How to hack off the Muslim world: Knight Salman Rushdie

TithonusSyndrome · Post by **TithonusSyndrome** » 2007-06-18 08:50pm

This suggests a new extreme for Islamofuckheads as I see it. Not only can they not withstand criticism like Rushdie's, but they cannot tolerate the idea of a Western institution carrying about their business and giving him honors that don't have bugger-fuck all to do with them. I hope for their sake that the angels over Mecca are steadfast, 'cause at this rate they'll be inviting their help sooner or later.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2007-06-19 04:43am

The Duchess of Zeon wrote:It's one thing to attempt to avoid offending them in their own lands. But when it is an internal matter of a modern, secular country, and they make these threats, then it time to bare our teeth, fix bayonets, and cry "Ut Veniant Omnes!"

The Lady doth speath the truth.

Dalton wrote:Yeah yeah, so I wasn't thinking. My mistake.

If it helps; if the topic was about building a strip joint in downtown Medina/Mecca, then you would have a lot more people agreeing with you.

But for them to get 'uppity' over the honoring of an author - whom they issued a death order over and then later revoked - a well accomplished and intelligent one at that, then fuck 'em.

Solauren · Post by **Solauren** » 2007-06-19 07:36am

General Letter to people like this

Dear Practioners of Religion that is being an asshole.

Do not expect people outside of your religion to practice, heid, acknowledge, care about, honor, of give a shit, about your religious view or beliefs outside of your own nation or regional control.

In short - Fuck off.

- Sincerly
Rational Society

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2007-06-19 09:06am

The great "offence" Sir Salman committed in The Satanic Verses was a linking of Mohammad to the earlier three goddesses of Arabic myth in the form of his three wives, showing him as a man with human failings even as he's receiving the divine word, and his usage of the pseudonym "Mahoumet" (sp?) for the prophet, which was explained as his seizing the name to make it his own and change its meaning. The book's portrayal of Islam itself was rather tame.

White Haven · Post by **White Haven** » 2007-06-19 09:47am

"The British monarch lives under this illusion that Britain is still a 19th Century superpower and that bestowing titles is something still deemed important."

Well, it's certainly important enough for you to star frothing at the mouth over. The irony, it burns.

Lord Woodlouse · Post by **Lord Woodlouse** » 2007-06-19 10:18am

The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
Dalton wrote:
white_rabbit wrote: Go for it
Yes, let's just piss off a bunch of deranged religious extremists. Nothing will happen, nope.
It's one thing to attempt to avoid offending them in their own lands. But when it is an internal matter of a modern, secular country, and they make these threats, then it time to bare our teeth, fix bayonets, and cry "Ut Veniant Omnes!"

I was with you right until you threw Latin into the mix. You'll never become a successful charismatic dictator if you do that all the time. I think we'll probably be crying something like "'ave it!!", to be honest.

But aye, it's all very daft. I imagine it's mostly all bluff and bluster from the Islamic world though. Everyone will have forgotten about it by next week, I reckons.

Vendetta · Post by **Vendetta** » 2007-06-19 03:43pm

Lord Woodlouse wrote:
The Duchess of Zeon wrote: It's one thing to attempt to avoid offending them in their own lands. But when it is an internal matter of a modern, secular country, and they make these threats, then it time to bare our teeth, fix bayonets, and cry "Ut Veniant Omnes!"
I was with you right until you threw Latin into the mix. You'll never become a successful charismatic dictator if you do that all the time. I think we'll probably be crying something like "'ave it!!", to be honest.

Nah, we'll just use the more modern interpretation of the latin. "Come and 'ave a go if you think you're hard enough".

Norseman · Post by **Norseman** » 2007-06-20 03:36am

LadyTevar wrote:I've still not read "The Satanic Verses"

You're not missing out on anything, it's basically unreadable gibberish. In fact if not for that Fatwa I seriously doubt anyone outside of a small circle of literati would even have heard about it.

