Saruman VS Bowser

[Darth Fanboy]

Starman > Saruman's Magic

Bowser just heads over to World 1-1 prior to his attack and it's OVER.

Let us also remember Koopzilla.

[Ritterin Sophia]

Which Bowser design, not like it really matters, but I want him to look cools whilst doing it. Thus I nominate Giga Bowser

[Ariphaos]

Mario puts ninja to shame

[Praxis]

Which Bowser design, not like it really matters, but I want him to look cools whilst doing it. Thus I nominate Giga Bowser

What about Bowser from Super Mario Sunshine? Sure, his voice sucked, but he was freakin' HUGE. He could walk over an army. He made Gigabowser look like a midget.

[Praxis]

[*]Bosses and minibosses from throughout the Mario canon are present. I can't think of any to name off the top of my head, though.

ALL of them?

Does that include Kamek, who can transform ANY character into a miniboss or boss by sprinkling growing powder on them? He turned baby Bowser into a city-eating hulking monster in Yoshi's Island that attempted to WALK OVER the castle.

How about the giant electric stingray from Super Mario Sunshine, that is nigh-invulnerable to anything except water and splits into two smaller stingrays every time it is doused and leaves behind electric sludge everywhere it moves?

How about Big Boo?

The giant Chain Chomp from SM64?

Mouser? The three-headed fire-breathing snake guy whose name I can never remember? The boss who was literally a giant living fireball in Super Mario Bros 2?

Naval Pirahna? Petey Pirahna? Giant Wiggler from Mario 64?


Bowser stomps the competition.

[TithonusSyndrome]

Shit, it never occurred to me just how many minibosses Bowser has enjoyed the services of. Fuck Saruman, I'm thinking that the Koopa Troops could storm the Black Gate by pounding it into submission with cannons, tanks and airships and mashing the Nazgul and their fell beasts with Angry Sun. With Boos to specifically target seige engines and artillery, and Fly Guys to light mumakil saddles on fire by flying over and behind them, there's literally nothing Sauron could do but watch Bowser take the Ring.

Betcha never considered that one, huh?

[TithonusSyndrome]

Mario puts ninja to shame

You just know that's the canon version of the events of that game.

[Publius]

Considering that King Bowser has a rather large air force armed with artillery and the ability to hover in place indefinitely (airships) and even fighter-interceptors (Snifits), Saruman's forces are at a considerable disadvantage. Furthermore, the sheer size of the Koopa artillery pieces is astounding (Banzai Bills are the size of two-story houses), to say nothing of the fact that some of their artillery shells are literally smart missiles.

[TithonusSyndrome]

Considering that King Bowser...

You noticed the discrepancy in his nomenclature too, huh? He's referred to as "Bowser" and "King Koopa", but as I understand it his title should come more to the effect of "King Bowser I of the House of Koopa".

[Publius]

Considering that King Bowser...

You noticed the discrepancy in his nomenclature too, huh? He's referred to as "Bowser" and "King Koopa", but as I understand it his title should come more to the effect of "King Bowser I of the House of Koopa".

In the manual of Super Mario Bros., he is styled "Bowser, King of the Koopa." That is the most correct form of his title.

[Praxis]

I've also heard him referred to as King Bowser Koopa.

Publius; I forgot about the Banzai Bills! Just fire those into the army!

[RogueIce]

Mario puts ninja to shame

You know, buying the Wii just for a downloadable Mario 64 sounds like an excellent idea...

On topic though, in addition to the formidable Navy and armored forces that Bowser had in SMB3, he also appears to have his very own submarine, as seen in that video (and I suppose is how he got in the castle in the first place?). Although I don't know what use, if any, a sub would be in this scenario, it does show that apparently, as of Mario 64, Bowser has not forsaken the military vehicles he was shown to have in SMB3, although one wonders why he doesn't seem to use them more often...

[Bounty]

Although I don't know what use, if any, a sub would be in this scenario, it does show that apparently, as of Mario 64, Bowser has not forsaken the military vehicles he was shown to have in SMB3, although one wonders why he doesn't seem to use them more often...

He used an armed airship in Partners in Time, so he has stuck with war machines. As to why he doesn't use them more often...dunno. Mushroom Kingdom doesn't seem to have a formidable army, so maybe he's better served with large numbers of occupying forces rather than a handful of large land- or airships.

[Enigma]

Who said anything about jumping on them? I suggest rereading my post again.

And you've completely ignored that Mario is considerably more superhuman than you give him credit for. We are talking about a man so strong he can tear down castles with his bare (gloved) hands. We're talking a man so tough he falls thousands of feet and can survive with minor damage.

We are not talking an overweight plumber with no combat abilities. We're talking the modern equivalent of Heracles.

Yet, touch him and he dies.

[Enigma]

We are not talking an overweight plumber with no combat abilities. We're talking the modern equivalent of Heracles.

Yet, touch him and he dies.

Edit: Depending on Mario's height, one touch will shrink him and the second will kill him.

On the other hand, Mario has been to go super size and simply walk through anything for a limited time.

[Praxis]

Not in Mario 64...takes 8 hits, no shrinking, and he can heal himself with MONEY.

[Enigma]

Not in Mario 64...takes 8 hits, no shrinking, and he can heal himself with MONEY.

forgot about that.

[SyntaxVorlon]

Not in Mario 64...takes 8 hits, no shrinking, and he can heal himself with MONEY.

forgot about that.

Money and treading water.

Bowser takes this one, because of his surprising and nigh unlimited resources and his ability to go toe to claw with a small demi-god who can unclog a sink.

[NomAnor15]

Slightly off-topic, but I would like to hereby nominate this thread for the title of Most Entertaining Thread Ever.

[Styphon]

I don't know... there's some pretty stiff competition in that category...

Godzilla vs. his weight in chimps, for instance

[Ritterin Sophia]

No contest, Godzilla Vs His Own Weight in Chimps wins!

[White Haven]

I loved that thread. But this one wins the justice as well. Daargh, conflict! Hmmm...Mario vs Godzilla's weight in chimps?

[Sriad]

I loved that thread. But this one wins the justice as well. Daargh, conflict! Hmmm...Mario vs Godzilla's weight in chimps?

He would have SO many extra lives by the end of that...

[TithonusSyndrome]

Since Saruman is no threat to Bowser and his forces, who WOULD be? Mordor at it's pre-Minas Tirith invasion troop levels? Or would you have to look beyond LOTR to find the Koopa Troop's equal?

[Ford Prefect]

Since Saruman is no threat to Bowser and his forces, who WOULD be? Mordor at it's pre-Minas Tirith invasion troop levels? Or would you have to look beyond LOTR to find the Koopa Troop's equal?

You need guns and cannon really - Koopas alone can shatter brick, so engaging them in close quarters combat is folly.Once you have ranged weapons, and especially cannon, you can counter their durability and strength advantage, as well as the advantages afforded by the Armour Corps and Airforce. A little, at least.