I Thought I'd Met All The Trektards!

Zablorg · Post by **Zablorg** » 2008-01-23 01:36am

I love how he thinks the first point kills the franchise.

Also, Damn you Schatten!

Ritterin Sophia · Post by **Ritterin Sophia** » 2008-01-23 02:18am

Zablorg wrote:I love how he thinks the first point kills the franchise.

Also, Damn you Schatten!

I should warn you, I had a level 50 Ninja/Trick Arrow Mastermind in City of Villains!

The Spartan · Post by **The Spartan** » 2008-01-23 07:32am

Zablorg wrote:I have no idea who JJ Abrams character is. What's the general reaction to him directing this movie?

He's the writer/producer of Lost and Cloverfield.

Ryushikaze · Post by **Ryushikaze** » 2008-01-23 07:39am

So his '3 easy steps' boil down to-

1.They contradicted an unknown if not already contradicted fact about the franchise, based on his pure supposition.
To say nothing of how the franchise itself has been pissing all over continuity for quite some time now.

2. He doesn't like a Connie looking like a Connie. Boo hoo.

3. He has some unspecified grudge against J.J. Abrams which he does not base on anything.

Wow... such a scintillating film. I want my two minutes back.

Ritterin Sophia · Post by **Ritterin Sophia** » 2008-01-23 04:12pm

Seriously, if you can't weld duranium, how do you patch holes on the ship? Whilst I wouldn't expect a patch with exactly the same strength as the armour around it, I would expect it to be at least in the same general area. So if you can't weld duranium, that sounds like a huge design flaw to me.

wjs7744 · Post by **wjs7744** » 2008-01-23 04:22pm

General Schatten wrote:Seriously, if you can't weld duranium, how do you patch holes on the ship? Whilst I wouldn't expect a patch with exactly the same strength as the armour around it, I would expect it to be at least in the same general area. So if you can't weld duranium, that sounds like a huge design flaw to me.

Don't they generally remove the entire plate and bolt on a new one in drydock (funny name)? Over-reliance on their support facilities isnt really news for the federation.

Ted C · Post by **Ted C** » 2008-01-23 04:37pm

wjs7744 wrote:...drydock (funny name)?

Just a little bit of antiquated terminology.

You'd think that followers of a franchise that uses wet-navy terms for its starships wouldn't obsess over turbolasers being identical to modern lasers.

wjs7744 · Post by **wjs7744** » 2008-01-23 04:58pm

Ted C wrote:Just a little bit of antiquated terminology.

You'd think that followers of a franchise that uses wet-navy terms for its starships wouldn't obsess over turbolasers being identical to modern lasers.

Weird, isn't it? Of course, it's a fine example of the classic Trekkie Double Standard(TM). I personally like Mike's example of the phaser and blaster rifles, as it's a word that has basically lost it's original meaning even today.

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2008-01-23 05:09pm

Response to Victor1st's trailer critique here.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2008-01-23 05:37pm

I don't get threatening people over the internet. If you COULD do something, you wouldn't tell them about it, so threatening someone only telegraphs your inability to actually harm them.

Zablorg · Post by **Zablorg** » 2008-01-23 05:40pm

Oh, can't you smack him around a bit, Wayne?

I like this fellow. His intro isn't ego-centric. I love that word...

Thanatos · Post by **Thanatos** » 2008-01-23 06:03pm

The "You Can't Weld Duranium" line had me expecting him to say "I hope someone got fired for that one"

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2008-01-23 06:08pm

Zablorg wrote:Oh, can't you smack him around a bit, Wayne?

I added my Trekmiss and Happy/Crappy Landing videos to LV!

http://www.livevideo.com/MrPoe

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2008-01-23 06:12pm

One really funny thing "happy/crappy landings" makes you think about: even the designers of Spaceball 1 were smart enough to include seatbelts.

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2008-01-23 10:26pm

(Mods, if you think we should move this to the Trek forum, let me know.)

