Casino Royale (No spoilers)
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Saw it today with Ace and Faqa (And friend).
Utterly. Fucking. Awesome .
I still maintain my complaint that Pierce Brosnan looks more like "Bond" while Sean Connery is The Ultimate Bond, and that Craig is too damn blond looking. (And that Q would have made an excellent addition, he did have gadgets in the car such as the Defilibrator).
Apart from that, the movie fucking rocks from "I know where you keep your Gun" to the finale of "Bond, James Bond"
Utterly. Fucking. Awesome .
I still maintain my complaint that Pierce Brosnan looks more like "Bond" while Sean Connery is The Ultimate Bond, and that Craig is too damn blond looking. (And that Q would have made an excellent addition, he did have gadgets in the car such as the Defilibrator).
Apart from that, the movie fucking rocks from "I know where you keep your Gun" to the finale of "Bond, James Bond"
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I swear, it masculated me to such a point that I could've punched a mountain with my bare fists! I felt like taking steroids! If I was gay, or bisexual, I would've decapitated those naysayers with an erect penis!
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Great action scenes(that crane scene blew me away), Bond pulled off suave and human at the same time. Aside from not stripping the Bond girl, it was perfect.
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Great action scenes(that crane scene blew me away), Bond pulled off suave and human at the same time. Aside from not stripping the Bond girl, it was perfect.
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Saw it yesterday, and it was fucking awesome . Now Bond actually acts and looks like a guy who kills people and breaks stuff.
Near the end it faltered a bit, but got back on track soon enough.
Near the end it faltered a bit, but got back on track soon enough.
"Death before dishonour" they say, but how much dishonour are we talking about exactly? I mean, I can handle a lot. I could fellate a smurf if the alternative was death.
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They had a lot of fun filming that scene among others according to the official photo book on the movie. I expect it keeps you fit, what with jumping off cranes, between scaffolding and through walls.SylasGaunt wrote:The big free running chase at the start was great. Though I admit I had to keep from shouting out 'OH YEAH!' when bond did his Kool-Aid man impression.
Anyway it's a great way to renew the franchise.
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Just back from seeing it. Fan-fucking-tastic.
I agree Daniel Craig is an excellent Bond. The thing is, he is an excellent Bond in an excellent movie. If I had to pick one, I'd say Roger Moore was the worst Bond, but a large amount of that was the fact he was in stupid movies. Heck, I even liked Brosnan
I agree Daniel Craig is an excellent Bond. The thing is, he is an excellent Bond in an excellent movie. If I had to pick one, I'd say Roger Moore was the worst Bond, but a large amount of that was the fact he was in stupid movies. Heck, I even liked Brosnan
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Just back from an early daytime showing. Craig was excellent as Bond and ranks up there with Connery and Lazenby (yes, I think that Lazenby was excellent in OHMSS) and the movie was so much better than the two last disasters. If I have any complaints, it would be that the beginning of the film was a little too dragged out, but it was fun to see a Bond which wasn't quite agile yet (that improves during the movie) and I wasn't too keen about the scenes leading up to the end of the movie. The ball torture scene was painful, but there were great one-liners in there as well.
Oh, and the location in which Bond recovers after the events on the ship seems to be the exact same location which was used for the Lake Retreat in AOTC.
I highly recommend it.
Oh, and the location in which Bond recovers after the events on the ship seems to be the exact same location which was used for the Lake Retreat in AOTC.
I highly recommend it.
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Fantastic movie...though the ending dragged...a lot...too much even, and I still missed Q.
Looking forward to more from this Bond, and hopefully whatever the organization(SMERSH/SPECTRE II) that they use, because the villain was decent but nothing memorable.
Looking forward to more from this Bond, and hopefully whatever the organization(SMERSH/SPECTRE II) that they use, because the villain was decent but nothing memorable.
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I saw it tonight with Rebecca and we both liked it. Rebecca was a big fan and said it was the best Bond movie she'd ever seen. She also said that Daniel Craig makes her wet, which is probably one of the main selling points of the film.
Having said that, we both agreed that the first big fight scene was really fucking stupid. The moves that Bond and his quarry executed were virtually superhuman, and represented the sort of action-hero wankery that has infected far too many films lately. All the while Bond is chasing that other guy up into the half-completed apartment building, jumping from cranes and running on girders and generally defying death I was thinking "What are you Bond, fucking retarded? The guy is going up into a half-completed building! Where's he going to go from there? Just wait for him to come back down, you moron." That whole scene was totally unnecessary and Rebecca was rolling her eyes. She said she was almost ready to give up on the movie at that point, but it got a helluva lot better after that.
