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Eh.. What the heck? What kind of brainwashing technique is this? Does it even work?!
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Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:Eh.. What the heck? What kind of brainwashing technique is this? Does it even work?!
ITT we learn that while Zombies and Vampires are acceptable, Clockwork Orange is not. :D

And technically, it isn't brainwashing, it's conditioning. This is not The Shroomchurian Candidate.
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It's basically teaching Sheppo Japanistani table manners in the most asshole sadistic way possible? :lol:
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I love how Fin is basically re-inventing the wheel there. The Old Dominion began to transition to an alcohol-economy in the first thread. :D
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Lonestar wrote:I love how Fin is basically re-inventing the wheel there. The Old Dominion began to transition to an alcohol-economy in the first thread. :D
Erm. I stated from the start that I was pushing algae based biofuels from the first thread. Moreover a law was passed years ago dictating the need for 25% biofuel composition.

And unlike some people, I like to be realistic on research timings, and I don't like to pretend things can appear at a fickle of a thumb.. like hoping that say polywell can turn in net power production and that say 3He fusion can be achieved within a decade that easily.
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There! Buy our stuff! BUY IT RIGHT NOW!!!
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Bah, damned UCAVs. What is this, Ace Combat 3?! :P
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Steve wrote:Bah, damned UCAVs. What is this, Ace Combat 3?! :P
F-35! Buy it now! Well, I know you have, but Crossroads should as well. 5th gen, for export! Carrier, CTOL, and STOVL.
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Beowulf will be along shortly to kill you for not referring to it as the MQ-19. :D

(I wouldn't worry though; I already make him twitch over my F/A-35 :twisted: ).
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RogueIce wrote:
Steve wrote:Bah, damned UCAVs. What is this, Ace Combat 3?! :P
F-35! Buy it now! Well, I know you have, but Crossroads should as well. 5th gen, for export! Carrier, CTOL, and STOVL.
You mean the MSF-15N. :wink:

Granted, the RCAF did it's own thing and developed the ASF-18 and ASF-20 (based on the XF-32 and YF-23 respectively) in the time frame of the late late 90s to 2012.
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RogueIce wrote: Beowulf will be along shortly to kill you for not referring to it as the MQ-19. :D

(I wouldn't worry though; I already make him twitch over my F/A-35 :twisted: ).
And AV-35 :)
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Steve wrote:Bah, damned UCAVs. What is this, Ace Combat 3?! :P
Remember Steve, the Pacunion has a baby UCAV program (or atleast Alaska did)
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MariusRoi wrote:
Steve wrote:Bah, damned UCAVs. What is this, Ace Combat 3?! :P
Remember Steve, the Pacunion has a baby UCAV program (or atleast Alaska did)
Probably got folded into the new PacUnion Defense Department.
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Lonestar wrote:
RogueIce wrote: Beowulf will be along shortly to kill you for not referring to it as the MQ-19. :D

(I wouldn't worry though; I already make him twitch over my F/A-35 :twisted: ).
And AV-35 :)
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Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:And unlike some people, I like to be realistic on research timings, and I don't like to pretend things can appear at a fickle of a thumb.. like hoping that say polywell can turn in net power production and that say 3He fusion can be achieved within a decade that easily.
People much smarter than me believe that polywell can manage to achieve break-even fusion. The real EMC2 corporation believes that it has sufficient knowledge of the scaling factors to be able to do it right now if they could get the funding. The USN has given funding as well as $2 million in the stimulus act. The proposed method to avoid neutron activation is not He3, but rather PB11 fusion. In game, they got a lot higher funding, and were able to demonstrate the technology sooner.
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Beowulf wrote:People much smarter than me believe that polywell can manage to achieve break-even fusion. The real EMC2 corporation believes that it has sufficient knowledge of the scaling factors to be able to do it right now if they could get the funding. The USN has given funding as well as $2 million in the stimulus act. The proposed method to avoid neutron activation is not He3, but rather PB11 fusion. In game, they got a lot higher funding, and were able to demonstrate the technology sooner.
3He doesn't produce neutrons, it produces protons which can be contained a lot more adequately. Proton-Boron on the other hand needs much higher temperatures to get there. That doesn't imply, that the technology is capable of scaling up to the levels required to provide net fusion and no where have they come close. So far, Polywell has shown to be an efficient neutron producer at the small scale. I'd wait for whether they would even succeed with a larger device.

