Bush fights to stop voluntary 'mad cow' testing.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2007-05-31 10:48am

Shroom Man 777 wrote:How do you justify preventing people from testing their beef for horrible diseases?

This is blasphemy, this is madness!

THIS ... IS ... SPARTAAAAAA!!!!!

No, wait, THIS ... IS ... AMERIKA!!!!!!

Post by **K. A. Pital** » 2007-05-31 01:02pm

We don't want to test our beef any better... in America!!!

* Yu-Gi-Oh the Abriged Episodes. You know the guy.

wolveraptor · Post by **wolveraptor** » 2007-05-31 02:04pm

God, they manage to oppose a free market exactly when it would be most beneficial. I could imagine them meeting in some underground secret bunker somewhere plotting exactly how they will next fuck over the average American.

What really pisses me off, though, is that a week later Bush'll be standing on a podium in some hick town offering glowing praise to the glorious institution of capitalism. Motherfuckers.

Post by **K. A. Pital** » 2007-05-31 02:27pm

Remember, capitalism is for the BIG capitalists.

Even Papa Smurf... pardon, Papa Marx wrote about fight between small/medium business and the corporations, where the latter fuck over the former due to sheer capital concentration.

Seriously, I'm kind of wondering why America does not have a strong Dem-Soc/Soc-Dem party. It's very clear that smaller businesses are being fucked over by the corporations. They must be a great potent force for change... or are they?

I mean, social democratic parties have expressed the interest of smaller enterprises and their workers since long, and how is that so America lacks any of it 15 past the fall of the USSR? Surely they must realize who supports their interests and who does not?

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2007-05-31 02:48pm

Well, we only have to put up with Gerogie the moron for ~1.5 years.

Invictus ChiKen · Post by **Invictus ChiKen** » 2007-05-31 03:20pm

Shroom Man 777 wrote:How do you justify preventing people from testing their beef for horrible diseases?

This is blasphemy, this is madness!

This... is... AMERICA!

Glocksman · Post by **Glocksman** » 2007-05-31 03:22pm

Stas Bush wrote: Seriously, I'm kind of wondering why America does not have a strong Dem-Soc/Soc-Dem party. It's very clear that smaller businesses are being fucked over by the corporations. They must be a great potent force for change... or are they? I mean, social democratic parties have expressed the interest of smaller enterprises and their workers since long, and how is that so America lacks any of it 15 past the fall of the USSR? Surely they must realize who supports their interests and who does not?

During periods of our history, we have had such movements arise, but they were co-opted into the two existing parties. Examples of such would be the 'progressives' of the late 19th/early 20th centuries seeing a lot of their domestic policies co-opted by Teddy Roosevelt's 'Bull Moose' Republicans and FDR's 'New Deal', which gave the initial start to what social safety net we do have.

As to why the New Deal didn't continue after the war?
I'd say it was due to many factors, including the individualistic streak that still runs through American society, the shame that used to be associated with 'welfare', and more concrete at the time, the discovery of all those Soviet spies that seemed to infest the New Deal agencies like cockroaches.

In other words, it's your fault.

Post by **K. A. Pital** » 2007-05-31 03:30pm

During periods of our history, we have had such movements arise, but they were co-opted into the two existing parties.

Ah, I see. Wonders of a two-party system I guess. Only two strong players where they incorporate the ideas of any lesser factions.

Invictus ChiKen · Post by **Invictus ChiKen** » 2007-05-31 03:32pm

Ghetto Edit: Mike beat me to the punch. Epic fail.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2007-05-31 03:39pm

Glocksman wrote:
Stas Bush wrote: Seriously, I'm kind of wondering why America does not have a strong Dem-Soc/Soc-Dem party. It's very clear that smaller businesses are being fucked over by the corporations. They must be a great potent force for change... or are they? I mean, social democratic parties have expressed the interest of smaller enterprises and their workers since long, and how is that so America lacks any of it 15 past the fall of the USSR? Surely they must realize who supports their interests and who does not?
During periods of our history, we have had such movements arise, but they were co-opted into the two existing parties. Examples of such would be the 'progressives' of the late 19th/early 20th centuries seeing a lot of their domestic policies co-opted by Teddy Roosevelt's 'Bull Moose' Republicans and FDR's 'New Deal', which gave the initial start to what social safety net we do have.

As to why the New Deal didn't continue after the war?
I'd say it was due to many factors, including the individualistic streak that still runs through American society, the shame that used to be associated with 'welfare', and more concrete at the time, the discovery of all those Soviet spies that seemed to infest the New Deal agencies like cockroaches.

In other words, it's your fault.

And our quite thorough Reaganization at the hands of the media. We've been indoctrinated into thinking the Invisible Hand of the Free Market is all-powerful and will foment a Trickle Down that makes a Rising Tide that will Lift All Boats. All the while Big Business has it handcuffed eight trillion ways to Sunday and back, so this free market doesn't even exist!

Conversely, anything that involves the government actually DOING ITS JOB of helping the Common Citizen in any way is strongly decried as Stalinist Communism of only the worst most genocidal sort.

Then when people wise up, the Media goes into overdrive with the 'Boo, War! Boo, Islamists! Boo, Queers! Boo, Fundies! Boo, Darkies! Boo, Crackers!' divide-and-conquer fucktardery to get our little subgroups nice and Balkanized instead of united against the real enemy of the Big Corporations. It doesn't help that our education systems have been deliberately sabotaged to make people more conducive to these kinds of rank manipulation.

NeoGoomba · Post by **NeoGoomba** » 2007-05-31 04:31pm

In corporate Amerika...BEEF TESTS YOU!!!

*crickets*

So is the corporate mindset here that as long as they don't thoroughly test their meat, they have plausible deniability when a strain of something pops up in their product?

Post by **Surlethe** » 2007-05-31 04:49pm

Stas Bush wrote:Seriously, I'm kind of wondering why America does not have a strong Dem-Soc/Soc-Dem party. It's very clear that smaller businesses are being fucked over by the corporations. They must be a great potent force for change... or are they? I mean, social democratic parties have expressed the interest of smaller enterprises and their workers since long, and how is that so America lacks any of it 15 past the fall of the USSR? Surely they must realize who supports their interests and who does not?

That logic about big corporations fucking over small ones by sheer mass of capital? It works exactly the same way with political parties. So while there are a ton of tiny parties that nobody's heard of, only the two major parties remain players in the political arena.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2007-05-31 04:59pm

Here's a thought I've had ever since I learned what prion diseases were, and how they are spread; how can we know that prion disease doesn't affect pork and poultry, as well? Especially considering what they're fed?
Chickens and pigs are, at least to my limited understanding, slaughtered before any symptoms would make themselves known.

Scared?

wolveraptor · Post by **wolveraptor** » 2007-05-31 05:03pm

Surely they must realize who supports their interests and who does not?

I don't know whether to cry or to laugh.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2007-05-31 05:08pm

NeoGoomba wrote:So is the corporate mindset here that as long as they don't thoroughly test their meat, they have plausible deniability when a strain of something pops up in their product?

Exactly.