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Earlier post on a different thread? If so, it'd be polite to, at the least, provide a link, or quote from it.Mange wrote:See my earlier post on this.Vendetta wrote:Since when has a terrorist threat been a matter for anyone other than the police?Mange wrote:since when has a terrorist threat been a "matter for the police"?
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First page on this very same thread:Molyneux wrote:Earlier post on a different thread? If so, it'd be polite to, at the least, provide a link, or quote from it.Mange wrote:See my earlier post on this.Vendetta wrote: Since when has a terrorist threat been a matter for anyone other than the police?
Mange wrote:Of course not, saying that "it's a matter for the police" is ignoring the fact that it's a political matter which our Prime Minister has been surprisingly silent on.Darth Wong wrote:What else would you suggest? Invading some random Middle East country?Mange wrote:since when has a terrorist threat been a "matter for the police"?
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I do find it an interesting parallel with a speech given at the Emmy's trashing Christianity.
The difference, of course, is that that speech has been yanked from any broadcast, and William Donohue of the Catholic Blubbering Idiot Union(I mean Catholic Values and Civic Rights group) is ranting about it left and right.
Freedom of expression: But only for expressions we like.
The difference, of course, is that that speech has been yanked from any broadcast, and William Donohue of the Catholic Blubbering Idiot Union(I mean Catholic Values and Civic Rights group) is ranting about it left and right.
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Why? I mean to most of the religious morons out there that would give them the moral high ground even though they are calling for the artists death. If all you do is have a normal looking Mohammed in a dignified pose, then it makes the Muslim reaction that much more ridiculous.Elfdart wrote:If the jihadists are going to put out holy contracts on cartoonists, why not give them something to really bitch about? Like Mohammed sucking a pig's dick in hell or something?
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I thought he said the police were looking into it. What else should he say? Are you saying that you actually want him to do some George W. Bush-style demagoguery on the subject?Mange wrote:Of course not, saying that "it's a matter for the police" is ignoring the fact that it's a political matter which our Prime Minister has been surprisingly silent on.Darth Wong wrote:What else would you suggest? Invading some random Middle East country?Mange wrote:since when has a terrorist threat been a "matter for the police"?

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Well, get to work on that shit and we can go about impressing you. You know, because your opinion means so much.Bubble Boy wrote:I'd be more impressed with that tune if you drew a picture publicized in a newspaper and muslims were offering rewards for your death.Stuart Mackey wrote:Nor am IFlagg wrote: No, I'm really not.
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Mike, of course not. I want the Prime Minister to condemn the threats against the artist, the publisher as well as the threats against Swedish corporations (such as Scania, Volvo and IKEA) and interests (which may require heightened security abroad). If I, as a Swedish citizen, thinks that the government has been too passive and not vocal enough when it comes to explaining the freedom of speech and the freedom of the press to the Middle Eastern countries which demands that we should change our laws to suit their religious beliefs, then it's my prerogative.Darth Wong wrote:I thought he said the police were looking into it. What else should he say? Are you saying that you actually want him to do some George W. Bush-style demagoguery on the subject?Mange wrote:Of course not, saying that "it's a matter for the police" is ignoring the fact that it's a political matter which our Prime Minister has been surprisingly silent on.Darth Wong wrote: What else would you suggest? Invading some random Middle East country?
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One thing about this kind free speech is, you will pissed people off. In this case, by pissing the muslim off, you are really asking for the terrorist to target your country.
In the end, if a terrorist attack succeeds, the artist may end up being the indirect cause of other innocents. The government can condemn the threats, but that does NOT stop the terrorist from making swedish a target!
In the end, if a terrorist attack succeeds, the artist may end up being the indirect cause of other innocents. The government can condemn the threats, but that does NOT stop the terrorist from making swedish a target!
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Ah, so you support suspension or destruction of basic liberties such as free speech to purchase temporary safety from an ultimately miniscule threat in the grand scheme of things.ray245 wrote:One thing about this kind free speech is, you will pissed people off. In this case, by pissing the muslim off, you are really asking for the terrorist to target your country.
In the end, if a terrorist attack succeeds, the artist may end up being the indirect cause of other innocents. The government can condemn the threats, but that does NOT stop the terrorist from making swedish a target!
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And when women get uppity and talk back to their Muslim husbands, they are really asking for their husbands to beat and kill them, right? You're a fucking idiot.ray245 wrote:One thing about this kind free speech is, you will pissed people off. In this case, by pissing the muslim off, you are really asking for the terrorist to target your country.

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And what do you think that kind of grandstanding will accomplish?Mange wrote:Mike, of course not. I want the Prime Minister to condemn the threats against the artist, the publisher as well as the threats against Swedish corporations (such as Scania, Volvo and IKEA) and interests (which may require heightened security abroad).Darth Wong wrote:I thought he said the police were looking into it. What else should he say? Are you saying that you actually want him to do some George W. Bush-style demagoguery on the subject?
You give no reason whatsoever to treat them as anything other than the criminals and thugs that they are, or to give their bullshit the attention that they crave.If I, as a Swedish citizen, thinks that the government has been too passive and not vocal enough when it comes to explaining the freedom of speech and the freedom of the press to the Middle Eastern countries which demands that we should change our laws to suit their religious beliefs, then it's my prerogative.

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Par for the course with this fucktard, Mike. And he never sticks around to defend anything either.Darth Wong wrote:And when women get uppity and talk back to their Muslim husbands, they are really asking for their husbands to beat and kill them, right? You're a fucking idiot.ray245 wrote:One thing about this kind free speech is, you will pissed people off. In this case, by pissing the muslim off, you are really asking for the terrorist to target your country.


