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 Post subject: Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread III PostPosted: 2010-11-12 02:53pm
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Heh.

We may need to subdivide the games into Augmented and Unaugmented leagues or something. Just like physical sports. Or, then again, maybe implants do stunt the natural development of certain mental faculties.

Perhaps it is the psychic equivalent of what happens to guys who take steroids too long (or drink UMERTHIRST for more than about three days) and wind up knocking their hormone balance out of whack. Sure, the 'roids give you ridiculous muscles... but that doesn't mean you're healthy.

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 Post subject: Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread III PostPosted: 2010-11-12 03:05pm
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That depends mang. Are the implants actually affecting the person's physiologic makeup? If that's so, then yes there would be adverse health effects. But what if boosting psyk ability was just like using a megaphone? If that's the case, then it might not be so bad.

How do these machine psyk-boosters work anyway? Also, why bother with boosting organic psykers with machines? If people can build machines that can enhance psyker powers, why not build a psyker machine, period? Why bother rigging gear on a person's head to make him more powerful, when you can just build a telekinetic crushificationator machine and ditch the organic component?

Do we even have ground rules as to what causes psyker stuff, how psyker-enhancing tech works, and how well understood the phenomenon is and if it can be replicated by other artificial organic/inorganic means?

Because it seems like we have several people, with different views on how these psyker things work, coming to a head and giving head. Or something.



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 Post subject: Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread III PostPosted: 2010-11-12 03:25pm
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The games are both Augmented and Unaugmented, though for the former only devices and other stuff designed and used specifically for tournaments of this type are allowed. In other words, you can't bring your own amplifiers and so have to use those the tournament gives you.



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 Post subject: Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread III PostPosted: 2010-11-12 04:22pm
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The games are both Augmented and Unaugmented, though for the former only devices and other stuff designed and used specifically for tournaments of this type are allowed. In other words, you can't bring your own amplifiers and so have to use those the tournament gives you.
And if the amplifiers are surgically welded to your head... um... don't come to the tournament?

Honestly, I think that kind of rule would be entirely fair.

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 Post subject: Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread III PostPosted: 2010-11-12 10:07pm
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If there are any physical related games, they'd just crush the opposition.

That's a pretty bold claim, you know. :lol:

You are talking about humans that are spec beyond the average human, both cybernetically, and genetically.



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If there are any physical related games, they'd just crush the opposition.

That's a pretty bold claim, you know. :lol:

You are talking about humans that are spec beyond the average human, both cybernetically, and genetically.

You seem to be assuming that nobody else would have modifications that could possibly compete.



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 Post subject: Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread III PostPosted: 2010-11-12 10:26pm
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You seem to be assuming that nobody else would have modifications that could possibly compete.

I make the assumption and claim because tehy are the most expensive and best trained troops in the damn galaxy. Deal with it.



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Fin, that just proves that you invested in an army of people with these enhancements. It doesn't mean you're the only person in the galaxy who can produce at that level of quality.

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Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:
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You seem to be assuming that nobody else would have modifications that could possibly compete.

I make the assumption and claim because tehy are the most expensive and best trained troops in the damn galaxy. Deal with it.

Actually, my autonomous planetary forces rank in at 3000 points for half a million troops at kit 30. So you are dreadfully wrong on both counts.



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 Post subject: Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread III PostPosted: 2010-11-12 10:47pm
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Hmm. That's a draw on training, edge to the Union on equipment.

Also... guys, this is pants-on-head stupid as a form of dickwaving.

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Hey, he made the claim. I just used my troops' numbers because they were the first that came to mind.



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 Post subject: Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread III PostPosted: 2010-11-12 11:03pm
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No, I mean the whole thing.

It's stupid to have a ton of ego invested in "I have the best gear in THE UNIVERSE hahahaha!" This is the one thing I'm worried about with the Psychic Olympics idea: that we will be unable to prevent it from becoming a massive exercise in competitive declarations-of-superiority.

Avoiding that will take a lot of forbearance and civilized behavior from the players.

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Fin, that just proves that you invested in an army of people with these enhancements. It doesn't mean you're the only person in the galaxy who can produce at that level of quality.

And who else has troops which are 5000 per $1 and 4000 per $1? No one. I'm the only one who bothered to. Unless some would like to create one-freak wonders for the sake of an Olympics game which is ridiculous. If that were the case, the God Emperor might as well come alone.



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Also... guys, this is pants-on-head stupid as a form of dickwaving.


This.

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Unless some would like to create one-freak wonders for the sake of an Olympics game which is ridiculous.


Um, the training Olympic athletes engage in are practically one-freak wonders, unless for example the US Navy trains its sailors with the same regimen used by Fred Phelps, or the PLA trains its troops with the same regimen that matches its pre-teen gymnists, or if the French Foreign Legion's physical training is based on Lance Armstrong's cardio. :P

Though yeah, we'll probably be hard pressed to find people who can exceed Astartes in sheer training and enhancements.