Polywell is just a glorified Penning Ion Trap (which I bet you don't even know what the hell that is) with very tight confinement and deep trap depth. But ion traps (or at least the small Pauli ones I have seen and worked) have been known to have very queer habits at the extreme scales which is why work on micro traps continues at NIST and they aren't even perfected yet. Worst still you are now talking about a large plasma which exerts a huge magnetic field and electric field and scaling that up means a correspondingly larger. And then in turn a fething large faraday cage.

Science is littered with too many optimists and too many good salesmen, and too many damn simulations that have a knack for missing important perimeters. String theory was all the rage 10 years ago, and hey look, nothing much has been achieved beyond some optimistic projections and a few very good salesmen overselling the damn science and screwing over too many graduate students who probably are better off as mathematicians rather than physicists (and many are probably biophysicists right now).
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PeZook wrote:There! Buy our stuff! BUY IT RIGHT NOW!!!
Looks liek you've been doing some industrial espionage for mah MQ-8D :(
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Of course :D

But seriously, I had no idea you were using the same pic, so I guess it's just a similar thingy developed independently.
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PeZook wrote:Of course :D

But seriously, I had no idea you were using the same pic, so I guess it's just a similar thingy developed independently.

The problem is that there are only so many pictures out there...
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Lonestar wrote:
Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:Eh.. What the heck? What kind of brainwashing technique is this? Does it even work?!
ITT we learn that while Zombies and Vampires are acceptable, Clockwork Orange is not. :D
Whoever said they were acceptable, either? :roll:
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Well, our first mod opened the door to a particular kind of vampire, and then everyone decided to do the "rage Virus" stuff as well....
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Steve wrote:Well, our first mod opened the door to a particular kind of vampire, and then everyone decided to do the "rage Virus" stuff as well....
Well, if this "pulling out of the hat" continues, what next? A rage virus that spreads through air?
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Isn't that what the one everyone talks about does?

And I did try to argue against it but Shroom and a couple others had to have their RAGE ZOMBIES and stuff. :P
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Steve wrote:Isn't that what the one everyone talks about does?
Err, no?

There's the Astarian zombie fever pathogen, which insofar as I know is supposed to be born of the mix of chemical and biological cocktails in which Astaria was showered but which isn't airborne, and there's the U4 substance developed by SinTEK, which is a chemical weapon, not a virus.

People seem to use 'rage zombie' to refer to both, but U4 doesn't turn people into 'zombies', it turns them hyperaggressive for a while but as PeZook's post shows its effects wear off after a while.
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Ryan Thunder wrote: Whoever said they were acceptable, either? :roll:
ITT we also learn that Ryan doesn't fucking read the STGOD threads worth a damn.
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Steve wrote:Isn't that what the one everyone talks about does?

And I did try to argue against it but Shroom and a couple others had to have their RAGE ZOMBIES and stuff. :P
Rage "zombies" are basically just people with SUPER RABIES who impulsively try to infect others by means of biting them and transmitting PRECIOUS BODILY FLUIDS. If it can happen to dogs and other animuls, why not people? Of course, since it's like a bioweapon or something, its virulence would be higher - meaning the infection would take effect faster and would be more contagious.

It doesn't bring the dead back to life at all. Compared to this vampire cyborg werewolf chopper dave stuff, this is downright realistic. :P

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Hey, does anyone know what kind of 1960s-era Soviet fighter plane could be plausibly repurposed for carrier aviation? Stas has suggested the MiG-19, but I want MOAR!
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Lonestar, that's brilliant. An attack by "somebody from the North" :D.
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