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The following is an editorial, but the quote is too priceless...
In private, Bush administration sub-Cabinet officials who have been instrumental in formulating and sustaining the legal "war paradigm" acknowledge that their efforts to create a system for detainees separate from due process, criminal justice and law enforcement have failed. One of the key framers of the war paradigm (in which the president in his wartime capacity as commander in chief makes and enforces laws as he sees fit, overriding the constitutional system of checks and balances), who a year ago was arguing vehemently for pushing its boundaries, confesses that he has abandoned his belief in the whole doctrine, though he refuses to say so publicly. If he were to speak up, given his seminal role in formulating the policy and his stature among the Federalist Society cadres that run it, his rejection would have a shattering impact, far more than political philosopher Francis Fukuyama's denunciation of the neoconservatism he formerly embraced. But this figure remains careful to disclose his disillusionment with his own handiwork only in off-the-record conversations. Yet another Bush legal official, even now at the commanding heights of power, admits that the administration's policies are largely discredited. In its defense, he says without a hint of irony or sarcasm, "Not everything we've done has been illegal." He adds, "Not everything has been ultra vires" -- a legal term referring to actions beyond the law.
There's more, but just that one ending of the first paragraph...

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Sort of like a bank robber trying to argue that at least he didn't run that red light during the get-away.
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I like "ultra vires". That sounds rather sinister for slang.
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"Ultra vires" sounds like some sort of sex toy to me. Those naughty Bushies!

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Stas Bush wrote:I like "ultra vires". That sounds rather sinister for slang.
It's Latin, not slang.
IIRC it means 'above the power' or something like that.
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I love the way he basically correct himself from "illegal" to "above the law". What difference is there?
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Stas Bush wrote:I like "ultra vires". That sounds rather sinister for slang.
It's Latin, not slang.
IIRC it means 'above the power' or something like that.
Above the law, I think. Certainly constitutes an accurate statement of the attitude of this Administration. Like Cheney, whose not of the Judiciary, Legislative, and lately, not part of the Executive either.
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There's a big difference. Criminals commit illegal acts. God is above the law. It's like that, a simple comparison shows that "above the law" doesn't necessarilly mean a moral bad... :wink: :lol:
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Darth Wong wrote:I love the way he basically correct himself from "illegal" to "above the law". What difference is there?
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"Not everything we've done has been illegal."
"Not everything" Hitler did was abhorent either. :roll:
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why am I now picturing some neo-con fanboi dressing up in that rediculous helmet and shouting "I AM THE LAW!"

no, even mega-city would have dinged the chimp over that one.
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