofsk]

I hope she sues the felchers.

I hope they catch the little shits and throw them in jail. I'd love to see how long they'd last in mainstream when words gets around they threw bleach on a mother's face. They'd probably last five minutes before bailing to protection.

[Meest]

I have no idea on the reputations of cities over there, what would people say Leeds is like? Would be people be afraid of a gang of kids like this? Just wondering it was still relatively early and thought there would be more forthcoming people at least giving better descriptions or car brand etc.

[Simon_Jester]

I want to know why "violence culture" persists. At all. The Thar Mentality hasn't done a thing to help us achieve the standard of living we now enjoy...

Could you define the Thar Mentality for the benefit of those in the audience who have never heard the term before?

[Thanas]

For something as trivial as being told to be quiet during a movie. What a bunch of anti-social idiots.

Most of them are probably already on file due to ASBOs by now anyway I'd warrant.

What is ASBOs?

[Big Orange]

Anti-Social Behaviour Order. Unfortunately is has become almost a badge of honour amongst the lowlife.

[Patroklos]

I'd imagine that if they don't have the attack on general camera footage, they could just go through all the traffic camera footage from all nearby intersections and see if they get a car matching the description and go from there.

[Big Orange]

This goes beyond being just being a dim prick with low inhabitions and bad fashion sense, this incident sound more like genuine sociopathy:

Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.

One of the two attackers is bound to be a ringleader of the gang, with other members being weak willed instead of genuinely bad, but they'll go down alongside the real psycho who did this almost motiveless attack. The poor woman probably even almost forgot about what happened in the cinema.

Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.

The two punks seemed pretty outraged by being told to shut the fuck up in a cinema, outraged enough to seriously harm a mother in front of her family and many other people, likely unmoved by their frightened and upset reactions to the bleach pouring.

Profile of the Sociopath

[CDiehl]

Could you define the Thar Mentality for the benefit of those in the audience who have never heard the term before?

It's the attitude that violence must be the correct response to every real or perceived slight or bump in the road of one's life. It's basically a bullshit version of "honor" and "respect", as people with this attitude demand them from everyone all the time, despite doing little or nothing to earn it.

[Stark]

One of the two attackers is bound to be a ringleader of the gang, with other members being weak willed instead of genuinely bad, but they'll go down alongside the real psycho who did this almost motiveless attack. The poor woman probably even almost forgot about what happened in the cinema.

Where are you getting this stuff? How do you know this? Are you just fearmongering? Some stupid kids fucked someone up. Where's this 'ringleader' and 'sociopath' stuff coming from? Stupid young criminals do stupid shit all the time for stupid reasons. Shuold we start talking about all the 'motiveless killings', or just the headlining, gory and titilating ones?

[Stargate Nerd]

I want to know why a near police-state doesn't exist that furiously prosecutes acts like this and makes committing them over matters of status absolutely untenable, or at the very least impossible to get away with, because when I step back and consider the fact that a first world standard of living has made a subculture of violence and coercion for status not only possible, but even encouraged in schools, bars and even workplaces, I get seriously pissed off.

I think that if we had a near police state, prisons would be overflowing with criminals, but crime would not be reduced in a significant matter.

Just compare crimes rates, prison populations levels and severity of punishments handed out in the US and some European countries.

[El Moose Monstero]

One of the two attackers is bound to be a ringleader of the gang, with other members being weak willed instead of genuinely bad, but they'll go down alongside the real psycho who did this almost motiveless attack. The poor woman probably even almost forgot about what happened in the cinema.

Where are you getting this stuff? How do you know this? Are you just fearmongering? Some stupid kids fucked someone up. Where's this 'ringleader' and 'sociopath' stuff coming from? Stupid young criminals do stupid shit all the time for stupid reasons. Shuold we start talking about all the 'motiveless killings', or just the headlining, gory and titilating ones?

Come on Stark, everyone and his dog is a sociopath wearing an ASBO as a badge of honour these days rather than just being malicious, stupid assholes deserving jailtime, don't you pay attention to armchair psychologists , histrionic fearmongering the tabloids? I hear Heather Mills is a 'true sociopath', rather than just a charity worker who turns out to be a greedy bitch.

[Stofsk]

On one hand, I want to say 'Duh!' to Big Orange for stating the obvious, while on the other hand I want to agree with Stark, because frankly the only person who should be making any sort of diagnosis on these delinquent assholes is a forensic psychiatrist.

[The Spartan]

Could you define the Thar Mentality for the benefit of those in the audience who have never heard the term before?

It's the attitude that violence must be the correct response to every real or perceived slight or bump in the road of one's life. It's basically a bullshit version of "honor" and "respect", as people with this attitude demand them from everyone all the time, despite doing little or nothing to earn it.

Is it just me or do people who act like this also seem to be the least likely to act respectfully to others?