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It would be nice if they would show solidarity with one of their citizens who is being unjustly targetted by a foreign operation for engaging in perfectly legal (and moral) activities within his own country. Assuming it's a big international story like last years Danish situation, that is.Darth Wong wrote:And what do you think that kind of grandstanding will accomplish?Mange wrote:Mike, of course not. I want the Prime Minister to condemn the threats against the artist, the publisher as well as the threats against Swedish corporations (such as Scania, Volvo and IKEA) and interests (which may require heightened security abroad).Darth Wong wrote:I thought he said the police were looking into it. What else should he say? Are you saying that you actually want him to do some George W. Bush-style demagoguery on the subject?You give no reason whatsoever to treat them as anything other than the criminals and thugs that they are, or to give their bullshit the attention that they crave.If I, as a Swedish citizen, thinks that the government has been too passive and not vocal enough when it comes to explaining the freedom of speech and the freedom of the press to the Middle Eastern countries which demands that we should change our laws to suit their religious beliefs, then it's my prerogative.
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"Show solidarity"? Is that what political grandstanding is called in America now?Flagg wrote:It would be nice if they would show solidarity with one of their citizens who is being unjustly targetted by a foreign operation for engaging in perfectly legal (and moral) activities within his own country. Assuming it's a big international story like last years Danish situation, that is.
It's OBVIOUSLY illegal, for fuck's sake. Standing up there and saying that it's illegal is merely stating the obvious, and saying "we condemn this horrible action by people who obviously hate our freedoms yadda yadda yadda" is not about solidarity; it is about grandstanding.

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I was thinking something more along the lines of "We continue to support the right of free expression our citizens are guaranteed by law" given as a statement during some other event. Especially considering how the Vatican and other religious organizations throughout the western world condemned the cartoonists in the last go round. There's a way to come out against something without waving your dick around and thumping your chest like a retarded monkey.Darth Wong wrote:"Show solidarity"? Is that what political grandstanding is called in America now?Flagg wrote:It would be nice if they would show solidarity with one of their citizens who is being unjustly targetted by a foreign operation for engaging in perfectly legal (and moral) activities within his own country. Assuming it's a big international story like last years Danish situation, that is.
It's OBVIOUSLY illegal, for fuck's sake. Standing up there and saying that it's illegal is merely stating the obvious, and saying "we condemn this horrible action by people who obviously hate our freedoms yadda yadda yadda" is not about solidarity; it is about grandstanding.
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If there are a lot of people in your country who are actually sympathetic to the ideas being espoused, then it may become necessary to make a point of publicly speaking out against them. In this case, it's totally pointless. Radical Muslims won't give a shit if some western politician reaffirms his country's commitment to free expression, and there is no growing political movement at home to appease them.Flagg wrote:I was thinking something more along the lines of "We continue to support the right of free expression our citizens are guaranteed by law" given as a statement during some other event. Especially considering how the Vatican and other religious organizations throughout the western world condemned the cartoonists in the last go round. There's a way to come out against something without waving your dick around and thumping your chest like a retarded monkey.

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Yeah, I admittedly don't know what the situation is in Sweden as far as their Mulsim population goes. If it's something people within Sweden are condemning, then I can't see a reason for a leader to make a statement like that.Darth Wong wrote:If there are a lot of people in your country who are actually sympathetic to the ideas being espoused, then it may become necessary to make a point of publicly speaking out against them. In this case, it's totally pointless. Radical Muslims won't give a shit if some western politician reaffirms his country's commitment to free expression, and there is no growing political movement at home to appease them.Flagg wrote:I was thinking something more along the lines of "We continue to support the right of free expression our citizens are guaranteed by law" given as a statement during some other event. Especially considering how the Vatican and other religious organizations throughout the western world condemned the cartoonists in the last go round. There's a way to come out against something without waving your dick around and thumping your chest like a retarded monkey.
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I can: grandstanding. You've seen plenty of it in the US; it's all about reminding people whose side you're on, in the hopes that they'll forget what an utterly venal, incompetent administrator you are.Flagg wrote:Yeah, I admittedly don't know what the situation is in Sweden as far as their Mulsim population goes. If it's something people within Sweden are condemning, then I can't see a reason for a leader to make a statement like that.Darth Wong wrote:If there are a lot of people in your country who are actually sympathetic to the ideas being espoused, then it may become necessary to make a point of publicly speaking out against them. In this case, it's totally pointless. Radical Muslims won't give a shit if some western politician reaffirms his country's commitment to free expression, and there is no growing political movement at home to appease them.Flagg wrote:I was thinking something more along the lines of "We continue to support the right of free expression our citizens are guaranteed by law" given as a statement during some other event. Especially considering how the Vatican and other religious organizations throughout the western world condemned the cartoonists in the last go round. There's a way to come out against something without waving your dick around and thumping your chest like a retarded monkey.

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Well, here's the thing, and this might come as some shock to you, I am not a news paper editor, drunk or otherwise, nor do I own a newspaper, so pulling that off is just a little tough.Bubble Boy wrote:I'd be more impressed with that tune if you drew a picture publicized in a newspaper and muslims were offering rewards for your death.
I just have to settle for putting or repeating such pictures on web pages under my own name {thats right 'bubble boy', that my own given name, not a an internet pen name, I take responsibility for the things I post), and I make no secret of the nation that I live in.
Oh, and lets not omit the fact that my name and address is publicly listed in a phone book that is available on the internet.
Not quite a newspaper, I am sure you will agree, but I do what I can.
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