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Ghost in the Shell
Cowboy Bebob
Evangelion
Clone Wars
Gargoyles
WALL-E
Avatar The Last Airbender
Star Trek TAS

Quite a lineup!

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Ghost in the Shell - I'm quite interested in what he has to say about this. It's a classic, but I do think it's rather dry. I'm wondering how my thoughts on the movie have been shaped by seeing the TV series - which I consider superior - first.
Cowboy Bebop, Gargoyles, Avatar: The Last Airbender - Excellent choices all, but I do wonder how he's going to review them. Is he doing specific episodes or general overviews of the entire series? Or is he going to do what he did for MLPFIM and summarize the first episodes/pilot and finish up with overall thoughts? (In the case of Bebop, I suppose he could be taking on the movie.)
Evangelion - My blood pressure went up just from seeing the preview. I'm not even kidding with that. I hate Rebuild so much that thinking of it makes me physically uncomfortable. I'll probably skip those reviews, but briefly express my condescension in the comments section. (The really unpleasant part is that I had been entertaining thoughts of donating and making a request for End of Evangelion - something that would provide a much richer basis for analysis. Though I suppose dissecting the flaws in the script of 2.22 could be quite a bit of work too.)
Clone Wars, Star Trek TAS - Meh. Never seen them, so I don't care too much.
WALL-E - This is the one I'm looking forward to the most. It's one of my favorite movies and I'm quite curious how he'll handle it. The thing with Wall-E is that far too many people forget the essential fact that it's a love story first and foremost, so I hope he won't focus too much on the science fiction.
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Bright wrote: Evangelion - My blood pressure went up just from seeing the preview. I'm not even kidding with that. I hate Rebuild so much that thinking of it makes me physically uncomfortable. I'll probably skip those reviews, but briefly express my condescension in the comments section. (The really unpleasant part is that I had been entertaining thoughts of donating and making a request for End of Evangelion - something that would provide a much richer basis for analysis. Though I suppose dissecting the flaws in the script of 2.22 could be quite a bit of work too.)
That is an epic level of hate there Bright. Nothing I can't understand though, I have an irrationally strong hatred of some media too. :lol:

As for the lineup it looks fairly interesting. I have fond childhood nostalgia for Gargoyles and WALL-E has got to be one of my all time favorite love and sci-fi stories. Cowboy Bebop should be interesting as well. I haven't seen Ghost in the Shell, Clone Wars or Star Trek: TAS so I can't say I'm looking forward to those reviews.
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Sweet. I'm a fan of Ghost in the Shell and Cowboy Bebop. Well, I've only seen the Stand Alone Complex series for GitS, and the Solid State movie. I haven't seen the first two films for it. Did enjoy the series a lot though, though the overall story arc for both seasons were so complex that I only just understood them in the final episode of each respective season. Good payoff though.

What's wrong with Evangelion? I've never seen it before. Did they ruin it with a crappy reboot or something?
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Revy wrote:What's wrong with Evangelion? I've never seen it before. Did they ruin it with a crappy reboot or something?
Basically, yes. And it introduced a whole new unnecessary character with a wanky new Eva unit that sidelines an existing character. And then there are the changes to said existing characters...

Or at least so I'm told. I never actually bothered to find out because frankly I was satisfied with the original, and heard/seen enough to just move on from Evangelion for the most part.

All that said, I understand why Chuck would choose to review the reboot instead of the original show. Because its in the form of hour long OVAs, it fits his format better. Plus, if he has never seen the show until now (and that's probably the case), it would be easier for him to just pop it into the DVD player and get the review on. All said and done, I'm actually looking forward to seeing his opinion of Rebuild. I don't intend at this time to watch it so I'm not afraid of spoilers. And Chuck is comprehensive enough that his rundown will be fairly complete, so I can see just how divergent the reboots really are.

Also, reviewing End of Evangelion without reviewing the show just wouldn't work. You can't understand that movie without knowledge of how things got so bad in the first place. I know this because that was how I was introduced to Eva-- a friend of mine thought he would just show it to me when at the time I wasn't even aware anime was a thing. Suffice to say, it wasn't until a couple years later I finally rediscovered it.

