Biggest offensive since OIF 2003.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2007-06-22 05:29pm

As I look over the reports of THE GLORIOUS SURGE OF THE PEOPLE'S GLORIOUS CONSERVATIVE REPUBLIC OF DEMOCRACY, something's caught my eye.

'Al Qeada. Al Qeada. Al Qeada.'

Not too long ago, officialy estimates pegged A-Q as less than ten percent of the fighters in Iraq. Now, everything refers to A-Q. Propaganda, AWAY!

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2007-06-22 05:46pm

Haven't you heard the latest catchphrases on the Sunday talk shows, Nitram? "If we leave Iraq we are retreating in the face of Al-Qaeda." "If we leave Iraq we are abandoning the country to Al-Qaeda." How they can say shit like this with a straight face I will never understand. It is embarassing to still see this AlQaeda bullshit trotted out whenever the Republicans are in trouble like some sort of twisted mantra.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2007-06-22 06:56pm

SirNitram wrote:As I look over the reports of THE GLORIOUS SURGE OF THE PEOPLE'S GLORIOUS CONSERVATIVE REPUBLIC OF DEMOCRACY, something's caught my eye.

'Al Qeada. Al Qeada. Al Qeada.'

Not too long ago, officialy estimates pegged A-Q as less than ten percent of the fighters in Iraq. Now, everything refers to A-Q. Propaganda, AWAY!

Of around 85,000 insurgents who have been killed in action against American forces, little more than 5,000 of them were foreign fighters under the aegis of al-Qaeda, which gives a pretty good idea of a ratio of al-Qaeda to other groups fighting us--about 1 al-Qaeda man for every 16 Iraqis.

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2007-06-22 07:14pm

Stravo wrote:Haven't you heard the latest catchphrases on the Sunday talk shows, Nitram? "If we leave Iraq we are retreating in the face of Al-Qaeda." "If we leave Iraq we are abandoning the country to Al-Qaeda." How they can say shit like this with a straight face I will never understand. It is embarassing to still see this AlQaeda bullshit trotted out whenever the Republicans are in trouble like some sort of twisted mantra.

More like: "If we leave, Al Qaeda fighters will get roasted on spits by the Shia and Sunnis".

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2007-06-22 08:30pm

so how much are we betting, and how fucked is the dollar going to be once peak oil, and the bush economic house of cards really hits?

Wanderer · Post by **Wanderer** » 2007-06-23 11:43am

The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
Of around 85,000 insurgents who have been killed in action against American forces, little more than 5,000 of them were foreign fighters under the aegis of al-Qaeda, which gives a pretty good idea of a ratio of al-Qaeda to other groups fighting us--about 1 al-Qaeda man for every 16 Iraqis.

Highly doubtful for 85,000. More likely 20,000 the rest who are labeled insurgents were more likely just average joes who took up a gun when they heard their door busted down in the night due to bad intel and got shot and labeled an Insurgent.

Other possibilities are people in the wrong place, or men who made an enemy of someone with the ear of the U.S. Military and died defending themselves.