Having said that, we both agreed that the first big fight scene was really fucking stupid. The moves that Bond and his quarry executed were virtually superhuman, and represented the sort of action-hero wankery that has infected far too many films lately. All the while Bond is chasing that other guy up into the half-completed apartment building, jumping from cranes and running on girders and generally defying death I was thinking "What are you Bond, fucking retarded? The guy is going up into a half-completed building! Where's he going to go from there? Just wait for him to come back down, you moron." That whole scene was totally unnecessary and Rebecca was rolling her eyes. She said she was almost ready to give up on the movie at that point, but it got a helluva lot better after that.
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Apparently the Guy is a RL "City-runner", I've seen videos of amateurs doing it and its not that far-fetched (Theres an absolutely insane video of a Russian kid doing it somewhere in Google videos if you look).SylasGaunt wrote:I don't recall anything in there that was too bad, at least on Bond's side. The bomb-maker was all over the place like Spider Man but then the guy who played him is one of those crazy-ass Traceurs.
Though the crane-crane and crane-building leap were pushing it.
It is a esoteric sport, and the guy had non realistic endurance (keeping up a sprint non stop) but the stuff he did could mostly be replicated (And no comments on the "unrealism" of the initial running climb up the scaffolds side? ).
It was funy to see the Guy jump through windows then Bond simply run through the wall though
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Bond was still a newbie back then, so he likely wanted to show how good he was at chasing down that guy anyway, even if he just had to stay on the ground and follow him, though he may have also been expecting him to have some alternate means of getaway not thought of. Losing sight of his mark would be a bad thing to do, and it seems you'd need to follow him through sections that negated LOS viewing anyway.
One hell of a workout either way.
One hell of a workout either way.
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I'm well aware of the existance of Parkour/Free-Running hence why I referred to him as a 'crazy ass Traceur'. :pDEATH wrote: Apparently the Guy is a RL "City-runner", I've seen videos of amateurs doing it and its not that far-fetched (Theres an absolutely insane video of a Russian kid doing it somewhere in Google videos if you look).
It is a esoteric sport, and the guy had non realistic endurance (keeping up a sprint non stop) but the stuff he did could mostly be replicated (And no comments on the "unrealism" of the initial running climb up the scaffolds side? ).
As for the scaffold climb.. the bit where he went up the I-beam? It doesn't seem that out there considering I've seen video of that guy clinging to the side of a brick wall supported only by his feet and the grip his hands can get in that little intendation between bricks.
Oh and waiting for him to come back down wouldn't have really worked given that he came down on top of a completely different building.
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I think the "action wank" was mostly down to the seemingly endless stamina of Bond and the bad guy he was chasing (apart from that, running through and climbing up a building site is not impossible). And Bond was perhaps so heavily focused on his mark, common sense and logical planning took a backseat to a gung-ho Bond (this was confirmed when Bond waltzed into a foreign embassy, thoughtlessly shooting things up and causing an embarrassing international incident for MI6).Darth Wong wrote: Having said that, we both agreed that the first big fight scene was really fucking stupid. The moves that Bond and his quarry executed were virtually superhuman, and represented the sort of action-hero wankery that has infected far too many films lately. All the while Bond is chasing that other guy up into the half-completed apartment building, jumping from cranes and running on girders and generally defying death I was thinking "What are you Bond, fucking retarded? The guy is going up into a half-completed building! Where's he going to go from there? Just wait for him to come back down, you moron." That whole scene was totally unnecessary and Rebecca was rolling her eyes. She said she was almost ready to give up on the movie at that point, but it got a helluva lot better after that.
Anyway I'v seen Casino Royale again and one thing still bothers me: Why does Bond realise Mathis is corrupt when Vesper Lynd receives a text message from Mathis himself? Bond goes "Mathis? ...Mathis!" then he goes after Vesper and see her being bundled into a black car driven by Le Chiffre's goons.
Any clear explanation of the only part of the story that really bothered me?
Also Why does M think Mathis is "cleared" of being a mole, after Vesper's herself double crossed Bond, when Mathis was acting in a suspicious manner when he was arrested by two MI6 officers (he was poisoning Bond)?
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Besides Vesper, he's the only person who could've told Le Chiffre about his twitching-eye tell. Since he trusted Vesper, Mathis had to be the one who told Le Chiffre about it.Big Orange wrote: Anyway I'v seen Casino Royale again and one thing still bothers me: Why does Bond realise Mathis is corrupt when Vesper Lynd receives a text message from Mathis himself? Bond goes "Mathis? ...Mathis!" then he goes after Vesper and see her being bundled into a black car driven by Le Chiffre's goons.
Any clear explanation of the only part of the story that really bothered me?
