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The Right Wing Cult of Contrived Masculinity

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Glenn Greenwald is probably my No. 1 favorite blogger to read. In the aftermath of the Coulter "faggot" remark, some insightful points on the Republitard Masculinity Machine:

If it won't let you view it, just watch the ad, it takes like 2 seconds ...

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Coulter insisted last night that she did not intend the remark as an anti-gay slur -- that she did not intend to suggest that John Edwards, husband and father, was gay -- but instead only used the word as a "schoolyard taunt," to call him a sissy. And that is true. Her aim was not to suggest that Edwards is actually gay, but simply to feminize him like they do with all male Democratic or liberal political leaders.

For multiple reasons, nobody does that more effectively or audaciously than Coulter, which is why they need her so desperately and will never jettison her. How could they possibly shun her for engaging in tactics on which their entire movement depends? They cannot, which is why they are not and will not.

The converse of this is equally true. As critical as it is to them to feminize Democratic and liberal males (and to masculinize the women), even more important is to create false images of masculine power and strength around their authority figures. The reality of this masculine power is almost always non-existent. The imagery is what counts.

This works exactly the same as the images of moral purity that they work so hard to manufacture, whereby the leaders they embrace -- such as Gingrich, Limbaugh, Bill Bennett, even the divorced and estranged-from-his-children Ronald Reagan and Coulter herself -- are plauged by the most morally depraved and reckless personal lives, yet still parade around as the heroes of the "Values Voters." Just as what matters is that their leaders prance around as moral leaders (even while deviating as far as they want from those standards), what matters to them also is that their leaders play-act as strong and masculine figures, even when there is no basis, no reality, to the play-acting.

Ronald Reagan never got anywhere near the military war (claiming eyesight difficulties to avoid deployment in World War II), and he spent his life as a Hollywood actor, not a rancher, yet to this day, conservatives swoon over his masculine role-playing as though he is some sort of super-brave military hero. Meanwhile, Jimmy Carter, who actually graduated the Naval Academy and was assigned to real live nuclear submarines, is mocked as a weak and snivelling coward who should not have a ship named after him.

And the ultimate expression of faux, empty, masculine courage and power is, of course, the Commander-in-Chief himself -- the Glorious Leader whom John Podhoretz hailed in the title of his worshippful cult book as The First Great Leader of the 21st Century -- with the ranch hats and brush-clearing pants and flight-suit outfits that would make the Village People seethe with jealousy over his costume choices. Just behold this poster which was a much in-demand item at past CPAC events (h/t Digby), which makes as clear as can be how these Bush followers have tried to idolize their Leader:
Cue absurd picture of Bush as a ridiculously muscular Uncle Sam type character.
That laughable absurdity really reveals the heart of this movement. It is a cult of contrived masculinity whereby people dress up as male archtypes like cowboys, ranchers, and tough guys even though they are nothing of the kind -- or prance around as Churchillian warriors because they write from a safe and protected distance about how great war is -- and in the process become triumphant heroes and masculine powerful icons and strong leaders. They and their followers triumph over the weak, effete, humiliated Enemy, and thereby become powerful and exceptional and safe.

The second-most astonishing political fact over the last six years -- after the permanently jaw-dropping and incomparably disgraceful fact that 70% of Americans believed as late as September, 2003 (6 months after the invasion) that Saddam Hussein personally participated in the planning of the 9/11 attacks (a fact which, by itself, profoundly indicts all of our political and media instititutions at once) -- is that the 2004 presidential candidate who actually volunteered to fight, in actual combat, in the Vietnam jungle was the one depicted as the weak subversive coward, while the candidate who used every family connection possible to avoid ever fighting was depicted as the brave, masculine, fighter-warrior who had the backbone to stand down the Evil Enemies and protect us all.

That is why so many of them who have never been anywhere near the military -- and will never go near it even as their wars are endangered by a lack of volunteers -- have a monomanical obsession with military glory, with contant displays of how "resolute" and "courageous" they are, with notions of forced "submission" and "humiliation" of their opponents (just take notice of how central a role those concepts play in neoconservative "arguments"), and with depicting those who oppose the wars they cheer on as "cowards" (even when the cowards in question are decorated Marines with 30 years of service).
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It's called "living vicariously". People think that if they wank the military, then this makes them tougher themselves. Perhaps even tougher than those who have actually been there, if those veterans don't wank the military hard enough.

It's a lot like sports. Ever notice that a lot of overweight, sedentary sports fans act as though the act of cheering on a successful athlete or sports team somehow connects them to his success? Notice how they look down on people who are into things like sci-fi and fantasy because those are "geeky" pursuits which "real men" aren't interested in, as if the act of WATCHING football on a TV screen somehow osmotically transfers the football players' steroid-enhanced strength and aggression to yourself?
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Entirely unsurprising; the entire Conservative movement is based on fear. Fear of Others, fear of social change, fear of less profits, fear of shadows that move a bit too quick.

