SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread III

Create, read, or participate in text-based RPGs

Moderators: Thanas, Steve

Simon_Jester
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 27397
Joined: 2009-05-23 07:29pm

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread III

Postby Simon_Jester » 2010-11-12 01:53pm

Heh.

We may need to subdivide the games into Augmented and Unaugmented leagues or something. Just like physical sports. Or, then again, maybe implants do stunt the natural development of certain mental faculties.

Perhaps it is the psychic equivalent of what happens to guys who take steroids too long (or drink UMERTHIRST for more than about three days) and wind up knocking their hormone balance out of whack. Sure, the 'roids give you ridiculous muscles... but that doesn't mean you're healthy.

User avatar
Shroom Man 777
FUCKING DICK-STABBER!
Posts: 19927
Joined: 2003-05-11 08:39am
Location: Bleeding breasts and stabbing dicks since 2003
Contact:

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread III

Postby Shroom Man 777 » 2010-11-12 02:05pm

That depends mang. Are the implants actually affecting the person's physiologic makeup? If that's so, then yes there would be adverse health effects. But what if boosting psyk ability was just like using a megaphone? If that's the case, then it might not be so bad.

How do these machine psyk-boosters work anyway? Also, why bother with boosting organic psykers with machines? If people can build machines that can enhance psyker powers, why not build a psyker machine, period? Why bother rigging gear on a person's head to make him more powerful, when you can just build a telekinetic crushificationator machine and ditch the organic component?

Do we even have ground rules as to what causes psyker stuff, how psyker-enhancing tech works, and how well understood the phenomenon is and if it can be replicated by other artificial organic/inorganic means?

Because it seems like we have several people, with different views on how these psyker things work, coming to a head and giving head. Or something.
Image Image Image
shroom is a lovely boy and i wont hear a bad word against him - LUSY-CHAN!
Shit! Man, I didn't think of that! It took Shroom to properly interpret the screams of dying people :D - PeZook
Shroom, I read out the stuff you write about us. You are an endless supply of morale down here. :p - an OWS street medic
Pink Sugar Heart Attack!

User avatar
Force Lord
Jedi Council Member
Posts: 1562
Joined: 2008-10-12 05:36pm
Location: Rio Piedras, San Juan, Puerto Rico
Contact:

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread III

Postby Force Lord » 2010-11-12 02:25pm

The games are both Augmented and Unaugmented, though for the former only devices and other stuff designed and used specifically for tournaments of this type are allowed. In other words, you can't bring your own amplifiers and so have to use those the tournament gives you.
An inhabitant from the Island of Cars.

Simon_Jester
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 27397
Joined: 2009-05-23 07:29pm

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread III

Postby Simon_Jester » 2010-11-12 03:22pm

Force Lord wrote:The games are both Augmented and Unaugmented, though for the former only devices and other stuff designed and used specifically for tournaments of this type are allowed. In other words, you can't bring your own amplifiers and so have to use those the tournament gives you.
And if the amplifiers are surgically welded to your head... um... don't come to the tournament?

Honestly, I think that kind of rule would be entirely fair.

User avatar
Fingolfin_Noldor
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 11824
Joined: 2006-05-15 10:36am
Location: At the Helm of the HAB Star Dreadnaught Star Fist

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread III

Postby Fingolfin_Noldor » 2010-11-12 09:07pm

Ryan Thunder wrote:
Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:If there are any physical related games, they'd just crush the opposition.

That's a pretty bold claim, you know. :lol:

You are talking about humans that are spec beyond the average human, both cybernetically, and genetically.
Image
STGOD: Byzantine Empire
Your spirit, diseased as it is, refuses to allow you to give up, no matter what threats you face... and whatever wreckage you leave behind you.
Kreia

User avatar
Ryan Thunder
Village Idiot
Posts: 4139
Joined: 2007-09-16 07:53pm
Location: Canada

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread III

Postby Ryan Thunder » 2010-11-12 09:21pm

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:
Ryan Thunder wrote:
Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:If there are any physical related games, they'd just crush the opposition.

That's a pretty bold claim, you know. :lol:

You are talking about humans that are spec beyond the average human, both cybernetically, and genetically.

You seem to be assuming that nobody else would have modifications that could possibly compete.
SDN Worlds 5: Sanctum

User avatar
Fingolfin_Noldor
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 11824
Joined: 2006-05-15 10:36am
Location: At the Helm of the HAB Star Dreadnaught Star Fist

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread III

Postby Fingolfin_Noldor » 2010-11-12 09:26pm

Ryan Thunder wrote:You seem to be assuming that nobody else would have modifications that could possibly compete.