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2007-06-20 04:00am

The Duchess of Zeon wrote: It's one thing to attempt to avoid offending them in their own lands. But when it is an internal matter of a modern, secular country, and they make these threats, then it time to bare our teeth, fix bayonets, and cry "Ut Veniant Omnes!"

No no, this is Britian, in such circumstances one must quote Churchill, one of his pre 1939 speeches I think.

CJvR · Post by **CJvR** » 2007-06-20 04:34am

Stuart Mackey wrote:No no, this is Britian, in such circumstances one must quote Churchill, one of his pre 1939 speeches I think.

How about:

...we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender...

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2007-06-20 05:36am

CJvR wrote:
Stuart Mackey wrote:No no, this is Britian, in such circumstances one must quote Churchill, one of his pre 1939 speeches I think.
How about:
...we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender...

No, I said pre 1939. There is an excellent one from the humiliation of Munich which I beleive sums up the rank cowardice displayed by western govenments during the Mohammed cartoon fiasco, and would apply here if HM's governemnt refrained from giving a knighthood under such intimidation as displyed by Pakistan.

Winston Churchill wrote: They should know that there has been gross neglect and deficiency in our defences; they should know that we have sustained a defeat without a war, the consequences of which will travel far with us along our road; they should know that we have passed an awful milestone in our history, when the whole equilibrium of Europe has been deranged, and that the terrible words have for the time being been pronounced against the Western democracies.

"Thou are weighed in the balance and found wanting."

And do not suppose that this is the end. This is only the beginning of the reckoning.This is only the first sip, the first foretaste of a bitter cup which will be proffered to us year by year unless by a supreme recovery of moral health and martial vigour, we arise again and take our stand for freedom as in the olden time.

Dartzap · Post by **Dartzap** » 2007-06-20 02:27pm

Well, me and a mate have come to the conclusion that every time an extremist or OTT Muslim groups decides to be mouthy, we shall make someone they hate a peer.

How many artists were involvedi n that Danish cartoon jiggery-pokery a while back?

Post by **Coyote** » 2007-06-20 02:57pm

Fucking loony Muslim world needs to grow the fuck up.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2007-06-21 07:00am

Fucking loony Muslim world needs to grow the fuck up.

Exactly. But how do you convince them to do that ? Muslims seem to have a hypocritical attitude when it comes to freedom of speech. They demand right to criticise others while preventing others from doing the same to whats sacred to them. There does not appear to be any clear way to change this warped mindset.

PainRack · Post by **PainRack** » 2007-06-21 10:24am

Lord Woodlouse wrote: I was with you right until you threw Latin into the mix. You'll never become a successful charismatic dictator if you do that all the time. I think we'll probably be crying something like "'ave it!!", to be honest.

But aye, it's all very daft. I imagine it's mostly all bluff and bluster from the Islamic world though. Everyone will have forgotten about it by next week, I reckons.

"Let's roll!"

Post by **Coyote** » 2007-06-21 12:24pm

All this "religion of peace" horseshit is so obviously horseshit, but what gets me is the continued insistence that 'the majority of good Muslims don't believe in this'...

If they're the goddamn majority, then why don't the do something about the supposed minority of thugs running the show and getting them in trouble all the time? Answer: it's also horseshit.

Why do the infidels keep bombing your shit? Because the asswipes running your show keep doing stupid things and attracting the infidels attention. Rise up and overthrow 'em, you lame asses, and this will all stop.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2007-06-21 12:40pm

They could say the same thing about American Christians, you know. All of those self-proclaimed "moderates" in the middle; where were they when the time came to stand up for principles? They were waving the flag. They were making excuses as the bodies piled up. They were voting for Bush again in 2004 while still denying responsibility for his crimes.

Christianity has exactly the same problem: an extremist core which provides the impetus for extremely destructive policies and a large "mushy moderate" base which looks the other way and thinks it bears no responsibility. The biggest difference is that the AmeriChristian extremists do most of their damage outside the borders of their own country.

