[Maryland]We don't need no steenking Engineering licenses!

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[Maryland]We don't need no steenking Engineering licenses!

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This is more for Washingtonians and, well, because I want to take a swipe at Shep's county of residence.

Unlicensed engineer signed off on important construction for 50 years
Man claiming to be engineer may have signed off on important projects
by Dena Levitz, The Examiner

WASHINGTON (Map, News) - A man claiming to be an engineer has been working on major construction projects in Montgomery County and the greater D.C. area for nearly five decades without a professional license, according to Maryland authorities.

Milne Lee Sutherland of the Silver Spring firm Sutherland Associates describes himself in his 2007 resume as an engineer who has worked on major regional projects such as D.C.’s Veterans Hospital and the 2,000-acre residential community of Leisure World in Silver Spring.

He also listed himself as engineer in a host of smaller, preliminary plan applications for construction projects in Montgomery County, according to documents on file at Montgomery County Department of Parks and Planning’s offices.

Liz Williams, a spokeswoman for the Maryland Department of Labor and Licensing Regulations, told The Examiner that Sutherland is not licensed in any of the two dozen engineering-related fields for which her agency provides credentials.
Without an engineering license, Maryland law forbids anyone to call himself either a “professional engineer” or “engineer.” Doing so is a misdemeanor punishable by up to a $500 fine or six months in prison for each offense.

When reached by phone this week, Sutherland said he would not comment on his status as an engineer.

Top officials with Parks and Planning said Tuesday that they are aware Sutherland does not have a license. For that reason, his work must be signed off on by a licensed engineer, according to Gwen Wright, acting chief of the countywide planning division.

Up until a few years ago, though, planners were not vigorously checking plans against a list of state-licensed engineers, she said, so it’s possible Sutherland could have signed off on a plan as an engineer.

“I cannot tell you that there have been plans that came through that were not signed by a licensed engineer. We don’t know,” Wright said. “What we can tell you is that in the last several years we do have a heightened level of vigilance on this, and we would not accept a plan from Mr. Sutherland because we know he is not a licensed engineer.”

State Del. Herman Taylor, D-Montgomery County, told The Examiner that members of his staff independently concluded that Sutherland lacks the legal credentials to call himself an engineer. Taylor added that the case “has been the smoking gun to me” of serious deficiencies in the way Maryland National Capital Parks and Planning verifies construction permits, and that he believes all of Sutherland’s projects must now be reviewed for problems.

“Any reasonable-minded person would believe it would lead to a look at the integrity of other projects,” he said. “If you were having work done in your office, who would want to hire a person who’s not a licensed professional by the state of Maryland?”

According to Williams, a formal complaint has been lodged against Sutherland, which the labor and licensing department is investigating. She would not elaborate on her agency’s investigation because it is still open.

She said that the labor and licensing department’s power is limited to the scope of complaints leveled against a professional. So the only way her agency would order a full review of an unlicensed engineer’s projects would be if complaints specifically alluded to problems with the work.

The discovery that Sutherland has apparently been working without an engineering license was made by Ashton resident Steve Kanstoroom more than a year ago.

Kanstoroom told The Examiner that in the mid-1990s Sutherland did engineering work on his home, including topographic mapping and drainage studies. The work was somewhat faulty, he said. But Kanstoroom began inquiring about Sutherland’s expertise only when a number of Bethesda residents familiar with Kanstoroom’s prior work in fraud detection for the Department of Justice asked for his help.

In addition to finding plan applications that Sutherland signed under the heading of “engineer,” Kanstoroom also provided to The Examiner an affidavit from Sutherland’s former business partner, Jeffrey D. Lawrence, indicating that Sutherland has never been licensed.

Lawrence told The Examiner Tuesday that his former partner has no formal degrees or certifications.

However, Lawrence said, he was not aware of Sutherland signing documents as a professional engineer while the two worked together at Development Consultants Group between 1977 and 1995.

“We had a licensed engineer on staff, but your licensed engineer does not do all the work,” he said. “[Sutherland] did do some engineering work on projects.”

Sutherland’s 2007 resume uses the term “engineer” in his job description twice on the cover page.

The section listing off his major projects additionally states that he was the “project engineer” on Leisure World for five years. Other projects mentioned are White Flint Shopping Mall, D.C.’s Providence Hospital, D.C.’s Veterans Hospital and Takoma Park’s Adventist Hospital. The resume does not explicitly say whether Sutherland was an engineer on additions to these facilities. At this point there have been no reports of problems with any of these structures.

If you have more information about Montgomery County Parks and Planning or licensing requirements, call Dena Levitz at 202 459-4963.

Project Roster

M. Lee Sutherland, who has portrayed himself as an engineer even though he’s not licensed as one, has racked up a long list of area projects. His resume explains his roles in the following along with descriptions:

» White Flint Shopping Mall: “Coordination of the Metro System Construction cut and cover operation through the site and design of an underground stormwater and management detention system”

» Providence Hospital: “Addition of a new power plant, materials handling facility, kitchen area and associated site improvements”

» Veterans Hospital: “Addition of a 160-bed clinic, 750 car parking garages and nuclear medicine facility at existing hospital on North Capital Street, including utilities and landscape design”

Source: Sutherland’s resume, on file at Montgomery County Parks and Planning

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Out of curiosity, what would the punishment be on something like this?
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A very long time in jail, I would expect. Engineering nearly always means working on things that can harm people in some way if not done right, be it a conveyor belt or a structural support column for a skyscraper. Put it this way, if this was a doctor or surgeon operating for so long without proper accreditation, what do you think the uproar would be like? For kicks, imagine they're in pædiatrics.
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Indeed - Over here it would be more likely he would be found out by Trading Standards, fined a few hundred thousand quid, get a file sent to the CPS and chucked in the slammer for a decade,
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I recall when I was in DC we used to hire outside consultants to sign and bind designs we did in areas regulated by the state or fed. Still, I didn't even know that there was such a thing as engineering licensure was until I got back up the coast, I was a math guy and it never occurred to me that somebody on the payroll needed to hold responsibility on behalf of my employer.

Two pernicious acts stand out in this article. Mr. Sutherland seems to have offered his services directly to the public, services that may require licensure to perform. That directly colors the second bag of potatoes he's carrying, if he represented himself as an engineer in his resume to secure any of these jobs he's in clear violation of the law. On the other hand, if all Mr. Sutherland's work was done under the auspices of County Parks and Planning--specifically in the Kanstoroom case--and if someone either signed off on all of it or was supposed to and neglected to do so, then his resume on its own may not be a violation of law or ethics. The statute requires that he not represent himself to the public as an engineer, professional engineer, or licensed engineer. His job title may in fact be engineer, however, and his resume may only be intended to be viewed by an employer with the necessary licenses. If I remember correctly, that shouldn't amount to a violation of Maryland law or run afoul of professional ethics.
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Damn you lonestar!

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MKSheppard wrote:Damn you lonestar!

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*Joins in from across street*

This is almost as good as when the Maryland State Police crime lab had an investigator employed for 25+ years who didn't have a degree in Forensics.
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Well, whaddaya know? I live in Shep's county.
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This is the guy they want to use to win over "young people?" Are they completely daft? I'd rather vote for a pile of shit than a Jesus freak social regressive.
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