I make the assumption and claim because tehy are the most expensive and best trained troops in the damn galaxy. Deal with it.
Image
STGOD: Byzantine Empire
Your spirit, diseased as it is, refuses to allow you to give up, no matter what threats you face... and whatever wreckage you leave behind you.
Kreia

Simon_Jester
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 27397
Joined: 2009-05-23 07:29pm

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread III

Postby Simon_Jester » 2010-11-12 09:32pm

Fin, that just proves that you invested in an army of people with these enhancements. It doesn't mean you're the only person in the galaxy who can produce at that level of quality.

User avatar
Ryan Thunder
Village Idiot
Posts: 4139
Joined: 2007-09-16 07:53pm
Location: Canada

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread III

Postby Ryan Thunder » 2010-11-12 09:43pm

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:
Ryan Thunder wrote:You seem to be assuming that nobody else would have modifications that could possibly compete.

I make the assumption and claim because tehy are the most expensive and best trained troops in the damn galaxy. Deal with it.

Actually, my autonomous planetary forces rank in at 3000 points for half a million troops at kit 30. So you are dreadfully wrong on both counts.
SDN Worlds 5: Sanctum

Simon_Jester
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 27397
Joined: 2009-05-23 07:29pm

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread III

Postby Simon_Jester » 2010-11-12 09:47pm

Hmm. That's a draw on training, edge to the Union on equipment.

Also... guys, this is pants-on-head stupid as a form of dickwaving.

User avatar
Ryan Thunder
Village Idiot
Posts: 4139
Joined: 2007-09-16 07:53pm
Location: Canada

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread III

Postby Ryan Thunder » 2010-11-12 09:49pm

Hey, he made the claim. I just used my troops' numbers because they were the first that came to mind.
SDN Worlds 5: Sanctum

Simon_Jester
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 27397
Joined: 2009-05-23 07:29pm

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread III

Postby Simon_Jester » 2010-11-12 10:03pm

No, I mean the whole thing.

It's stupid to have a ton of ego invested in "I have the best gear in THE UNIVERSE hahahaha!" This is the one thing I'm worried about with the Psychic Olympics idea: that we will be unable to prevent it from becoming a massive exercise in competitive declarations-of-superiority.

Avoiding that will take a lot of forbearance and civilized behavior from the players.

User avatar
Fingolfin_Noldor
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 11824
Joined: 2006-05-15 10:36am
Location: At the Helm of the HAB Star Dreadnaught Star Fist

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread III

Postby Fingolfin_Noldor » 2010-11-12 10:10pm

Simon_Jester wrote:Fin, that just proves that you invested in an army of people with these enhancements. It doesn't mean you're the only person in the galaxy who can produce at that level of quality.

And who else has troops which are 5000 per $1 and 4000 per $1? No one. I'm the only one who bothered to. Unless some would like to create one-freak wonders for the sake of an Olympics game which is ridiculous. If that were the case, the God Emperor might as well come alone.
Image
STGOD: Byzantine Empire
Your spirit, diseased as it is, refuses to allow you to give up, no matter what threats you face... and whatever wreckage you leave behind you.
Kreia

User avatar
Shroom Man 777
FUCKING DICK-STABBER!
Posts: 19927
Joined: 2003-05-11 08:39am
Location: Bleeding breasts and stabbing dicks since 2003
Contact:

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread III

Postby Shroom Man 777 » 2010-11-12 10:50pm

Simon_Jester wrote:Also... guys, this is pants-on-head stupid as a form of dickwaving.


This.

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:Unless some would like to create one-freak wonders for the sake of an Olympics game which is ridiculous.


Um, the training Olympic athletes engage in are practically one-freak wonders, unless for example the US Navy trains its sailors with the same regimen used by Fred Phelps, or the PLA trains its troops with the same regimen that matches its pre-teen gymnists, or if the French Foreign Legion's physical training is based on Lance Armstrong's cardio. :P

Though yeah, we'll probably be hard pressed to find people who can exceed Astartes in sheer training and enhancements.

Force Lord, I say you should make your Olympic psyker challenges have nothing remotely to do with combat ability. I mean, yeah, all sorts of enhanced combat dudes are probably trained to have mighty telekinesis, so they will probably do great in telekinetic neutronium shotput. But what about... telekinetic ice sculpting? :P
Image Image Image
shroom is a lovely boy and i wont hear a bad word against him - LUSY-CHAN!
Shit! Man, I didn't think of that! It took Shroom to properly interpret the screams of dying people :D - PeZook
Shroom, I read out the stuff you write about us. You are an endless supply of morale down here. :p - an OWS street medic
Pink Sugar Heart Attack!

