Can a lightsaber cut through adamantium?

[Ghost Rider]

Y'know I love that Eframe goes and answer something that really it becomes quite funny.

The question isn't "Can a Lightsaber instantly cut through adamantium?"

It's "Will it?"

Now, let's see if the brigade can answer this without stumbling over their own cum stained keyboards.

[The Yosemite Bear]

nice to see smart asses can't say notice the time I posted, notice that the "o" and "p" are right next to each other on a "QWERTY" type keyboard, and figure out that while I was typing really fast before crashing for the night I just might have committed one of the most common typing errors?

no, I am not wanking GR I am saying that:

1. The altered molecular structure of adamantium has an obscenely high thermal resistance, various deaths of Ultron models and Wolverine have established that.

2. It's horribly vulnewrable to magnetics, Polarius, Magneto, and Ironman have pwned Adamantium wielding foes before.

3. Wolverine's bones are NOT TRUE ADAMANTIUM FANBOIS since the same process that reconstruction era Lord Darkwind invented that was used on Bullseye, Sabertooth, and Wolverine, has been shown to be penetratable, given that Daredevil could commence with an assreaming of an adamantium skeletoned Bullseye, and adamantium enhanced sabertooth got shook around pretty well too.

[Ghost Rider]

nice to see smart asses can't say notice the time I posted, notice that the "o" and "p" are right next to each other on a "QWERTY" type keyboard, and figure out that while I was typing really fast before crashing for the night I just might have committed one of the most common typing errors?

no, I am not wanking GR I am saying that:

1. The altered molecular structure of adamantium has an obscenely high thermal resistance, various deaths of Ultron models and Wolverine have established that.

2. It's horribly vulnewrable to magnetics, Polarius, Magneto, and Ironman have pwned Adamantium wielding foes before.

3. Wolverine's bones are NOT TRUE ADAMANTIUM FANBOIS since the same process that reconstruction era Lord Darkwind invented that was used on Bullseye, Sabertooth, and Wolverine, has been shown to be penetratable, given that Daredevil could commence with an assreaming of an adamantium skeletoned Bullseye, and adamantium enhanced sabertooth got shook around pretty well too.

I'm glad you can read YB, because where have I gone that

1. That's good, care to back that up that saying the Lightsaber will never cut through it? You do know that argument is nothing more then a fucking goddamn fallacy? Or are you so fucking intent to proving you know shit, you forgot what the opening post was refering to that the Lightsaber will NEVER cut through it. Gee, I'm glad we got this established.

2. And Magnetics have shit to do with the lightsaber's thermal properties again how?

3. And I'm glad that I said people are wanking to Wolverine's Adamantium Skeleton...glad you're telling me this.

So...I ask again..."Will a Lightsaber cut through Adamantium?"

[The Yosemite Bear]

of course

now how fast unknown?

It does have an upper limit to it's tolerances, that has been shown, note that the upper limit after it's cooled and it's altered it's molecular structure has been shown to be greater then then the instantaneous blast from a nuclear device.

however given time and the obscenly high energy generation of starwars tech, (blaster's blowing mansized chunks apart of reinforced landingbay concrete, yet taking several minutes to cut through the same blast doors that lightsabers can in seconds) It's an ineviability.

technically it's a question of the density of the adamantium, and the time involved. now if we're talking wolverine's claws. He'd defect them in a comicbook, but in any realistic situation wolverine charging say darth maul would result in wolverine getting flung by TK, and then having a lightsaber vaporizing his intestines.

[The Yosemite Bear]

Also since Adamantium is a ferrus and conductive material, while wolverine's claws can probably not reach deformation temp at the first encounter with a light saber, the rest of his mostly water encasement can't say the same. Since it's shown to be a conductive materiall (ultron's body being unharmed, but every piece of electronics inside, being all melty) then the thermal energy from the lightsaber would flashboil Wolverine's arm, while I would say the mere fact that the claws and skeleton can survive a 1 megaton blast unsceatherd, would grant the material at least that level of resistance to say a fractional of a second parry against a lightsaber, the rest of him can't

[Ghost Rider]

And honestly YB...I don't think a single person is saying otherwise.

The original point was, whether or not could a lightsaber do it, and Marvel fanboys screaming "Never!!"

Not can a lightsaber do it in .3 of a second.

[The Yosemite Bear]

Also my statement about magnetic properties and the low magnetic threshold for adamantium being a factor, also figures in retrospect in that, a lightsaber DOES have magnetic properties, and a powerful electromagnetic field. how else does one explain it's secondary use deflecting ENERGY weapons

[The Yosemite Bear]

technically I had originally intended to stay out of this arguement

however one of my ASVS friends dragged me into it, at first asking me what the upper limit's of adamantium that was established within the comic history were, and how well did it fare against other things....

[The Yosemite Bear]

on a side note years ago I posted what if Darth Maul replaced the Toad short battle humour post, around the time which X men one came out.

which basically featured, deflect cyclops eyebeams into jean grey killing her, Cych goes nut's with grief, Wolverine kills Cych, Force chokes, storm, activates other blade, and decapitates wolverine with lightsaber throw, cutting easily between veretebre.

[Stravo]

And let's not stumble over ourselves regarding the tensile strength of adamnatium either. In Future Imperfect The Maestro's cybernetic hounds' jaws were rated at being able to snap a bar of Adamantiujm in .7 seconds. The Hulk survived being bitten by those beasties IIRC.