I don't remember, but did the agents show up on screen before or after Mathis poisoned the drink? If they didn't see him do it, then they wouldn't have had any hard evidence against himAlso Why does M think Mathis is "cleared" of being a mole, after Vesper's herself double crossed Bond, when Mathis was acting in a suspicious manner when he was arrested by two MI6 officers (he was poisoning Bond)?
Anyone else think that Le Chiffre's girlfriend may have had a running plot at some time but it got cut? She seems to get a fair ammount of screen time but doesn't actually do much.
She gets used to show how hartless Le Chiffre is when the warlords ment threaten to cut her hand off and then gets to poison bond which any henchman could have done and thats it. I think she might have had something else at some point but got cut to get the film down to less than 2.5 hours.
She gets used to show how hartless Le Chiffre is when the warlords ment threaten to cut her hand off and then gets to poison bond which any henchman could have done and thats it. I think she might have had something else at some point but got cut to get the film down to less than 2.5 hours.
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I think it's safe to say most spoilers have been shown by now anyway and anyone reading this has got the gist of it anyway.
The trailer, as with most movie trailers it seems, showed some scenes not in the final cut. It could be she had a bigger role, but it was toned down at the last minute. Mr. White, at least, is part of a bigger picture. Perhaps Le Chiffre's girlfriend was related to this organisation somehow.
The trailer, as with most movie trailers it seems, showed some scenes not in the final cut. It could be she had a bigger role, but it was toned down at the last minute. Mr. White, at least, is part of a bigger picture. Perhaps Le Chiffre's girlfriend was related to this organisation somehow.
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Maybe she survived and went with Mr. White, when Mr. White himself went right up to Le Chiffre and planted a bullet in his head? And I find it odd that two thugs from some Third World backwater could track Le Chiffre down to his hotel room, although Le Chiffre and his entourage may have been under the heavy surveillance by Mr. White's "Organisation" (as well as by MI6 and the CIA), so they may have tipped off the rebel leader to Le Chiffre's precise location (with Le Chiffre's girlfriend also part of the "Organisation's" stakeout).Admiral Valdemar wrote: The trailer, as with most movie trailers it seems, showed some scenes not in the final cut. It could be she had a bigger role, but it was toned down at the last minute. Mr. White, at least, is part of a bigger picture. Perhaps Le Chiffre's girlfriend was related to this organisation somehow.
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That's exactly the problem; it was treated as a sport rather than a logical progression of events in character. Logically, the guy had a fucking gun. He should have simply carjacked somebody. I don't care how fast you think you are, you'll get away more effectively if you carjack somebody. Especially since you don't know how many agents are after you. But oh no, that wouldn't have shown off his mad skillz, right? The scene played like wankery, not like a logical series of events.DEATH wrote:Apparently the Guy is a RL "City-runner", I've seen videos of amateurs doing it and its not that far-fetched (Theres an absolutely insane video of a Russian kid doing it somewhere in Google videos if you look).SylasGaunt wrote:I don't recall anything in there that was too bad, at least on Bond's side. The bomb-maker was all over the place like Spider Man but then the guy who played him is one of those crazy-ass Traceurs.
Though the crane-crane and crane-building leap were pushing it.
Why pick out specifics in a scene that makes no sense from top to bottom? Why did this imbecile even run up into a half-completed building in the first place, other than to show off?It is a esoteric sport, and the guy had non realistic endurance (keeping up a sprint non stop) but the stuff he did could mostly be replicated (And no comments on the "unrealism" of the initial running climb up the scaffolds side? ).
Funny and incredibly retarded. Bond should have run face-first into a wall stud.It was funy to see the Guy jump through windows then Bond simply run through the wall though
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As far as recall that scene's quite ambiquous. Sure he made something up for bond, but was it poison? Or just his medicine for the day?Shadow WarChief wrote:I don't remember, but did the agents show up on screen before or after Mathis poisoned the drink? If they didn't see him do it, then they wouldn't have had any hard evidence against himAlso Why does M think Mathis is "cleared" of being a mole, after Vesper's herself double crossed Bond, when Mathis was acting in a suspicious manner when he was arrested by two MI6 officers (he was poisoning Bond)?
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I rather liked that first part chase scene. I mean, the pre-intro-credit part shows a Craig as an un-Bondly cold-blooded killer. Then that bigarse action scene shows us Bond going all Macho Bullshit. And that Bond in the shower with the crying girl shows something that's never really happened in a lot of Bond movies, I think. I mean, normally Bond would've just mumbled some bit of innuendo and then they'd have screwed each other's brains out. The torture scene shows us how this Bond's, well, got balls.
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