User avatar
MKSheppard
Ruthless Genocidal Warmonger
Ruthless Genocidal Warmonger
Posts: 28470
Joined: 2002-07-06 06:34pm

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread III

Postby MKSheppard » 2010-11-12 10:53pm

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:I make the assumption and claim because tehy are the most expensive and best trained troops in the damn galaxy. Deal with it.


*overweight fatty soldier in the Shepistani 123th Field Artillery Battalion stumbles out of his bunk and wanders over to the gun pit, where a bunch of guys are setting the fuze settings for an artillery round. Overweight fatty then gets to pull the lanyard. The best of the best troops in the galaxy shortly disappear in a thermonuclear fireball*
"If scientists and inventors who develop disease cures and useful technologies don't get lifetime royalties, I'd like to know what fucking rationale you have for some guy getting lifetime royalties for writing an episode of Full House." - Mike Wong

"The present air situation in the Pacific is entirely the result of fighting a fifth rate air power." - U.S. Navy Memo - 24 July 1944

User avatar
MKSheppard
Ruthless Genocidal Warmonger
Ruthless Genocidal Warmonger
Posts: 28470
Joined: 2002-07-06 06:34pm

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread III

Postby MKSheppard » 2010-11-12 10:53pm

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:I make the assumption and claim because tehy are the most expensive and best trained troops in the damn galaxy. Deal with it.


*overweight fatty soldier in the Shepistani 123th Field Artillery Battalion stumbles out of his bunk and wanders over to the gun pit, where a bunch of guys are setting the fuze settings for an artillery round. Overweight fatty then gets to pull the lanyard. The best of the best troops in the galaxy shortly disappear in a thermonuclear fireball*
"If scientists and inventors who develop disease cures and useful technologies don't get lifetime royalties, I'd like to know what fucking rationale you have for some guy getting lifetime royalties for writing an episode of Full House." - Mike Wong

"The present air situation in the Pacific is entirely the result of fighting a fifth rate air power." - U.S. Navy Memo - 24 July 1944

User avatar
Ryan Thunder
Village Idiot
Posts: 4139
Joined: 2007-09-16 07:53pm
Location: Canada

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread III

Postby Ryan Thunder » 2010-11-12 11:02pm

Meh. I don't even care that much. I'm just reacting because he seems to be pretty big on being "the best".

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:And who else has troops which are 5000 per $1 and 4000 per $1? No one.

I get ~167 per $1. So I suppose that you're technically right, but... yeah. :V
SDN Worlds 5: Sanctum

Simon_Jester
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 27397
Joined: 2009-05-23 07:29pm

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread III

Postby Simon_Jester » 2010-11-12 11:04pm

This is true.

The scope of ego investment in absolute supremacy here is... a bit off-putting, I must say.

(Though he's counting troop training separate from equipment Ryan)

MKSheppard wrote:*overweight fatty soldier in the Shepistani 123th Field Artillery Battalion stumbles out of his bunk and wanders over to the gun pit, where a bunch of guys are setting the fuze settings for an artillery round. Overweight fatty then gets to pull the lanyard. The best of the best troops in the galaxy shortly disappear in a thermonuclear fireball*
Well, this does qualify as "dealing with it."

I have to side with my nuke-happy neighbor here.

...

Anyway, I think we can agree that the Byzantines aren't coming because they're too busy flexing their muscles about how awesome they are to actually do anything.

User avatar
Shroom Man 777
FUCKING DICK-STABBER!
Posts: 19927
Joined: 2003-05-11 08:39am
Location: Bleeding breasts and stabbing dicks since 2003
Contact:

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread III

Postby Shroom Man 777 » 2010-11-12 11:21pm

It would be awesome if the Byzantines boycotted these Olympics and made their own Friendship Games!
Image Image Image
shroom is a lovely boy and i wont hear a bad word against him - LUSY-CHAN!
Shit! Man, I didn't think of that! It took Shroom to properly interpret the screams of dying people :D - PeZook
Shroom, I read out the stuff you write about us. You are an endless supply of morale down here. :p - an OWS street medic
Pink Sugar Heart Attack!

User avatar
Ryan Thunder
Village Idiot
Posts: 4139
Joined: 2007-09-16 07:53pm
Location: Canada

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread III

Postby Ryan Thunder » 2010-11-12 11:36pm

Simon_Jester wrote:(Though he's counting troop training separate from equipment Ryan)

Well yeah, but at a certain point, what's the difference? :P

Anyway, I think we can agree that the Byzantines aren't coming because they're too busy flexing their muscles about how awesome they are to actually do anything.

