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Inu-Yasha vs. Buffy

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At first, I was thinking Sango Vs. Buffy. I decided to take it a step further.
Here are the guidelines:

Inu-Yasha's group Vs. The Scooby Gang
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Current strength and skill level
TV incarnations
No mention of movies, comics, or manga unless it translates to the show


Have fun with it. :twisted: I've already formed my opinion, but I'll leave the rest to you.
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Tetseiga pwns. Especially after the last episode on Cartoon Network. The Wind Tunnel also makes this overkill.
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Hmm, powerful arrows and strategy (Kagoma); windtunnels, knowledge, and stave fighting (... damn my brain and that chem/span/calc homework I just did); long fighting ability, swords ability, dodging (sango), illusions (shipo); big, flying, flaming cat (kilala); and superfast, superstrong, super durable, superagile, with claws and tetsiaga (Inuyasha)... versus Buffy and other teen angst, wood jabbing, piss poor melee weapon using, lame duck kung fu fighting group... you've got to be kidding me...
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Buffy: Super Strength, Speed, agility, fighting skills, regeneration.
Xander: Super carpentery, nagotiation skills
Willow: Witch...who, if she would let her self, could be a very dangerous opponent.
Giles: Arcane knowledge, provide information on what they are dealing with. Plus, he's no push over either.
Dawn: another target.
Anya: Former Vengance Demon (IE: "Is that you Inuyasha?" "Anyanka?!")
4+ SIT's: Above average human fighters.
Spike: Vampire

That being said. Larz's analysis of the Scoobies is indeed, Piss Poor. They would still lose, in the end (unless Willow goes Black (unlikely), at which point "Sucky Sucky" to all magic users), they would put up a pretty good fight, though given a small numerical advantage, two magic users, two strong fighters, and 5+ above average/average ones.
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Buffy's abilities barely scratch that of Inuyasha (I've never seen her scale mountains, jump rivers, and run on trees at well over any human speed while carrying a human, a pack of books, a bike, and shipo...)

Spike + holy arrows made of wood = Spike imatating a dust pile... rather well

Giles knowledge comes from books. From what I've seen he deals with European folk, which doesn't constitute Inuyasha or Shipo (since their Oriental legend, though I could be mistaken)

Shipo's ability to do illusion would be really helpful, seeing as they are prone to being tricked a lot, and it would only take a bit of distraction before Inuyasha's 'Soul Reaver' assault would make salad trimming out of them

Dawn... hmm... she might make a nice shield...

Willow maybe a witch, but she's facing off against a Monk, a Demon Slayer, and a powerful Preistess incarnate, to name the righteous fighter side whos work is to slay witches and other such evils, not to include the dark side of Inuyasha and the powerful Kilala

Xander... ohhh, carpentry

From what I've seen, their fighting style shows a pissant stronger than average human, and even then, their style is arcane, rough, and undisciplined. A viking has more disciplined blade usage! Any descent swordsman would own that group if it were down to hand to hand.

And just to throw in the kicker, Moroku would be done with the whole gang in under 10 seconds...
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All I'm saying is that they'd last about 30sec. (As opposed to 15) Nothing major. They'd still lose.

And yes, they are oriental legends (I belive one of them is a Fox-spirit)

You've never seen Buffy with a sword in "Becoming Part 2", have you? (Per the decent swordsman remark)

How much of Buffy HAVE you seen (realy, how much, I'm not trying to be mean or anything, just an honest question)?

Willow has the ability to suck the magic out of her opponents and has taken a lot of damage only to recover as if it were nothing. (Her sheild is pretty tough as well).

They'd still lose, no one is arguing that, it's only a mater of how long they last.
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Inuyasha: claws, super strength/speed,, iron reaver, tetsiega

Kogome: magic bow+arrows

Shipo: foxfire, transforming

Sango: knife, poison, agility, fucking GIANT boomerang

Kilala: teeth, claws, fire

the monk (fuck, I forgot his name): wind tunnel, staff

the flea (dammit, I can't remember his name either): knowledge




Uh, yeah. I'd say Inuyasha's group takes this.
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I don't know too much about Buffy, but unless she's much more powerful than what I saw in the few snippets I saw, I'd have to go with Inu Yasha.