Post by **Coyote** » 2007-06-21 12:51pm

All I can really say in relation to that, DW, is that in the West there are organizations and movements actively opposing the Christofascists, and as a result we have our problems but we are still a long, long way off from the total Taliban-esque lifestyle that they'd like to impose. I agree we need more resistance, though, and lately it seems that the resistance has been loosing ground somewhat.

But the utter insanity that grips the governments and societies over there displays, IMO, a willful consent to be led by the nose to incredibly self-delusional, self-destructive societies.

The thing I harp about a lot is the concept of Honor Killing. It is such a hard concept for me to grasp, and yet it is so widely accepted in the Muslim world that even the "assimilated" or arguably "Westernized" ones in Europe do it. These are the "moderates" that civilisation is supposed to work with?

Sometimes it really does seem that "they want to live in a Medieval hell". A broad-brush stereotype, to be sure, but when nobody over there seems to do a damn thing to reverse the course of this... [trails off in abject frustration]

Sorry, I'm just... arrgh.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2007-06-21 01:06pm

Coyote wrote:But the utter insanity that grips the governments and societies over there displays, IMO, a willful consent to be led by the nose to incredibly self-delusional, self-destructive societies.

As I said, that's the biggest distinction. AmeriChristian fascists tend to do most of their damage to other countries. Islamofascists tend to do most of their damage to their own people.

The thing I harp about a lot is the concept of Honor Killing. It is such a hard concept for me to grasp, and yet it is so widely accepted in the Muslim world that even the "assimilated" or arguably "Westernized" ones in Europe do it. These are the "moderates" that civilisation is supposed to work with?

How much of America's decision to invade Iraq was motivated by a sense of national honour?

Sometimes it really does seem that "they want to live in a Medieval hell". A broad-brush stereotype, to be sure, but when nobody over there seems to do a damn thing to reverse the course of this... [trails off in abject frustration]

It's definitely a real problem, but if Christofascist policies are contributing to millions of AIDS deaths in Africa and Islamofascist policies are leading to tens of thousands of honour killings and brutalizations in their own countries ...

CJvR · Post by **CJvR** » 2007-06-21 04:08pm

The Pakistani Ulama council, a few thousand "learned" islamists, have decided to award OBL the titel of Saifullah or God's sword. The decission was a response to the knighting of Sir Salman, my personal reaction is a huge yawn - we know they are AQ's cheerleading squad.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2007-06-21 04:10pm

I remember there was a Muslim on the twcenter forums (and he was a moderator!) who insisted that attacking someone's religion is the same thing as attacking the person himself. He tried to portray me as a vicious hatemonger because I attack religious beliefs (as an aside, his username was "Honor&Glory", which was rather ironic because he had neither honour or glory).

Anyway, this mindset explains why these fucktards would equate a heretical writer with a fucking terrorist.

Ritterin Sophia · Post by **Ritterin Sophia** » 2007-06-22 04:19pm

Sarevok wrote:
Fucking loony Muslim world needs to grow the fuck up.
Exactly. But how do you convince them to do that ? Muslims seem to have a hypocritical attitude when it comes to freedom of speech. They demand right to criticise others while preventing others from doing the same to whats sacred to them. There does not appear to be any clear way to change this warped mindset.

I've noticed a problem with many Muslims, Hindus, and Chinese wanking to the PLA, when you don't agree with them, you're racists. When you reveal that Mohammed fucked a 9-year Aisha (sp?) you're a racist and he's not a Child Molestor, just because he's a prophet doesn't mean he should have revolutionary moral standards. With the Hindu's, it can be as simple as a former Hindu saying that Bhangra makes you look high. And for the Chinese Military Wankers, you can inform them that China doesn't have the most powerful military in the world, that a 2-billion population is a glaring weakness, and that the PLA isn't 'going to teach Imperialist America' anytime soon.