:lol:
SDN Worlds 5: Sanctum

User avatar
Shroom Man 777
FUCKING DICK-STABBER!
Posts: 19927
Joined: 2003-05-11 08:39am
Location: Bleeding breasts and stabbing dicks since 2003
Contact:

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread III

Postby Shroom Man 777 » 2010-11-13 12:16am

Welcome to the game, Aly!
Image Image Image
shroom is a lovely boy and i wont hear a bad word against him - LUSY-CHAN!
Shit! Man, I didn't think of that! It took Shroom to properly interpret the screams of dying people :D - PeZook
Shroom, I read out the stuff you write about us. You are an endless supply of morale down here. :p - an OWS street medic
Pink Sugar Heart Attack!

User avatar
Alyrium Denryle
Minister of Sin
Posts: 21511
Joined: 2002-07-11 08:34pm
Location: The Deep Desert
Contact:

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread III

Postby Alyrium Denryle » 2010-11-13 12:35am

THERE IS NO REGENCY OF THE ENGINE. IT WAS ALL A DREAM.




THERE ARE ONLY... RANOIDS!
GALE Force Biological Agent/
BOTM/Great Dolphin Conspiracy/
Entomology and Evolutionary Biology Subdirector:SD.net Dept. of Biological Sciences


There is Grandeur in the View of Life; it fills me with a Deep Wonder, and Intense Cynicism.

User avatar
Fingolfin_Noldor
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 11824
Joined: 2006-05-15 10:36am
Location: At the Helm of the HAB Star Dreadnaught Star Fist

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread III

Postby Fingolfin_Noldor » 2010-11-13 12:40am

Simon_Jester wrote:No, I mean the whole thing.

It's stupid to have a ton of ego invested in "I have the best gear in THE UNIVERSE hahahaha!" This is the one thing I'm worried about with the Psychic Olympics idea: that we will be unable to prevent it from becoming a massive exercise in competitive declarations-of-superiority.


Hasn't that been the bloody point of the Olympics for the past century?

Avoiding that will take a lot of forbearance and civilized behavior from the players.


You are kidding yourself.

Simon_Jester wrote:This is true.

The scope of ego investment in absolute supremacy here is... a bit off-putting, I must say.

(Though he's counting troop training separate from equipment Ryan)

MKSheppard wrote:*overweight fatty soldier in the Shepistani 123th Field Artillery Battalion stumbles out of his bunk and wanders over to the gun pit, where a bunch of guys are setting the fuze settings for an artillery round. Overweight fatty then gets to pull the lanyard. The best of the best troops in the galaxy shortly disappear in a thermonuclear fireball*
Well, this does qualify as "dealing with it."

I have to side with my nuke-happy neighbor here.


Like what is the point of this ? I am merely stating the facts, and some people like you don't like it. Never mind Ryan Thunder does have a history of dick waving openly in game. I have hardly done any in-game thus far.

Anyway, I think we can agree that the Byzantines aren't coming because they're too busy flexing their muscles about how awesome they are to actually do anything.


We are too busy fighting wars than dealing with weak kneeled fools outside the K-zone.
Image
STGOD: Byzantine Empire
Your spirit, diseased as it is, refuses to allow you to give up, no matter what threats you face... and whatever wreckage you leave behind you.
Kreia

User avatar
Beowulf
The Patrician
Posts: 10485
Joined: 2002-07-04 01:18am
Location: 32ULV
Contact:

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread III

Postby Beowulf » 2010-11-13 12:46am

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:
Simon_Jester wrote:No, I mean the whole thing.

It's stupid to have a ton of ego invested in "I have the best gear in THE UNIVERSE hahahaha!" This is the one thing I'm worried about with the Psychic Olympics idea: that we will be unable to prevent it from becoming a massive exercise in competitive declarations-of-superiority.


Hasn't that been the bloody point of the Olympics for the past century?

Avoiding that will take a lot of forbearance and civilized behavior from the players.


You are kidding yourself.


It has been the point, but at least with reality, there's a well defined way to determine who wins. In this, it's all just dickwavery. There no way to actually say that one country is actually superior. It might as well all be settled with a random number generator.
"preemptive killing of cops might not be such a bad idea from a personal saftey[sic] standpoint..." --Keevan Colton
"There's a word for bias you can't see: Yours." -- William Saletan

User avatar
Ryan Thunder
Village Idiot
Posts: 4139
Joined: 2007-09-16 07:53pm
Location: Canada

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread III

Postby Ryan Thunder » 2010-11-13 12:52am

Heh, well, obviously he's so well-invested in it that he can't even be bothered to acknowledge that he's mistaken. :lol:

Whatever.
SDN Worlds 5: Sanctum


Return to “STGOD role-playing games”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests