Who would win in a lightsaber battle?

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Darth Maul seems to be a lot quicker and more agile than Darth Vader.

If Kyle uses the force grip/saber throw, it'll probably be a tie. Corran's grandfather used the energy absorption when hit by a lightsaber. He sucked out all the power and stayed alive long enough to use his new energy to crush his opponent. I think Corran could do the same to Kyle.
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Talon Karrde wrote:Corran Horn vs. Kyle Katarn is a no brainer. Corran Horn is a Jedi Master, Kyle Katarn is force-sensitive and uses it when he sees fit. Corran has the experience and training to absolutely enihalate Katarn.
How? He has none of the abilities he needs to be able to do so. Kyle has killed Dark Jedi in the past--including one that was able to fight Luke (and appear to be winning). Kyle beat him one-on-one, and Corran is not NEARLY as strong as Luke.

Incidentally, Maul may be more quick than Vader is in RotJ, but he is not more powerful. Anakin is second only to Yoda and Palpatine in the Force, and he is considerably more gifted, physically, than either of them. Vader is the most powerful Jedi we have seen fight in the SW saga.
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Darth Vader vs Darth Maul
That's easy. Maul is half the man Vader is.

As far as Corran not being able to absorb the energy released from a thermal detonator, don't forget he took on an hideout with explosive charges set to purposely kill him. Though I don't believe he could do that level of Force redirection trick too many times in a row.

If it were a fight mano a mano (only lightsabres and the Force as weapons), it could be an entertaining fight. Though Corran has killed before, he doesn't have the same instinct for it that Kyle does, so that's an edge for Kyle.

What bothers me in the versus duels is that the people being pitted against one another don't have a reason to fight, other than to fill some fanboi's dream. If some omnipotent being put Kyle and Corran in a pit and ordered them to fight to the death, I can see Corran refusing to fight and either being killed by Kyle (if Kyle doesn't take courage from Corran's stand) or being done away with by the omnipotent being. But then, I like to pull back the curtain and ask Oz why he pulls the strings and makes the puppets dance.
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IG-88E wrote:Darth Maul seems to be a lot quicker and more agile than Darth Vader.

If Kyle uses the force grip/saber throw, it'll probably be a tie. Corran's grandfather used the energy absorption when hit by a lightsaber. He sucked out all the power and stayed alive long enough to use his new energy to crush his opponent. I think Corran could do the same to Kyle.
You don't know this. The movies were made at different times, thus the ability to make the fights more realistic and action-packed was a lot more difficult to do 20 some years ago. You can't compare to characters by how they appear 20 years apart on the big screen.
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Ossus, you seem to forget that Jedi Master Corran Horn killed a very prominent Yuzzhan Vong warrior in a challenge issued by the warrior. Even without sensing his opponets moves he was able to eventually outwit him. Corran is indeed a true fighter. Telekenesis skills are not needed in a lightsaber duel, and Corran is definately not a shabby fighter.
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Telekenesis skills are not needed in a lightsaber duel,

Yet they are used very prominently in all of the movies. In TESB Vader knocks Luke on his bottom when he sends all that junk flying at him. Eariler, in the carbon freezing chamber Luke uses it to get his lightsaber back. In ROTJ we see it agin being used to reclaim lightsabers. In TPM we see the Force-push used numerous time sto great effect. If Maul hadn't have sat around and laughed at poor stuck Obi-Wan when he Force-pushed him into the shaft, he would've won. In AOTC, we see all sorsta crazy crap with the flinging of the objects.

Its quite clear telekenesis is important, even in lightsaber duels.
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Jedi also use telekinesis to affect their own bodies, making them faster, stronger, and more agile while in combat. They are not necessarily needed for taking on wussy Yuuzhan Vong like Corran does all the time, but they are needed to combat other Jedi/dark Jedi.
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Well, assuming they are fightingto the death, Kyle Force grips Corran and that's that. Corran, or so I've heard, has no telekinesis. ence he cannot break the choke hold.

Or Kyle pulls out his Flack cannon and shoots him a few hundred times.
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First you gotta find Corran. He clamps down on his Force presence, using just enough to to create 10 illusions of himself. If you remember, Corran's mind trick worked on multiple people at once, all Force sensitive, and Luke Skywalker was one of them. (ref. I, Jedi). He also fooled Exar Kun, one of the most powerful Dark Lords to ever live, multiple times. If he can do that, Corran can fool Kyle. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Corran can win, but it's no cakewalk for Kyle.
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Remember that Kyle has much experience dealing with Force-illusions (ref. Jedi Knight II: Outcast). I find it unlikely that Corran could fool him. I think that Corran is just outmatched. He's a pushover compared to other Jedi, in spite of the title he wears.
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Oh. Well, I haven't played Outcast yet, so forgive my lack of knowledge.
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