havokeff wrote:Honestly? I could give two fucks if they don't extradite our criminals that make it there. They are off our streets, out of our system and out of our pocket books. Good ridance.
Then why are you bothering to defend Chapman for going into Mexico and bringing Luster back? After all, he was off our streets, out of our system, and out of our pocket books. If Chapman hadn't gone after him or the Mexican authorities refused to extradite him, he'd be Mexico's problem.
Other than piece of minds for victim's family and such, why the hell would we want them back.
You know what, you're totally right. We should let rapists and child pornographers run off to Mexico, and instead of prison, they can relax on the beach in Cancun. That's justice.
And the Mexican Police? Those crooked fucks would be just as likely to let Factor go if he gave them enough dough as they would be to turn him over to us.
I'm sure you have proof of this, right?
Also, if bounty hunting without a permit was the only law the Mexican BH broke in order to bring a convicted rapist to justice and get him off OUR streets and then we wanted him sent back here to be put in jail for it? Yes, I would be just as upset because my Un-Common sense meter would be going through the roof just like it is now.
Try kidnapping and illegal detention, which are felonies. That's what Chapman is charged with in Mexico (never mind the bail jumping).
Look, I understand the legality of the situation,
I don't think you do, actually.
and you can hand me my ass on the facts until the cows come home, and I know you will. It doesn't change the fact that this is just bullshit.
Where and how is this bullshit? Mexico has outlawed bounty hunting. What Chapman did was nothing but vigilantism, which is against the law everywhere for a damn good reason. The fact that this time he caught a monster doesn't change that, any more than it would an excuse a cop who used excessive force in the arrest of a dangerous fugitive. The law applies to everyone or it's worthless. Leniancy in
sentencing is a possibility considering the circumstances, though Chapman didn't help himself there by jumping bail (I'll leave the irony of a bounty hunter jumping bail for others to contemplate).
We should say; Okay Mexico, you let this one slide and the 45th time the Peso needs to be bailed out, we've got your back.
Cute. Or we could honor our extradition treaty with our neighbor like they have dozens of times in the last few years.
Sidethought: I wonder how many border hoppers that have succesfully crossed into the US have criminal records? I bet Mexico isn't saying word one about getting them back to stand trial.
Between 2001 and 2003, we extradited 46 fugitives to Mexico; they extradited 72 in the same time period. Once again, if you're claiming something about the Mexican government (that they're quietly letting people charged with serious criminal offenses slip over the border), I invite you to provide proof.
UCBooties wrote:Once again, was an extradition request made to Mexico for Luster and what was Mexico's response. We can hardly argue that extraditing Chapman will ensure future extradition if thier refusal of such a request started the whole mess
It's on the people making the claim that Chapman's actions should be excused to prove Mexico had refused an extradition request. There are problems in the Mexican criminal justice system that have caused them to refuse or drag their feet on extradition requests before, and they won't extradite someone facing the death penalty, but they've still extradited scores of figutives in the last few years alone and no evidence has been presented that they were refusing to extradite Luster.
