[Discussion] Andrew_Fireborn

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2007-07-01 08:31pm

Does the Senate think we should do anything about Andrew_Fireborn? His behavior in the thread Conflicting Messages from girls is frankly repulsive.

One choice quote from him:

Andrew_Fireborn wrote:Oh, I am an asshole. That I acknowledge. I love watching people I hate suffer. And yes, toying with my feelings is a quick trip onto the list of people I despise.

CmdrWilkens · Post by **CmdrWilkens** » 2007-07-01 09:58pm

Honestly still too early in my opinion. He's definately (since I firs tviewed the thread) on my list of folks to watch out for but as of yet other than admitting to being a douche he really hasn't stirred the pot in ways that call for action.

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2007-07-01 11:04pm

Just a mouthy little punk who needs to have the shit kicked out of him a couple of times, and he's chosen the perfect place for that experience.

Let him suffer the rewards of his stupidity.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2007-07-01 11:54pm

Do we have the power to independently pass a resolution warning someone about their behaviour, without actually punishing them?

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2007-07-01 11:59pm

The Duchess of Zeon wrote:Do we have the power to independently pass a resolution warning someone about their behaviour, without actually punishing them?

The Senate can certainly request a formal Moderator warning. Typically, however, Moderator warnings are a one-time offer.

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2007-07-02 12:04am

I've been keeping an eye on the thread, since it is my forum. I had not yet seen cause to move against him, as the forum members were doing a fine job of eating him alive.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2007-07-02 12:51am

Poor bastard missed out on his AYVB membership, he's too old.

I wonder if it would make a difference if he realised that it was mostly females in that thread he was arguing with.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2007-07-02 01:07am

SirNitram wrote:
The Duchess of Zeon wrote:Do we have the power to independently pass a resolution warning someone about their behaviour, without actually punishing them?
The Senate can certainly request a formal Moderator warning. Typically, however, Moderator warnings are a one-time offer.

Good, because nobody needs more than one warning, least of all him.

That said, he doesn't need to be punished--but he should be duly informed by someone in the appropriate place of power that boasting about being a misanthropic sociopath on this board is going to get him in very hot water, very fast.

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2007-07-02 09:28am

Fine, Duchess. I've warned them and locked the thread. Happy?

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2007-07-02 03:46pm

LadyTevar wrote:Fine, Duchess. I've warned them and locked the thread. Happy?

Uhm, actually, I'd just sort of raised it as a compromise proposal. It was seriously not a big deal for me.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2007-07-02 06:32pm

Probably was a good idea to lock that. Good thread though, touched on a few concepts that a number of guys have trouble with. Us single guys don't typically get a lot of feedback on that kind of thing.

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2007-07-02 06:52pm

Out of curiosity will this mean censure of folk who are genocidal fuckwits or does it only extend as far as folk who annoy others in the relationships forum?

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2007-07-02 07:18pm

The senate didn't really do anything here so I guess to be consistent it would be a mod call.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2007-07-02 08:30pm

ARSE has different standards than the rest of the board, IMO, which is already reflected in the fact that it can only be visited by members.

CmdrWilkens · Post by **CmdrWilkens** » 2007-07-03 08:40am

It really is a matter of mods looking at threads which hold the possibility of doing harm in the actions of the posters making comments. In ARSE the likelyhood is much higher that a poster can begin stepping down a very negative path and so it should be monitored closely but in the end is a Mod call whether the thread should be locked, the poster warned, or the matter brough to the Senate or even just straight to the Emperor for summary punishment due to egregious offense. (As we should remember that the Senate is here when the mods and the Emperor want a second opinion for action not as the sole source of action it seems we are beginning to function as)

Post by **Edi** » 2007-07-03 10:03am

ARSE is a designated non-flame zone, so in that context the lock was a good thing, even though the flaming of the main targets was highly deserved. The only other option would have been to HoS it, which would not have been a good idea given how useful that thread is as reference material in ARSE.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2007-07-03 12:07pm

CmdrWilkens wrote:It really is a matter of mods looking at threads which hold the possibility of doing harm in the actions of the posters making comments. In ARSE the likelyhood is much higher that a poster can begin stepping down a very negative path and so it should be monitored closely but in the end is a Mod call whether the thread should be locked, the poster warned, or the matter brough to the Senate or even just straight to the Emperor for summary punishment due to egregious offense. (As we should remember that the Senate is here when the mods and the Emperor want a second opinion for action not as the sole source of action it seems we are beginning to function as)

The correct way to look at it is like an early-modern Parliament, we only function with real powers when the King calls for our assembly.

CmdrWilkens · Post by **CmdrWilkens** » 2007-07-03 02:59pm

The Duchess of Zeon wrote: The correct way to look at it is like an early-modern Parliament, we only function with real powers when the King calls for our assembly.

I would even think of it as us simply being the House of Commons alone while the King takes the majority of his advice and executes his authority through actions of the peers within the House of Lords.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2007-07-03 10:46pm

yes, ARSE: The forum that has its own AYVB detector built in...