True, but I still don't care. I'd gladly take Terry any day over Damian -- though the new comic series admittedly sucks.

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"A vigilante is just a man lost in the scramble for his own gratification; he can be destroyed, or locked up. But if you make yourself more than just a man, if you devote yourself to an ideal, and if they can't stop you, you become something else entirely... a legend, Mr. Wayne."

-- Ducard, Batman Begins --

Unfortunately, the rest of us have to deal with the real world, where blithely ignoring evidence you don't like is not an option.

Damian is Ten. Years. Old. He was inevitably going to be a massively annoying brat. Which is why I think introducing him into mainline continuity was an incredibly stupid idea to begin with.
And just for the record, Terry and his spin-off series are the reason I think there can be a Batman that's not me.

Fair enough.

I've become more and more disenfranchised with the mainstream DCU as of late; I'm feeling nostalgic for the DCAU.

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"A vigilante is just a man lost in the scramble for his own gratification; he can be destroyed, or locked up. But if you make yourself more than just a man, if you devote yourself to an ideal, and if they can't stop you, you become something else entirely... a legend, Mr. Wayne."

-- Ducard, Batman Begins --

Very true, but fictional canon is always a matter of consensus rather than fact.

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Ceci n'est pas une signature.

Check my location

Is there room for one more?

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"A vigilante is just a man lost in the scramble for his own gratification; he can be destroyed, or locked up. But if you make yourself more than just a man, if you devote yourself to an ideal, and if they can't stop you, you become something else entirely... a legend, Mr. Wayne."

-- Ducard, Batman Begins --

It's a pretty big drawer.

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"A vigilante is just a man lost in the scramble for his own gratification; he can be destroyed, or locked up. But if you make yourself more than just a man, if you devote yourself to an ideal, and if they can't stop you, you become something else entirely... a legend, Mr. Wayne."

-- Ducard, Batman Begins --

If that were true, we could happily ignore VOY and ENT (or post-Infinite Crisis DC). Not an option under this board's rules. Believe me, I wish it were.

Hrm? You can't ignore canon, or impose your own definitions of it, in debates on capabilities, but in private I don't give a shit if you don't consider Enterprise an actual part of the Star Trek timeline, or if you'd like to pretend One More Day/Brand New Day never happened.

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”A Radical is a man with both feet planted firmly in the air.” – Franklin Delano Roosevelt

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Absolutely. But if it isn't for the purposes of debate or discussion, canon becomes a moot point anyway. It's fiction. You can ignore however much of it you like.