LionElJonson wrote:Who said anything about killing anyone? Atheists and whatnot might be an oppressed minority in such a regime, but only the most hard-line fundamentalists would want them killed
Which is exactly what this fucker is, a hard-line fundamentalist.
LionElJonson wrote:especially when the leadership of them has a science-oriented goal like expanding into space at the top of the agenda. Most likely, there'd just be a bunch of punishments for assorted criminalized sins,
Yet you find nothing wrong with this? Are you fucking kidding me?
LionElJonson wrote:and maybe incentives for things like going to church. Well, okay, the doctors and nurses who perform abortions might be executed if they continue to murder babies,
Oh, go and sodomize yourself with a bible you twat. A seed isn't a tree. An egg is not a chicken. An embryo is not a baby.
LionElJonson wrote:as might the women who went to them for their services, but other than that, I doubt anyone would be executed as a result of this scenario.
LionElJonson wrote:Besides which, it would be entirely fair to interpret the Bible as giving Christians the duty to perform science; God gave us the stewardship of the world, and since we were a primitive people at the time who did not know of the existance of other planets, let alone other solar systems, it'd be entirely reasonable to assume that God was giving us the stewardship of the physical universe
The Church didn't see it that way for a while, which is why they fucked over Gallileo and such for trying to disprove their bullshit.
LionElJonson wrote:Additionally, the evidence is that God prefers to avoid breaking the laws of physics He created;
Except everything about the creation myth breaks the laws of physics.
LionElJonson wrote:the universe is God's greatest and most complex creation, so marvelling at it and exploring it could be thought of as a form of worship of Him. How are we to perform our duties as God's stewards of the physical world, if we lack the science to properly do so, and the technologies to get off the planet and into the greater universe?
Because being the steward of something doesn't mean you fucking ditch it when it gets dirty. If a friend asked you to house sit would you not look after their house? And if it got messy, what is the reasonable thing to do, dip or stay and clean it up?
LionElJonson wrote: kouchpotato: How to convince him to let me do it? Point to how much money it would make (probably on the order of hundreds of millions if not billions, since you want profit to be on the same order of magnitude as costs as a safety margin).
Except he's clearly not interested in profits. If he was, he wouldn't support environmental measures and getting us off of oil dependency. Those things make a shitton of money.
LionElJonson wrote:Secondly, I'm a Christian, he's a Christian; I'd attempt to approach him at church, or possibly after it. He'd probably be more receptive that way.
If he attended Church where the public could freely talk to him he'd be shot in a heartbeat. Assuming he's smart (smart of a fundie) he'll have his own private church.
LionElJonson wrote:Finally, I'd stress that it's literally the only way possible to save mankind in time, since chemical rockets lack the lifting ability required.
Not if he cleans up the planet. Why leave Earth if there isn't an immediate threat to it?
LionElJonson wrote:Also, I'm not anti-intellectual; I just know that the various fields of science can, to some degree, be seperated. Just because one field suffers a bit of a slowdown doesn't mean other, unrelated fields also suffer slowdowns. IT and Biology are not related; the Singularity will most likely proceed on schedule.
You are anti-intellectual, because you don't give a shit if people suffer for not agreeing with a bunch of stupid made up dogma. And just how the fuck do you expect to make a fake brain if you don't understand the real one? That's what biology is for dickhead.
LionElJonson wrote:Also: imitation is the greatest form of flattery. The Tower of Babel was built due to arrogance; if we build the Friendly AI with humility (and we would need to be humble to have a hope of pulling it off successfully), we probably wouldn't suffer the same fate.
Well, no we wouldn't because the Tower of Babel was a myth for one. For two, of you tried to make a "God" AI your deity would get jealous and fuck you up. That's sorta what he does. He doesn't like people worshipping anyone other than him. He's so insecure he doesn't even like people using his name! Why do you think tons of fundy sites used "G-d"?
LionElJonson wrote:And yes, he would need me, or someone like me, since he most likely just sees climate change and peak oil as indicators that the end-time is coming. This means he'd need to build them that much more quickly, since something even worse is right around the corner. I'm not being delusional about being a savior; I'm just taking advantage of the fact he's delusional about humanity needing one (something explicitly stated in the OP).
You don't understand. Let me spell it out real clear for you. If we solve Global Warming and Peak Oil there would be less of an incentive than there currently is to colonize other worlds. Who gives a shit about a mars colony when we've got a perfectly fine Earth? You also ignore the fact he's an environmentalist, and those people tend to not be the biggest fans of nuclear energy.
LionElJonson wrote:And no, I don't care about him oppressing people; it doesn't affect me, so I don't care. I'm not a very good Christian that way.
You are a fucking piece of shit. Not giving a shit if people get oppressed, have their rights stripped and such isn't just being a bad Christian (I'd argue it's being a good one) but it's being a fucking awful person. Please, go preach in Iran or something.