The Kitties vs. the Snakes

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2005-10-08 12:39pm

setting post stone dogs, the alliance is en-route to alpha centaria, the Snakes have suffered very heavy losses, but are mostly in control of the solar system, The Kzin scout ships arrive three hundred years ahead of schedual. the Kitties have their inertial dampening fields, and their superior fusion drive, compared to the Draka's fission drive.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2005-10-08 12:45pm

From what S.M. Sterling was telling me about space-draka ground technology, I'm fairly certain that ground battles would be a totally one sided curbstomp in the draka's favour.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2005-10-08 01:31pm

we're talking intial control of space at the one time the draka's space forces are 99% castrated

Typhonis 1 · Post by **Typhonis 1** » 2005-10-08 02:07pm

Against someone who isn`t suffering from terminal stupidity I supose and the kitties have telepaths aboard their ships to scan the enemy crews minds.

jareth1138 · Post by **jareth1138** » 2005-10-08 02:39pm

Not to be rude or anything, but what the heck are you guys talking about???

Elheru Aran · Post by **Elheru Aran** » 2005-10-08 02:56pm

jareth1138 wrote:Not to be rude or anything, but what the heck are you guys talking about???

Draka, from S.M. Stirling's stories, and the Kzin, from Larry Niven. Look them up-- Google should suffice.

Aktariel · Post by **Aktariel** » 2005-10-08 03:33pm

Depends...snakes win in a ground war. It's hard to think of Chuft Captain winning against Gwen...

Kzin win in space...no matter how much I think they suck (they always attack before they are ready..), they are much more advanced in spacefaring technology

Crossroads Inc. · Post by **Crossroads Inc.** » 2005-10-08 08:09pm

Hrmm, Can someone give me some more info on the "Snakes" I would like to know what I'm up against before saying just how much the kittens would win... Oh, and technically they are called the "EVIL" instead of just "Kittens"

...mew...

Lancer · Post by **Lancer** » 2005-10-08 08:16pm

"Snakes" are just another name for Draka

Crossroads Inc. · Post by **Crossroads Inc.** » 2005-10-08 08:20pm

Um, Repeat previous statment?

Imperial Overlord · Post by **Imperial Overlord** » 2005-10-08 08:29pm

NecronLord wrote:From what S.M. Sterling was telling me about space-draka ground technology, I'm fairly certain that ground battles would be a totally one sided curbstomp in the draka's favour.

Could you share some of those details? I, for one, would certainly like to know and they would help settle the monthly "draka vs. somebody else" threads we tend to get in this forum.

speaker-to-trolls · Post by **speaker-to-trolls** » 2005-10-09 05:24am

Just how castrated is the Drakian space fleet?
Once/if the Kzin engage the Draka on the ground they are in for a very painful war of attrition. As shown spectacularly in the story The Wunder War, Kzinti suck at terrestrial warfare, anyone with automatic weapons could hold out against a first-invasion period kzinti army until Judgement Day. The problem is when they get bored of their unarmoured troops being massacred they tend to just nuke the offending site from orbit.
I predict much nuking.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2005-10-09 05:41am

Imperial Overlord wrote:Could you share some of those details? I, for one, would certainly like to know and they would help settle the monthly "draka vs. somebody else" threads we tend to get in this forum.

I was kinda hoping he'd show up in this thread. He's got an account here after all.

joatsimeon wrote:
NecronLord wrote:"So, I think it would be interesting, if you're actually sure of how such things are supposed to work, to know something a bit more quantifiable about this. Would these be some kind of minature fission devices?
-- antimatter-powered energy beams, and antimatter grenades in ranges up to a quarter-kilotonne or so.

Also, if you actually have details, what kind of hurt can these armour suits actually take?
-- I couldn't give you figures, I'm afraid. It's essentialy a skin of memet -- memory metal, a single giant molecule which can assume a number of different states, including perfectly reflective and perfectly rigid. It's harder than a sheet of diamond, and vastly stronger.

You couldn't pierce it with anything short of a fusion-bomb pumped X-ray laser; though of course, damaging the person inside is easier!

[...]

Steve Stirling

Imperial Overlord · Post by **Imperial Overlord** » 2005-10-09 06:19am

Went that sounds "city savaging" to me Necron. Thanks. Considering that the good mister Stirling wrote some of the Man-Kzin Wars as well as the Draka, I think he's the one in the best position to comment on this particular hypothetical contest.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2005-10-09 09:38am

NecronLord wrote:
Imperial Overlord wrote:Could you share some of those details? I, for one, would certainly like to know and they would help settle the monthly "draka vs. somebody else" threads we tend to get in this forum.
I was kinda hoping he'd show up in this thread. He's got an account here after all.

joatsimeon wrote:
NecronLord wrote:"So, I think it would be interesting, if you're actually sure of how such things are supposed to work, to know something a bit more quantifiable about this. Would these be some kind of minature fission devices?
-- antimatter-powered energy beams, and antimatter grenades in ranges up to a quarter-kilotonne or so.

Also, if you actually have details, what kind of hurt can these armour suits actually take?
-- I couldn't give you figures, I'm afraid. It's essentialy a skin of memet -- memory metal, a single giant molecule which can assume a number of different states, including perfectly reflective and perfectly rigid. It's harder than a sheet of diamond, and vastly stronger.

You couldn't pierce it with anything short of a fusion-bomb pumped X-ray laser; though of course, damaging the person inside is easier!

[...]

Steve Stirling

erm that was DRAKON ERA not STONE DOGS era

LordShaithis · Post by **LordShaithis** » 2005-10-09 11:04pm

Wait, the guy who wrote the Draka and (I thinK) those Terminator books has an account at SD.net?

Post by **fgalkin** » 2005-10-09 11:07pm

LordShaithis wrote:Wait, the guy who wrote the Draka and (I thinK) those Terminator books has an account at SD.net?

Yes, Prawn. S.M. Stirling does indeed have an account here. Doesn't post much, though.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2005-10-10 12:06am

should we inform prawn that Brian Young, Curtis Saxton, and Lowtax all have accounts here too.

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