For 'current skill level', do we go with what's shown on Cartoon Network or go with the latest aired version in Japan? 'Cause I watched up to around episode 92 of it, but don't know exactly where Cartoon Network is at the moment.
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curremtly on Cartoon Network Inuyasha learned to harnes the wind scar if that helps
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Ah, thanks.

Summary Inu Yasha, Strengths, Weakness, Etc.

Claws - Inu Yasha has claws on the end of each one of his digits. I can't recall them ever breaking once i the series. Even a relatively ordinary attack can leave a huge crater in the ground, as seen early on in episode 2 where he just misses hitting Kagome.

Sankou Tessou - More or less his staple attack. Swipes his claws at a target, with yellow lines trailing behind each one. Usually done short range, but takes out multiple enemies at once, even where the claws don't touch. (Just about every episode where there's poison bees or cannon fodder.) There is good indication the effects are slightly larger than what the yellow trails suggest.

(Claws of Blood) - Inu Yasha covers his claws in his own blood and throws it at high speed. Subjectively, it seems a little weaker than Sankou Tessou but has much greater range and area effect. Still, it's strong enough to completely shatter clay-undead (episode 90-something, 'Ambition of the Dead') that weren't even dented by entire armies of people armed with swords and spears.

Tetsugia - Transforms from a rusted blunt katana to a huge wide blade that's nearly as tall as Inu Yasha himself. The strengths of the Tetsugia increase during the course of the series.

Transformed Tetsugia can easily slice through things IY's claws can't penetrate, as seen in episode 7 or 8. Here, he slices through his transformed brother's arm lengthwise without difficult, when previously all he managed was a light scratch.

Kaze no Kize is a technique that projects three trails of yellow energy flow along the ground or the air from the sword. When we first see it, it takes out over 100 youkai and the mountain they were on, leaving only three wide gashes in the ground filled with hot lava. It requires great concentration to use, carefully sensing the interaction of the 'airs' two demons or those with demon-blood produce. Not sure if it can be used in humans that well.

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Transformed Inu Yasha - Eyes turn red, two bruise-colored stripes go below one eye. When we first see it, Inu Yasha is fighting a building-sized ogre that not only is strong as it is big, but moves much faster than the eye can see AND can read minds. The ogre was strong enough to break the Tetsugia using only it's teeth. However, after this and when Inu Yasha's life was in danger, he transformed. Inu Yasha suddenly moved fast enough to catch the mind-reading ogre off guard, and in one hit not only destroyed it, but shattered it into small pieces. Inu Yasha's transformed state can even scare Sesshomaru. When he is transformed, it is said that unless if he is stopped, he will continue killing and killing until his body cannot take anymore and he dies. Cannot use the Tetsugia at the same time he transforms, because the sword seals his blood, and he later regains control of Tetsugia, so he doesn't transform anymore.

Kaze no Kize (again) - Later on, after the Tetsugia is lightened the Kaze no Kize wraps around his sword and he can use it at will, simply by swinging it.

Bakuryuu - His ultimate sword technique. First wrap the Kaze no Kize around your sword and wait for the enemy to attack with an energy blast. By hit a precise point on the energy blast it is reflected back with both the strength of the attack and the Kaze no Kize multipled. Requires you to be 'stronger' (I assume in terms of willpower) than the opponent. This attack completely shattered a giant dragon who has the size of a small mountain and had a body harder and stronger than steel. This same dragon was only slightly scratched with a high-powered Kaze no Kize and transformed Inu Yasha only left one slightly larger gash, which was laughed off.