[The Yosemite Bear]

Gaurdians of the Galaxy Deathbird and Wolvies child suceeded in snapping those claws off of dear old dad, and then cutting open his neck with them.

[Eframepilot]

Y'know I love that Eframe goes and answer something that really it becomes quite funny.

The question isn't "Can a Lightsaber instantly cut through adamantium?"

It's "Will it?"

Could a lightsaber cut through adamantium eventually? Sure, why not. But not in any reasonable length of time in a battle situation. A butter knife (or an infinite supply of butter knives) could cut through a wall of diamond, given enough time.

Basically, adamantium is usually portrayed as being more resistant to any sort of damage than Superman. There are a large number of instances where creatures of around the Hulk's strength have broken it, but most of them are retconned away as being secondary adamantium, which is supposed to be much weaker.

[Styphon]

And honestly YB...I don't think a single person is saying otherwise.

The original point was, whether or not could a lightsaber do it, and Marvel fanboys screaming "Never!!"

Not can a lightsaber do it in .3 of a second.

A) I'm not a Marvel fanboy
B) I only started screaming when people started talking about a cut and filleted Wolverine within five seconds of the start of a fight

[The Yosemite Bear]

IIRC she also has mom's Sha9ir lightsaber rip off which I think is how she cut his claws off

[Ghost Rider]

And honestly YB...I don't think a single person is saying otherwise.

The original point was, whether or not could a lightsaber do it, and Marvel fanboys screaming "Never!!"

Not can a lightsaber do it in .3 of a second.

A) I'm not a Marvel fanboy
B) I only started screaming when people started talking about a cut and filleted Wolverine within five seconds of the start of a fight

Then don't make a strawman defense and being a fucktard in your opening argument dumbass.

Or do you remember this?

ugh... you people realize you're arguing against a no limits fallacy with ANOTHER NO LIMITS FALLACY?

"oh, it's stupid that adamantium is completely invincible... Lightsabers cut through anything, roxxors!!"

to rephrase in less insulting terms... just because adamantium can be melted doesn't mean a lightsaber can do it...

[Styphon]

And honestly YB...I don't think a single person is saying otherwise.

The original point was, whether or not could a lightsaber do it, and Marvel fanboys screaming "Never!!"

Not can a lightsaber do it in .3 of a second.

A) I'm not a Marvel fanboy
B) I only started screaming when people started talking about a cut and filleted Wolverine within five seconds of the start of a fight

Then don't make a strawman defense and being a fucktard in your opening argument dumbass.

Or do you remember this?

ugh... you people realize you're arguing against a no limits fallacy with ANOTHER NO LIMITS FALLACY?

"oh, it's stupid that adamantium is completely invincible... Lightsabers cut through anything, roxxors!!"

to rephrase in less insulting terms... just because adamantium can be melted doesn't mean a lightsaber can do it...

I remember it perfectly as it was a legitimate point.

[Ghost Rider]

A) I'm not a Marvel fanboy
B) I only started screaming when people started talking about a cut and filleted Wolverine within five seconds of the start of a fight

Then don't make a strawman defense and being a fucktard in your opening argument dumbass.

Or do you remember this?

ugh... you people realize you're arguing against a no limits fallacy with ANOTHER NO LIMITS FALLACY?

"oh, it's stupid that adamantium is completely invincible... Lightsabers cut through anything, roxxors!!"

to rephrase in less insulting terms... just because adamantium can be melted doesn't mean a lightsaber can do it...

I remember it perfectly as it was a legitimate point.

I see so STRAWMANNING is a legitimate point?

I'm sorry, if you can't grasp logic, but if you want to accept that as point, I can then label you as moron and be done with it all.

Because unless you can PROVE your second part, you were blithering. But nope, I don't remember this being shown either.

[NecronLord]

A lightsaber however, can melt through blast doors designed to stop energy weapons, and eventually cut through armor designed to stop Star Wars weapon fire.

An E-11 on full power can melt through a thick (at least half a foot) door of the same material. Blast doors don't hold out too well against stutained fire. They're simply there to slow one down during the time needed to get defenders ready, and of course, to allow sections of the ship to be sealed off in the event of a breach.

I have little doubt that it could withstand a glancing blow (The Emperor's Throne Room railings could do that) but to determine the amount of adamantium a saber could melt per second, its heat of fusion will be needed.

[Meest]

Why is it everytime just the word Adamantium is used it invokes complete invunerablity no matter what the thickness or size. So if I tried to parry a lightsabre with an Adamantium laced toothpick it would hold out at all? Wolverine's claws are thin and his skeleton is laced not solid.



According to that, his claws are half a millimeter thick, I don't think that'll be much resistance. I don't have info on his skeleton, but I'm guessing it's a cm thick at most (it's listed his skeleton weighs an extra 100 pounds).

And honestly YB...I don't think a single person is saying otherwise.

The original point was, whether or not could a lightsaber do it, and Marvel fanboys screaming "Never!!"

Not can a lightsaber do it in .3 of a second.

A) I'm not a Marvel fanboy
B) I only started screaming when people started talking about a cut and filleted Wolverine within five seconds of the start of a fight

How many times have we see Wolverine who is a "master" of several arts just charge in taking damage on his way to his target. He's not going to have to time to be reckless with a lightsabre slash, his claws are going to be gone or disabled.