Customer Shoots 2 Subway Robbery Suspects

Flagg · Post by **Flagg** » 2007-06-28 06:08pm

Don't fuck with a retired Marine. Now, watch the family of the dead shitstain sue him for wrongful death...

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2007-06-28 06:33pm

Yeah holy shit, they were forcing him into a bathroom. They only do that so they can kill people off camera.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2007-06-28 07:19pm

What kind of fucked up idiots plan to murder the customers at a Subway they're robbing? The place wouldn't even have half as much money in it as a gas station, let alone a bank.

Flagg · Post by **Flagg** » 2007-06-28 07:32pm

DPDarkPrimus wrote:Yeah holy shit, they were forcing him into a bathroom. They only do that so they can kill people off camera.

They may have just been forcing him in there so he wouldn't get in the way, but if I had a gun and they tried to move me to a secluded area of the store I'd fight back too.

Jadeite · Post by **Jadeite** » 2007-06-28 07:47pm

Flagg wrote:
They may have just been forcing him in there so he wouldn't get in the way, but if I had a gun and they tried to move me to a secluded area of the store I'd fight back too.

No, robbers generally only do that if they plan on killing them. Too bad the other asshole isn't dead as well.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2007-06-28 08:15pm

The ironic thing is that if they'd just run in, punched the guy behind the counter, and grabbed the cash drawer, they'd both be alive and have the cash right now, and would probably never be caught.

Stuart · Post by **Stuart** » 2007-06-28 08:28pm

Flagg wrote: Now, watch the family of the dead shitstain sue him for wrongful death...

Not so; Florida is a Castle Doctrine state; a citizen who kills or wounds a perp who's been threatened by a perp can't be sued by either said perp or his family. A lot of states are Castle Doctrine now,

Good for the Marine! I hope somebody compensates him for the cost of the ammunition.

NeoGoomba · Post by **NeoGoomba** » 2007-06-28 09:05pm

Wow, they named a doctrine after The Punisher?

TithonusSyndrome · Post by **TithonusSyndrome** » 2007-06-28 09:22pm

The Duchess of Zeon wrote:What kind of fucked up idiots plan to murder the customers at a Subway they're robbing? The place wouldn't even have half as much money in it as a gas station, let alone a bank.

Nobody ever said these jokers were bright. I got a job at a Subway in Calgary shortly after turning 18 without a resume, but the owner felt that as a dude, I was less likely to be killed by a crackhead with a hammer for the $50 in the register like the girl she had in the shift I was filling.

Stuart · Post by **Stuart** » 2007-06-28 10:21pm

The Duchess of Zeon wrote:What kind of idiots plan to murder the customers at a Subway they're robbing? The place wouldn't even have half as much money in it as a gas station, let alone a bank.

Your Grace, if you go to the Texas Department of Justice Death Row Homepage, they give the charge sheets for people who are on death row. If you look at the ones where the murder(s) took place as part of a robbery, the majority of them are for less than US$100 and a large number are for US$20 - 30. The Clark County DA's office does a very interesting list as well; that one's country-wide and shows much the same thing. It also gives what the unlamented departed chose for their last meal.

Stuart · Post by **Stuart** » 2007-06-28 10:24pm

TithonusSyndrome wrote: Nobody ever said these jokers were bright. I got a job at a Subway in Calgary shortly after turning 18 without a resume, but the owner felt that as a dude, I was less likely to be killed by a crackhead with a hammer for the $50 in the register like the girl she had in the shift I was filling.

The girl who had the job before you was whacked? I hope you were carrying when you started your shift each evening. These crackheads tend to come back.

J · Post by J » 2007-06-28 10:27pm

NeoGoomba wrote:Wow, they named a doctrine after The Punisher?

That's Castle as in my home is my castle and any violators can be shot, not Frank Castle. It also extends towards self-defence situations where a man believes his life & limb is in danger.

Stuart · Post by **Stuart** » 2007-06-28 10:28pm

NeoGoomba wrote:Wow, they named a doctrine after The Punisher?

It's a nice thought but I fear not. It's after the "Your Home is Your Castle". What the Castle Doctrine states is that in your home, on your property or in your place of business, you are under no obligation to retreat if threatened. You are also allowed to defend yourself if attacked or threatened with a lethal weapon and will not be subject to civil action by the perp or his relatives.

