CmdrWilkens wrote:Small note mostly because I'm a snob about my car but the Yaris in both Manual (36mpg) and Auto (35mpg) do get to that level in highway driving under the new system.
Highway driving yes, but NOT overall (city/highway combined), which is what CAFE ratings are based on.
The Spartan wrote:Under the new rating system, yes. Under the old rating system it was rated more like 60 mpg, as I recall, compared to your Echo's 40-43.
Nope. The Yaris was nowhere near 60 MPG under the old system. A brief glance at the fueleconomy.gov site indicates it was rated at 34/39 for the automatic (29/35 for the new '08 rating), and 34/40 (29/36 '08 rating) for the manual. For comparison, the Echo was rated at 32/38 for the automatic (27/35 '08 rating) and 34/41 manual (29/37 '08 rating). Only the Prius was ever rated at near 60 MPG (city), but now it's below 50 for '08.
BTW, I find it interesting to note that the Yaris is only very slightly better on the gas than the larger Corolla.
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Broomstick wrote:And just what will all that increased revenue pay for?
A programme to provide zero-interest loans to low income people so they can replace their old cars with modern high-efficiency cars, so that by 2020 we can eliminate all non-Commercial vehicles from the roads that make less than 35mpg.
Even if this tax managed to drop gasoline consumption in half, which I very much doubt will happen, you're still looking at something like $650 million in revenues every day, chances are it'll be a lot closer to a billion bucks a day, and that's in the first year with the $3 tax. That kind of income stream can do a lot more than simply paying for car loans, you could seize millions of gas guzzlers every year, crush them, and replace them with brand new fuel efficient cars and have money left over for nuke plants and infrastructure upgrades.
Point--and so much the better. Take was just one of numerous potential ideas, which came to me off the top of my head.
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The Spartan wrote:Under the new rating system, yes. Under the old rating system it was rated more like 60 mpg, as I recall, compared to your Echo's 40-43.
Nope. The Yaris was nowhere near 60 MPG under the old system. A brief glance at the fueleconomy.gov site indicates it was rated at 34/39 for the automatic (29/35 for the new '08 rating), and 34/40 (29/36 '08 rating) for the manual. For comparison, the Echo was rated at 32/38 for the automatic (27/35 '08 rating) and 34/41 manual (29/37 '08 rating). Only the Prius was ever rated at near 60 MPG (city), but now it's below 50 for '08.
BTW, I find it interesting to note that the Yaris is only very slightly better on the gas than the larger Corolla.
That was my mistake then. I was thinking of the Prius and got it confused with the Yaris.
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Ma Deuce wrote:
Nope. The Yaris was nowhere near 60 MPG under the old system.
What kind of Yaris? The european one are between 4.5 litre for 100km and 7 litre for 100km. Even a big limo like the BMW 530D is rated ar 6.4 litre for 100 km.
Ma Deuce wrote:
Nope. The Yaris was nowhere near 60 MPG under the old system.
What kind of Yaris? The european one are between 4.5 litre for 100km and 7 litre for 100km. Even a big limo like the BMW 530D is rated ar 6.4 litre for 100 km.
The only engine the Yaris gets on this continent is the 1.5L, 106hp 4-cyl petrol, and all body styles are rated for the same gas mileage. Also, please note that those figures are in US gallons, not the more common Imperial gallon (1 Imp. gallon = 1.2 US gallons).
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Thunderfire wrote:
The only engine the Yaris gets on this continent is the 1.5L, 106hp 4-cyl petrol, and all body styles are rated for the same gas mileage. Also, please note that those figures are in US gallons, not the more common Imperial gallon (1 Imp. gallon = 1.2 US gallons).
This engine is not available in europe. We get a 1.0 , 1.3 , 1.4 and a 1.8L engine. They would be between 33 and 51 MPG if my math if correct.