Force Lord, I say you should make your Olympic psyker challenges have nothing remotely to do with combat ability. I mean, yeah, all sorts of enhanced combat dudes are probably trained to have mighty telekinesis, so they will probably do great in telekinetic neutronium shotput. But what about... telekinetic ice sculpting? :P



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Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:
I make the assumption and claim because tehy are the most expensive and best trained troops in the damn galaxy. Deal with it.


*overweight fatty soldier in the Shepistani 123th Field Artillery Battalion stumbles out of his bunk and wanders over to the gun pit, where a bunch of guys are setting the fuze settings for an artillery round. Overweight fatty then gets to pull the lanyard. The best of the best troops in the galaxy shortly disappear in a thermonuclear fireball*



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Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:
I make the assumption and claim because tehy are the most expensive and best trained troops in the damn galaxy. Deal with it.


*overweight fatty soldier in the Shepistani 123th Field Artillery Battalion stumbles out of his bunk and wanders over to the gun pit, where a bunch of guys are setting the fuze settings for an artillery round. Overweight fatty then gets to pull the lanyard. The best of the best troops in the galaxy shortly disappear in a thermonuclear fireball*



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 Post subject: Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread III PostPosted: 2010-11-13 12:02am
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Meh. I don't even care that much. I'm just reacting because he seems to be pretty big on being "the best".

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And who else has troops which are 5000 per $1 and 4000 per $1? No one.

I get ~167 per $1. So I suppose that you're technically right, but... yeah. :V



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 Post subject: Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread III PostPosted: 2010-11-13 12:04am
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This is true.

The scope of ego investment in absolute supremacy here is... a bit off-putting, I must say.

(Though he's counting troop training separate from equipment Ryan)

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*overweight fatty soldier in the Shepistani 123th Field Artillery Battalion stumbles out of his bunk and wanders over to the gun pit, where a bunch of guys are setting the fuze settings for an artillery round. Overweight fatty then gets to pull the lanyard. The best of the best troops in the galaxy shortly disappear in a thermonuclear fireball*
Well, this does qualify as "dealing with it."

I have to side with my nuke-happy neighbor here.

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Anyway, I think we can agree that the Byzantines aren't coming because they're too busy flexing their muscles about how awesome they are to actually do anything.

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It would be awesome if the Byzantines boycotted these Olympics and made their own Friendship Games!



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(Though he's counting troop training separate from equipment Ryan)

Well yeah, but at a certain point, what's the difference? :P

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No, I mean the whole thing.

It's stupid to have a ton of ego invested in "I have the best gear in THE UNIVERSE hahahaha!" This is the one thing I'm worried about with the Psychic Olympics idea: that we will be unable to prevent it from becoming a massive exercise in competitive declarations-of-superiority.


Hasn't that been the bloody point of the Olympics for the past century?

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Avoiding that will take a lot of forbearance and civilized behavior from the players.


You are kidding yourself.

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This is true.

The scope of ego investment in absolute supremacy here is... a bit off-putting, I must say.

(Though he's counting troop training separate from equipment Ryan)

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*overweight fatty soldier in the Shepistani 123th Field Artillery Battalion stumbles out of his bunk and wanders over to the gun pit, where a bunch of guys are setting the fuze settings for an artillery round. Overweight fatty then gets to pull the lanyard. The best of the best troops in the galaxy shortly disappear in a thermonuclear fireball*
Well, this does qualify as "dealing with it."

I have to side with my nuke-happy neighbor here.


Like what is the point of this ? I am merely stating the facts, and some people like you don't like it. Never mind Ryan Thunder does have a history of dick waving openly in game. I have hardly done any in-game thus far.

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Anyway, I think we can agree that the Byzantines aren't coming because they're too busy flexing their muscles about how awesome they are to actually do anything.


We are too busy fighting wars than dealing with weak kneeled fools outside the K-zone.



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Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:
Simon_Jester wrote:
No, I mean the whole thing.

It's stupid to have a ton of ego invested in "I have the best gear in THE UNIVERSE hahahaha!" This is the one thing I'm worried about with the Psychic Olympics idea: that we will be unable to prevent it from becoming a massive exercise in competitive declarations-of-superiority.


Hasn't that been the bloody point of the Olympics for the past century?

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You are kidding yourself.


It has been the point, but at least with reality, there's a well defined way to determine who wins. In this, it's all just dickwavery. There no way to actually say that one country is actually superior. It might as well all be settled with a random number generator.



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Heh, well, obviously he's so well-invested in it that he can't even be bothered to acknowledge that he's mistaken. :lol:

Whatever.



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