Zixinus · Post by **Zixinus** » 2007-06-28 10:38pm

Could it be the other way around? Frank Castle named after this idea? Or am I searching for too much depth in comic books?

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2007-06-28 10:41pm

Yeah, vigilante justice! Score one for the good guys...

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2007-06-28 10:54pm

Superman wrote:Yeah, vigilante justice! Score one for the good guys...

This is not vigilante justice. Vigilante justice would be if an unarmed man went up to the register and handed over a note asking for the cash inside, and then someone pulled out a gun and shot said unarmed man in the back off the head.

Molyneux · Post by **Molyneux** » 2007-06-28 10:56pm

Open-and-shut, this guy acted correctly. Well-done on his part, and a hearty fuck-you to both criminals.

New York doesn't have the Castle Doctrine, does it?

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2007-06-28 11:23pm

Heh. There's a lot of retired Marines being badass lately; first the guy who killed the bear with the log, then the one who broke the hand of a guy trying to pick his pockets (I don't think that one was posted here), and now this.

DrMckay · Post by **DrMckay** » 2007-06-28 11:26pm

Sooooo...

BAMF of the week?

Guy's got my vote.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2007-06-28 11:30pm

The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
Superman wrote:Yeah, vigilante justice! Score one for the good guys...
This is not vigilante justice. Vigilante justice would be if an unarmed man went up to the register and handed over a note asking for the cash inside, and then someone pulled out a gun and shot said unarmed man in the back off the head.

Yeah, technically, it's definitely self defense.

I still say he's a vigilante though... I bet his real name is something like "Clutch" McCloud, and he probably drives a cool car too. Like a late 70's model convertible that was supplied to him by an ultra secret government agency with a cool name like U.N.C.L.E...., that is until they went too far and ordered him to kill innocent civilians. That's when he took the law into his own hands... Using his marine special forces training, he went off on his own and had to lay low. He got a job at Subway because he realized he could fight crime from there...

Damn, now I just need some cool theme music...

TithonusSyndrome · Post by **TithonusSyndrome** » 2007-06-29 12:25am

Stuart wrote:
TithonusSyndrome wrote: Nobody ever said these jokers were bright. I got a job at a Subway in Calgary shortly after turning 18 without a resume, but the owner felt that as a dude, I was less likely to be killed by a crackhead with a hammer for the $50 in the register like the girl she had in the shift I was filling.
The girl who had the job before you was whacked? I hope you were carrying when you started your shift each evening. These crackheads tend to come back.

He didn't, he was long behind bars by then. Even so, that wasn't the brightest job to take, but they didn't exactly tell me all of this until I'd been working there for a few months and needed the income.

Aeolus · Post by **Aeolus** » 2007-06-29 12:44am

Molyneux wrote:Open-and-shut, this guy acted correctly. Well-done on his part, and a hearty fuck-you to both criminals.

New York doesn't have the Castle Doctrine, does it?

No , New York is not a Castle Doctrine state.

Stuart · Post by **Stuart** » 2007-06-29 08:29am

Molyneux wrote:New York doesn't have the Castle Doctrine, does it?

Regrettably no. The ten Castle Doctrine states are Alabama, Arizona, Florida Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kentucky, Oklahoma, Mississippi and South Dakota. In addition, Castle Doctrine acts are going through the legislature in Alaska, Arkansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, New Hampshire, Ohio and South Carolina.

In NY, the Sullivan Act effectively prevents average citizens from carrying unless they have a permit that's almost impossible to get. So, in the same situation in NY, the staff and customers are dead.

Aeolus · Post by **Aeolus** » 2007-06-29 10:27am

Stuart wrote:
Molyneux wrote:New York doesn't have the Castle Doctrine, does it?
Regrettably no. The ten Castle Doctrine states are Alabama, Arizona, Florida Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kentucky, Oklahoma, Mississippi and South Dakota. In addition, Castle Doctrine acts are going through the legislature in Alaska, Arkansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, New Hampshire, Ohio and South Carolina.

In NY, the Sullivan Act effectively prevents average citizens from carrying unless they have a permit that's almost impossible to get. So, in the same situation in NY, the staff and customers are dead.

Texas is as well. They passed the bill recently.

Brother-Captain Gaius · Post by **Brother-Captain Gaius** » 2007-06-29 11:04am

It should also be noted that Colorado is a "Make My Day" state, though as far as I know we don't have any Castle Doctrine.