Victor1st has released yet another video spreading doom and gloom for the new Trek film.

You know what? I'm reversing my earlier position. While no one can replace Shatner, I'm actually CALLING for a Trek reboot. Idiots like this have convinced me that it is 100% necessary to relaunch trek in a new way. Why NOT toss out the canon, and begin again?

After all the turds Berman has plopped down on the Trek franchise, who would want to defend that? Can a reboot be any MORE damaging than episodes like "Threshold", endless Picard pontificating, or boring as fuck DS9? How about the fact that trek can was ALREADY screwed with in Enterprise?

Vehrec · Post by **Vehrec** » 2008-01-23 11:24pm

Poe, how can you listen to him? He's got such a strong accent, it makes me cry for the English language, not to mentions the bullshit coming out of his mouth. Why can't we just put this trekktard in a box and throw the box into another box and burry that box under all the Karen Traviss books we will never read again?

Thanatos · Post by **Thanatos** » 2008-01-23 11:41pm

God, I hate to lower myself to his level of pedantic but: The episode he's talking about, Eye of the Beholder, has the bodies being destroyed by a plasma stream within the warp nacelles. It has nothing to do with how the ship is constructed. There goes his principle evidence, he should try to pay attention in the future.

I have no clue why people have a problem with it being welded. Probably not gee-whiz enough for them.

brianeyci · Post by **brianeyci** » 2008-01-23 11:49pm

Didn't we see Picard weld a door in Nemesis, probably duranium?

The bullshit about the duranium comes from Yar saying something melted duranium. If I recall right, Yar says something along the lines of "no known technology can do this." Of course Yar was talking about the amount of damage, which if I remember right was significant, but the guy literalized it to can't weld duranium. I wonder if he's ever welded anything, ever.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2008-01-24 12:22am

From his description, it sounds they GLUE the ship together!

Why is this inferior or "higher tech" than arc welding again?

Zablorg · Post by **Zablorg** » 2008-01-24 12:27am

It has to do with the glue's submolecular frequency. Duh.

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2008-01-24 02:01am

Who's that fat fuck that replied to Victor1st's second video?

CLICK HERE

Ryushikaze · Post by **Ryushikaze** » 2008-01-24 02:08am

Did he just say you can't get an airtight seal with Welding? Wow. He's... I mean, modern pressurized cylinders have their bases welded on.

I'm also noting that he's taking a lot of time to say a whole damn lot of nothing.

I'm still amused by how he's pissed about Abrams MAYBE pissing the continuity instead of B&B's continued tripe.

And Poe, I agree. A reboot can't do any more harm than what's been happening.

I'm still amused by his prophesies of doom based on 20 seconds of film that might not have anything to do with the finished film.

I'm also amused by his declaration that ST fans have never been divided before.

Seriously, 13 and a half minutes of bitching, slippery slope nonsense, and colon fu. He loves to hear himself talk.

Zablorg · Post by **Zablorg** » 2008-01-24 02:33am

He's not shutting up. He just is not shutting up.

What's this shit about airtight sealing and welding?

My trek history is a little rusty, but was the Enterprise that Kirk captained the very first? If not, why can't this Enterprise be launched first?

Zablorg · Post by **Zablorg** » 2008-01-24 02:42am

Wayne, what are you talking about launching a torpedo coated with this fusing chemical? I don't think it will put a hole in the Enterprise so much as make the torpedo glue to the ship.

wjs7744 · Post by **wjs7744** » 2008-01-24 04:01am

brianeyci wrote:The bullshit about the duranium comes from Yar saying something melted duranium. If I recall right, Yar says something along the lines of "no known technology can do this." Of course Yar was talking about the amount of damage, which if I remember right was significant, but the guy literalized it to can't weld duranium. I wonder if he's ever welded anything, ever.

Nitpick: Wasn't that tritanium? And I agree, there's a bit of a difference between melting the surface to fuse two plates together, and melting the entire plate.