They have to create chariactures of masculinity and bravery to protect them from the big bad bogeymen.
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I think it's more complex than that. Experiments with apes have shown that they value pictures of the alpha male. There is a primitive instinct within us that makes us feel like we are stronger if we follow a strong leader, and stupid people are ruled more by instinct than intellect.
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It's more style over substance, as is unsurprising of politics. And a caricature is far easier to understand and accept than the real thing.
Darth Wong wrote:Ever notice that a lot of overweight, sedentary sports fans act as though the act of cheering on a successful athlete or sports team somehow connects them to his success? Notice how they look down on people who are into things like sci-fi and fantasy because those are "geeky" pursuits which "real men" aren't interested in, as if the act of WATCHING football on a TV screen somehow osmotically transfers the football players' steroid-enhanced strength and aggression to yourself?
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It's funny Mike should mention that about overweight sports fans- yesterday I was reading the sports section of the Daily Telepgraph (a worthless Australian Rupert Murdoch rag, but it's the only one that fits on the table in the cafe I have lunch in) and lo and behold was a picture of an infamous obese loudmouth fan caught on camera hurling abuse to the face of an AFL player of the rival team (ie. paragon of fitness, speed and strength).

I wonder if he knew how ridiculous he looked.

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and here's the picture!

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(the background is basically this retard, part of the "official cheer squad" for the Eagles, was hurling abuse at the Swans player, O'Loughlin, throughout the game. The Swans won the game, and O'Loughlin got his own back by confronting this shitstain and cursing him out for a change)
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That is why so many of them who have never been anywhere near the military -- and will never go near it even as their wars are endangered by a lack of volunteers -- have a monomaniacal obsession with military glory, with constant displays of how "resolute" and "courageous" they are, with notions of forced "submission" and "humiliation" of their opponents (just take notice of how central a role those concepts play in neoconservative "arguments"), and with depicting those who oppose the wars they cheer on as "cowards" (even when the cowards in question are decorated Marines with 30 years of service).
That reminds me of 2 things.

The 1st is that I've been waiting a LONG time to post this image.
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The 2nd for some reason is the Onion article on how Rumsfeld flew to Iraq briefly to have sex with his wife "with the penis you have, not the penis you want."

It's surreal to look back at my own enlistment in the context of this thread. I talked to my recruiter in ... September 2003, the time frame coincided my happening upon this websight. Long story short, I signed up as a very different person than I am now. I'm no longer a chickenhawk or a Conservative (though technically I am still a Republican :wink: ) but what of my Conservative kindred spirits? For all I know, they're kicking back, smoking a pipe and toeing the tough-guy Party line.

Not that I regret signing up, not at all. I mean, the military doesn't start wars, men that God speaks to do.
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You know what other culture is obsessed with self-conscious displays of masculinity? Hip-hoppers and youth gangs.

That's right, George W. Bush is fucking Tupac Shakur. Saddam dissed Bush and his homies, so he go ta Iraq and bust a cap in dem asses.
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Post by Dennis Toy »

don't diss 2pac foo' he was the greas' rappa'. He was betta than Biggie'


Serously 2pac probably wouldn't have made a stupid decision like going to war with a country like Iraq. In some of his songs, he actually preached against war. For example in the 1992 hit "I don't give a fuck"

Just can't understand why we getting respect now
Mama told me there be days like this
But I'm pissed cause it stays like this
And now they trying to send me off to Kuwait
Gimme a break
How much shit can a nigga take

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They got money for wars, but can't feed the poor


see 2pac was against unnecessary wars.
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I personally liked these verses from his song "Changes" more:

And still I see no changes can't a brother get a little peace
It's war on the streets & the war in the Middle East
Instead of war on poverty they got a war on drugs
so the police can bother me
And I ain't never did a crime I ain't have to do
But now I'm back with the facts givin' it back to you
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Well, you two rap fans have certainly ignored the point, haven't you? Would you like to talk about fucking rap music some more, or would you like to talk about the goddamned subject of this thread?
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Cue revprez....

Ironic that Conservatives are trying to portray themselves as more masculine, but Rush Limbaugh has bigger tits than any democrat i've seen for a long time.
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DW dude, we were talking about this subject. You stated that President Bush was like 2pac going to bust caps in middle east ass and i said that 2pac didn't like war. I was saying is that 2pac wouldn't be as stupid as Bush.
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Dennis Toy wrote:DW dude, we were talking about this subject. You stated that President Bush was like 2pac going to bust caps in middle east ass and i said that 2pac didn't like war. I was saying is that 2pac wouldn't be as stupid as Bush.
I don't give a fuck about 2pac! It was just a random rapper name I threw out to add colour to the point, you goddamned idiot. That wasn't the point of my post at all.
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Darth Wong wrote:You know what other culture is obsessed with self-conscious displays of masculinity? Hip-hoppers and youth gangs.

That's right, George W. Bush is fucking Tupac Shakur. Saddam dissed Bush and his homies, so he go ta Iraq and bust a cap in dem asses.
There's that Thar mentality yet again.

And Dennis Toy, you are a fucking goddamn moronic idiot. My late mother could keep the thread on-subject during one of her epileptic fits and high on eight different drugs. Hell, she can do it now lying in her grave. This has nothing to do with 2pac or Biggie specifically, it just shows they, Bush, conservatives, and religious nutbars have a disturbing commonality in value systems.

Idiot. :roll:
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Darth Wong wrote:You know what other culture is obsessed with self-conscious displays of masculinity? Hip-hoppers and youth gangs.

That's right, George W. Bush is fucking 50 Cent. Saddam dissed Bush and his homies, so he go ta Iraq and bust a cap in dem asses.


There, fixed it. Now let's get back to the subject.
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Dennis Toy wrote:see 2pac was against unnecessary wars.
So is Dubya. . .just ask him. Of course, the problem is in the definition of "unnecessary wars".
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