And advocating that their government should prevent others from practicing theirs.Ahurazithramis wrote:I'm not saying they don't have the freedom to worship what they want. I'm just describing my religion.
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Spells are always spirituality which is derived from something opposing God.Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:And tell me ONCE AGAIN FROM THE TOP. HOW IS SPELL CASTING DIFFERENT FROM PRAYER?!Ahurazithramis wrote:Putting a bloody piece of meat in the ocean with swimmers around it for the sharks to eat is the same as eating a piece of bread near the water? When you cast spells, it is the same as throwing the bloody piece of meat in the water while the people are feet away from it.
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No, thats attempted murder, I believe. Totally different from "casting spells".Ahurazithramis wrote:Putting a bloody piece of meat in the ocean with swimmers around it for the sharks to eat is the same as eating a piece of bread near the water? When you cast spells, it is the same as throwing the bloody piece of meat in the water while the people are feet away from it.
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To go with your earlier pressing on statement and analogy, throwing bloody meat in the water next to the swimmer the shark is chewing on would be a good thing, as it would distract it.Ahurazithramis wrote:Putting a bloody piece of meat in the ocean with swimmers around it for the sharks to eat is the same as eating a piece of bread near the water? When you cast spells, it is the same as throwing the bloody piece of meat in the water while the people are feet away from it.
And your spells would be even more dangerous. If earth is domain of the devil as you claim, you would be summoning the sharks to the wiccians, instead of distracting them. You are putting together a rather good argument that, instead of banishing all religion from the courtroom like I first thought, we should banish christianity in favor of wiccian.
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Not if you don't believe that the shark is attracted to the meat.Aya wrote:No, thats attempted murder, I believe. Totally different from "casting spells".Ahurazithramis wrote:Putting a bloody piece of meat in the ocean with swimmers around it for the sharks to eat is the same as eating a piece of bread near the water? When you cast spells, it is the same as throwing the bloody piece of meat in the water while the people are feet away from it.
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Prove to me in a scientifically-verifiable way that this thing you refer to as 'God' exists and has the properties you describe. Then AND ONLY then will I believe you. Occam's Razor is with me and against you.Ahurazithramis wrote:Spells are always spirituality which is derived from something opposing God.Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:And tell me ONCE AGAIN FROM THE TOP. HOW IS SPELL CASTING DIFFERENT FROM PRAYER?!Ahurazithramis wrote:Putting a bloody piece of meat in the ocean with swimmers around it for the sharks to eat is the same as eating a piece of bread near the water? When you cast spells, it is the same as throwing the bloody piece of meat in the water while the people are feet away from it.
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Wait, earlier you said all things were spiritual. God is everywhere, and all things. So according to you, God is opposed to God?Ahurazithramis wrote:Spells are always spirituality which is derived from something opposing God.Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:And tell me ONCE AGAIN FROM THE TOP. HOW IS SPELL CASTING DIFFERENT FROM PRAYER?!Ahurazithramis wrote:Putting a bloody piece of meat in the ocean with swimmers around it for the sharks to eat is the same as eating a piece of bread near the water? When you cast spells, it is the same as throwing the bloody piece of meat in the water while the people are feet away from it.
Wow, I'm really smart, God holds the same opinions I do!
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Neither does spellcasting BECAUSE DEMONS DO NOT EXIST NOR DO THEY POSSESS ANYTHING.Ahurazithramis wrote:Prayers don't open people up to demonic possession.Slartibartfast wrote:And advocating that their government should prevent others from practicing theirs.Ahurazithramis wrote:I'm not saying they don't have the freedom to worship what they want. I'm just describing my religion.
And I've got 22. Prayers and spells are identical. Both are expressions of hope that some outside force will accomplish something for them. No difference.Ahurazithramis wrote:I've known my religion for 15 years. Believe me I have experience with prayer.Slartibartfast wrote:To anyone else with an objective view, they are as much as spells and summonings and conjurations as any other religion's.Ahurazithramis wrote:Christian prayers are not spells.
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Hmm, is that a big fat RED HERRING I smell in the water? <SHARK>CHOMP!</SHARK>Ahurazithramis wrote:Not if you don't believe that the shark is attracted to the meat.Aya wrote:No, thats attempted murder, I believe. Totally different from "casting spells".Ahurazithramis wrote:Putting a bloody piece of meat in the ocean with swimmers around it for the sharks to eat is the same as eating a piece of bread near the water? When you cast spells, it is the same as throwing the bloody piece of meat in the water while the people are feet away from it.
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Yes they do, and I say so, because I have personal evidence.Ahurazithramis wrote:Prayers don't open people up to demonic possession.Slartibartfast wrote:And advocating that their government should prevent others from practicing theirs.Ahurazithramis wrote:I'm not saying they don't have the freedom to worship what they want. I'm just describing my religion.
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Appeal to Authority. Sorry, that doesn't work around here. Enjoy your spiffy new CT.Ahurazithramis wrote:I've known my religion for 15 years. Believe me I have experience with prayer.Slartibartfast wrote:To anyone else with an objective view, they are as much as spells and summonings and conjurations as any other religion's.Ahurazithramis wrote:Christian prayers are not spells.
From the point of view of the wiccians, what exactly would speaking in tongues and other thigs be then? Christians say its God controling them and working through them, sounds like possession to me.Ahurazithramis wrote:Prayers don't open people up to demonic possession.Slartibartfast wrote:And advocating that their government should prevent others from practicing theirs.Ahurazithramis wrote:I'm not saying they don't have the freedom to worship what they want. I'm just describing my religion.
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Would you agree to keeping the Bible and Christian prayer out of courthouses if it meant keeping other religions such as Wicca out? A lot of people would prefer to have nobody praying there over having everybody pray there. Arguments about which religions are right and wrong aside, the issue at hand is that the government is playing favorites, which it isn't supposed to do.
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Which is bullshit. Everyone knows Sharks are attracted to blood. Worst.analogy.ever.Ahurazithramis wrote:Not if you don't believe that the shark is attracted to the meat.Aya wrote:No, thats attempted murder, I believe. Totally different from "casting spells".Ahurazithramis wrote:Putting a bloody piece of meat in the ocean with swimmers around it for the sharks to eat is the same as eating a piece of bread near the water? When you cast spells, it is the same as throwing the bloody piece of meat in the water while the people are feet away from it.
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LMAO!Slartibartfast wrote:Yes they do, and I say so, because I have personal evidence.Ahurazithramis wrote:Prayers don't open people up to demonic possession.Slartibartfast wrote: And advocating that their government should prevent others from practicing theirs.
The only relationship between prayer and Evil is that certain people are Evil and HIDE BEHIND PRAYER TO APPEAR 'GOOD'.
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A free bit of wisdom for you chuckles: If we are having such an easy time swapping out the views between you and the wiccians, its not because we are evil spirits who are doing the devils work. It's because we long ago realized all religions, no matter what the believe in, have the smae basic structure to them. Which means that fundamentally, you are all the same. Or, you may disagree if its a comma or a flyspeck on verse umptysquat or whatever and thus think someone else is your mortal enemy and trying to bring you to evil, but really you are not at all different in structure and core beliefs.
Which is why being oppossed to another belief system is such bullshit.
Which is why being oppossed to another belief system is such bullshit.
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