Now, given what I said about Eva original not fitting Chuck's format, now I wonder how exactly he will do Cowboy Beebop and Ghost in the Shell.
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well Chuck has reviewed movies in the past like the Two Towers or the Dark Knight, so they'd probably multi-parters with a recap/conclutions at the final part.

that would work at least with the Ghost in the Shell movie as it's quite stand alone.

with Cowboy Beebop it depends on weather it's the whole thing or just the movie.

either way we'll just have to wait and see I suppose.
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Revy wrote:What's wrong with Evangelion? I've never seen it before. Did they ruin it with a crappy reboot or something?
To expand a little on what Formless said, there are those who view Rebuild as a crappy reboot and those who view Rebuild as a an improved version of the original. From what I've seen the two sides do not get along very well. I've seen both and the original is a psychological drama while Rebuild has greatly toned down the psych elements and played up the giant robot parts. They're different enough that they're not two sides of the same coin but more like two different coins from the same currency. The extreme divisiveness I've noticed means that some people will call one of the a penny and worthless and the other a high value coin rather often but what can you do? :lol: For my part I happen to enjoy them both for what they are, Chuck's review should be interesting.
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Formless wrote:All that said, I understand why Chuck would choose to review the reboot instead of the original show.
He's doing it because someone made a request. It's as simple as that. I recall a comment by the person who made the request that he wanted to see whether the remake stood on its own like it was supposed to.

(Also, they're full-length movies, not OVAs.)
Formless wrote:Also, reviewing End of Evangelion without reviewing the show just wouldn't work.
Oh, I know that. It would also take a fair bit of research into anime culture and the director's mental state to be be able to speak about it with authority. The sheer amount of work required to tackle a single 90-minute film was why I was hesitant about ever requesting it.
Lord Revan wrote:with Cowboy Beebop it depends on weather it's the whole thing or just the movie.
I noticed that the clips he showed in the preview were from the series.
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Bright wrote:He's doing it because someone made a request. It's as simple as that. I recall a comment by the person who made the request that he wanted to see whether the remake stood on its own like it was supposed to.
Interesting. That makes sense too.
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What? No Legend of the Galactic Heroes?
JK, THAT would be a hell of an undertaking!
Looking forwards to Star Trek Animated, I remember staying up super late to watch it on teletoon. Aah, nostalgia.
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I'm definitely looking forward to seeing him review The Clone Wars.
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The April schedule:

6-Apr • City on the Edge of Forever
9-Apr • B5: Voices In The Dark
12-Apr • Firefly: Shindig
14-Apr • Cause And Effect
17-Apr • Cowboy Bebop
19-Apr • Clone Wars:Nightsisters Trilogy
21-Apr • The Visitor
24-Apr • Gargoyles
26-Apr • Ghost In The Shell
28-Apr • Relativity
30-Apr • Yesteryear

Chuck's also revamped his website (and stuff).
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Looking at the line up I'm much more interested in the Live Action reviews than the animated. More B5, more Firefly. And some high quality Star Trek. Which will hopefully be more analysis on it being good than just '"funny" recap' videos.
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Formless wrote:All that said, I understand why Chuck would choose to review the reboot instead of the original show. Because its in the form of hour long OVAs, it fits his format better.
This is a nitpick, but I'm pretty sure the reboot movies were in fact theatrically released feature films.
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Ah, whatever. :P Theatrically released in Japan, or at least I never saw it in Denver's local listings. :wink:
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There's a few comparison shots that make a good case for Rebuild being a psuedo-sequel... But, I didn't like the original, so eh.

Still, more excited for GitS than most of the rest combined.
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Uraniun235 wrote: This is a nitpick, but I'm pretty sure the reboot movies were in fact theatrically released feature films.
Basically the biggest feature films ever released in Japan, even.
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And they do get runs in the US--just in very small openings at indie/art house theaters or ones near or at a large anime convention.
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What can anyone expect from a single 'review' for a 26 episode series? Gotta save up time for Cause and Effect, I guess.

'Sap to audience' anyone?
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I'm curious to see how he's going to review ATLA.
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That's what 'sap to audience' means. People want to hear about their special love show, not just fuckign Star Trek, so do something absurd like give an entire series a single review. People will love hearing you say the name of their special love show.
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There's one born every minute, after all. Doesn't make it less hilarious. Hopefully the format has changed so that it's not 'entire season gets a third the time of a movie'. :v
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Stark wrote:People will love hearing you say the name of their special love show.
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Stark wrote:'Sap to audience' anyone?
Wait, is that an actual term?

Anyway, Chuck went beyond the call of duty in his review of Mass Effect 2, so I expect a bit more than a single 15 minute video to cover all of ATLA/Cowboy Bebop/Gargoyles. And I don't see anything particularly wrong with him expanding his selection. Not only does it probably gain him more viewers, it also probably makes his work more interesting to himself as well.
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