Poland becoming a hostile environment for gays

Pint0 Xtreme · Post by **Pint0 Xtreme** » 2007-06-21 03:54am

Polish homosexuals flee persecution in exodus to UK

Polish gay rights groups say thousands of homosexuals have fled the country to the UK to escape increasing persecution.

Robert Biedron, a left wing party activist and head of the Polish Foundation Against Homophobia, said "huge numbers" of Polish gays had now fled the country following the rise to power of the current right-wing conservative government.

He said: "It is incredible. The Polish gay community has just moved away because of the climate of fear and persecution.

"Most of the people I know are now in England because of the current political situation. Not for economic reasons, but because of the persecution of homosexuals going on here.

"It’s impossible for gays to be themselves in Poland. Around two million Poles have left the country seeking work and thousands of gays are joining them.

"Many gays are approaching our foundation for help in emigrating to the UK."

Poland’s Catholic, conservative right-wing government has members who are openly anti-gay and the health ministry has created a special committee responsible for "curing" gays, according to local media.

Deputy health minister Marek Grafowski said the ministry was also planning to identify how many people in Poland were gay and work out a set of behavioural guides to assist parents and teachers in recognising warning signs of potential "gay" behaviour.

The police have also been compiling a database on gays and the gay community in Poland which although illegal under EU law, is apparently being done as part of a police investigation into a bomb threat two years ago by a gay man.

He had reportedly identified himself as a meber of the gay community angry when a gay rights march was banned in Warsaw.

"The Police are not allowed to catalogue ‘homosexual data’ but it’s enough to look into the police investigation associated with the bomb in order to establish a list of names and addresses," said Ewa Kulesza, a former personal data protection general inspector.

Imperial Overlord · Post by **Imperial Overlord** » 2007-06-21 03:56am

That's just fucking nasty.

Darth Raptor · Post by **Darth Raptor** » 2007-06-21 03:59am

Ah, Poland. The festering, hemorrhagic asshole of the European Union.

Hillary · Post by **Hillary** » 2007-06-21 05:08am

Not exactly a huge surprise.

I would love to hear how they go about "curing" gays - mind you, this being Poland it probably means they hang them upside down over a smokey fire

PeZook · Post by **PeZook** » 2007-06-21 06:34am

Yeah...

When your education minister is an openly anti-gay religious demagogue, you know the country's gone down the shitter.

You know what he said after a wave of student demonstrations that demanded his removal from the Education Ministry? When 140 thousand people signed a petition demanding his resignation?

That these were leftists and gays, not representative of the general populace. On the other hand, when he got about 20 letters from parents praising his efforts, they were the voice of the nation, rather than fuckheaded religious shits.

And these fuckers had the gall to create a governmental Bureau For Management Of the Image of Poland Abroad. What can such an office do when your own government offers nothing but compromitation?

Siege · Post by **Siege** » 2007-06-21 07:20am

Poland- not just a source of cheap labour anymore!

Seriously though, in a twisted way that'd be funny if it wasn't so sad this makes me value the European Union again. It's all shades of sad that this value in this case is in something that shouldn't be neccesary at all- but at least these folks have a place to go now.

Post by **Colonel Olrik** » 2007-06-21 07:35am

SiegeTank wrote:Poland- not just a source of cheap labour anymore!

Seriously though, in a twisted way that'd be funny if it wasn't so sad this makes me value the European Union again. It's all shades of sad that this value in this case is in something that shouldn't be neccesary at all- but at least these folks have a place to go now.

And we can say "cut the bullshit or you will suffer the consequences" to the Polish leadership with a heavy meaning. With this and their "we're so important" attitudes, I always look forward to the next punch coming from Brussels, Berlin and others.

Tribun · Post by **Tribun** » 2007-06-21 08:07am

Poland actually makes themselves look more stupid every day.

Today they really said that all of Poland's death in WW2 should be added to Polands current population number, as without their death, Poland would have a bigger population today (they, the idiots, say almost double of the current!), for the calculation of the numbers of votes in the EU in the future.

Guess how many will agree to this... The German press already has a field day with this shit.

Post by **Colonel Olrik** » 2007-06-21 08:31am

Tribun wrote:Poland actually makes themselves look more stupid every day.

Today they really said that all of Poland's death in WW2 should be added to Polands current population number, as without their death, Poland would have a bigger population today (they, the idiots, say almost double of the current!), for the calculation of the numbers of votes in the EU in the future.

Guess how many will agree to this... The German press already has a field day with this shit.

I hadn't caught that one until now.

That settles it. If the French, Spanish and British hadn't got so many times in our way, Portugal would be much bigger, populated, who knows even still an Empire. We demand the equivalent of 100 million votes!

Siege · Post by **Siege** » 2007-06-21 08:49am

Does that mean the British get three billion votes by virtue of all the folks living in their former Imperial territories, that the Germans get all the Polish votes due to the Holy Roman Empire (ha-HA!), and that Italy usurps the votes of everything that was once Roman?

PeZook · Post by **PeZook** » 2007-06-21 08:53am

Tribun wrote:Poland actually makes themselves look more stupid every day.

Today they really said that all of Poland's death in WW2 should be added to Polands current population number, as without their death, Poland would have a bigger population today (they, the idiots, say almost double of the current!), for the calculation of the numbers of votes in the EU in the future.

Guess how many will agree to this... The German press already has a field day with this shit.

You have a source on this? I think that if it's true, I will have to write some scathing letters to our representatives. Fuck, now I'm actually ashamed to talk about my country. Nice...

Tribun · Post by **Tribun** » 2007-06-21 09:01am

It's all in German, and therefore you can't understand it. They sadly shortend the English version of the news on Spiegel.de So the English news only says:

The Poles have been using particularly emotional rhetoric in advance of the summit. Polish Prime Miniser Jaroslaw Kaczynski told Polish radio on Tuesday that his objection to the proposed new voting formula went back to the country's suffering in World War II. According to Thursday's Financial Times, he said: "If Poland had not had to live through the years of 1939-45, Poland would be today looking at the demographics of a country of 66 million." Poland's current population is 38 million.

But I guess you got the gist of it.

PeZook · Post by **PeZook** » 2007-06-21 09:05am

Huh. What a wonderful non-argument without relevance to anything. Typical for the Duck Duo.

Thanks for source.

Dartzap · Post by **Dartzap** » 2007-06-21 09:09am

The UK's new motto: Bring Me Your Homosexuals, Your Eccentrics, Your Countries Food.

It's nice to see my country appreciated for something these days.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2007-06-21 09:26am

All those off-colour jokes about stupid polish people ... and they seem determined to prove them true.

Molyneux · Post by **Molyneux** » 2007-06-21 05:42pm

Well, if Poland isn't actually the dumbest place on earth...it will be soon, with the intelligent folks leaving for smarter shores.