Red-Tetsugia - Even later, Tetsugia gains the abilities to dispell magical barriers of great strength. (Weaker ones still seem to be able to be cut through via brute force before this.) To do so, Tetsugia is first transforms into a red blade, then one simply attacks the barrier. This can work with the Kaze no Kize at the same time.
Defense :

Clothes - Made out the Fire-Rat's fur. It's quite common to see swords, etc simply shattering themselves against the clothes themselves. They recieve only minor damage when hit with Sesshomaru's beam-whip. In around episode 4, we see it protects very well against heat - Kagome was uninjured when covered by the shirt, even when on top was a fire 'hot enough to burn even the bones away'. This is probably not an idle boast by a villian, given in the show we actually do see fires that do that to people. (Notably in the episode right after this.) As to be expected of anime, the clothes always seem to repair themselves by the next episode, although one might be able to chalk it up to some magical properties of them.

Body - In the first episode alone, we see that he doesn't even notice a wound caused by an arrow going clean through his shoulder. In other points in the series, we swords thrusted through him, which is painful but doesn't seem to hurt him too much. We also see him bitten nearly in half when he's fighting his transformed brother and that doesn't seem to slow him down either. We see him getting an arm thrusted through his torso, and he still can fight - although at this point he'll probably need to rest for a little bit afterwords. Usually though, alot of attacks don't do anything even to his bare skin. We see in episode 3 that he can have a thin piece of super-strong hair wrapped around his throat. This hair is strong enough to bind him and slam him against a tree. Inu Yasha was strong enough to break free of the thread, the hair instead cut apart the tree behind him. There seemed to be no scratches on Inu Yasha although he was worried for a little bit. In addition, we see that Inu Yasha himself is resistant to heat just like this clothes, when he got hit by the painter's fire in episode 17, which was also 'hot enough to burn away bone'. (Although one might claim the painter was simply boasting.)

Strength/Speed : We see him practically flying in the very first scenes of the first episode alone, and we see him doing it with up to two or three people on his back. He has no apparent problem jumping to heights that seem well above multiples of tree height and can land easily from the same. When he's pretty pissed, we see him move fast enough to blur.

Tetsugia & Scabbard - Tetsugia alone can produce a strong barrier simply by placing it against a door. (Episode 13) It can also protect from extreme posion simply by holding on to it. (Episode 7, I think.) Also, the scabbard itself can be used to shield against attacks, as seen in.... episode 11, I think. When he's fighting Hiten and Hiten shoots out a huge ball of lightning against him. However, the scabbard can crack if the attack is too strong.

Weaknesses : Inu Yasha turns completely human at during the night of a new moon (episode 13, amoung other) and can be knocked out if something smells REALLY bad. (Episode 17, I think 'Cursed Ink of the Hell-Painter')

I'll probably have to do the rest of the group later.... this took longer than I thought.
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Cyborg Stan wrote:*SNIP*
Exactly. Inu Yasha in his current state (episode 95) wins easily. He and his sword are just too powerfull.

The early Inu Yasha while much weaker was still beyond anything human and from what I have seen of Buffy he would at the VERY LEAST be an even match for her in terms of physical strength but would still have more agility and speed as well as endurance to physical attacks.
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For the American fans:

Sankou Tessou is called Iron Reaver Soul Stealer.
Claws Of Blood is Blades Of Blood.
Kaze No Kize is known as the Wind Scar, and is revealed in the last few episodes, most notably 'Tetseiga and Tenseiga' and 'True Master Of The Great Sword'. Though tonight's had nice visual for us to see how it works.


Speedwise, tonight's episode had him leaping between 7-10 of his own height in one legged hops up a mountain. Assuming he's only five foot(A tiny height, but hey, it was medieval Japan), that's between 35 and 50 feet in hops.

Frankly, he has a huge advantage as soon as he mastered Iron Reaver and Blades Of Blood. Even if the first doesn't clear the field, first wound he has can be turned into a rapid fire attack.
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Sesshoumaru zips by the gang. They fall apart in pieces a second later.
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Silver wrote:Sesshoumaru zips by the gang. They fall apart in pieces a second later.
Lord Sesshoumaru! Please don't smile, it's so much worse when you're passive-aggressive!
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So this pretty much turned out the way I thought it would. :lol:
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