Enigma wrote:What intrigues me and apparently I haven't understood it is that when KBH was born was apparently important, that being 407 days after the Baron's disappearance.
To make it clear that he was really Bill's son, and not Klaus'.
ISTR that was popular fan spec around that time.
And obviously, Higgs = KBH requires timetravel - possible, but unlikely IMO.
Not necessarily. If GG takes place twenty years after the Heterodyne boys disappeared and KBH is alive then he'd be at least 22 years old. How old is Higgs?
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Higgs is not a Heterodyne. He is a Jaegerkin, and old enough to remember other Masters. He is old enough to talk back to the Castle and get it to agree with him. And yes, he has been refered to as BOSUN Higgs.
Either way, he is not Bill's son, not Bill in disguise (as the Castle would have been 'enjoying' itself playing with the Hero), and he is certainly more than 'just' Jaegerkin. I agree he is most likely one of the two missing Jaeger generals.
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besisdes the he talks back to the castle and says that it gets secure a new Hetrodyne every 20 years or so, which means that he's been around for a while.
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LadyTevar wrote:Higgs is not a Heterodyne. He is a Jaegerkin, and old enough to remember other Masters. He is old enough to talk back to the Castle and get it to agree with him. And yes, he has been refered to as BOSUN Higgs.
Either way, he is not Bill's son, not Bill in disguise (as the Castle would have been 'enjoying' itself playing with the Hero), and he is certainly more than 'just' Jaegerkin. I agree he is most likely one of the two missing Jaeger generals.
Can't be Jaegerkin unless he's been booted because if he was a Jaeger then he would not been allowed into the town before the Doom Bell rang. He certainly doesn't act like a Jaeger. He's an interesting mystery. He has to be someone important if he's willing to kill to conceal his true identity.
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LadyTevar wrote:Higgs is not a Heterodyne. He is a Jaegerkin, and old enough to remember other Masters. He is old enough to talk back to the Castle and get it to agree with him. And yes, he has been refered to as BOSUN Higgs.
Either way, he is not Bill's son, not Bill in disguise (as the Castle would have been 'enjoying' itself playing with the Hero), and he is certainly more than 'just' Jaegerkin. I agree he is most likely one of the two missing Jaeger generals.
Can't be Jaegerkin unless he's been booted because if he was a Jaeger then he would not been allowed into the town before the Doom Bell rang. He certainly doesn't act like a Jaeger. He's an interesting mystery. He has to be someone important if he's willing to kill to conceal his true identity.
Just like Mamma wasn't in the town before the Doom Bell rang.
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Are you agreeing or? Sorry, half past midnight here.
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He's saying that the Jaegers can and will find ways to get around those prohibitions. Mamma wasn't "in" the town, she was technically under it. Higgs waasn't in Mechanicsburg for probably most of the time he's been employed with the Baron as a random mook. However, with his unique (as far as we have seen) ability to disguise himself as human, and all the chaos around Mechanicsburg, he probably figured that it would be good to be near/in/around Mechanicsburg to see and evaluate for himself the situation. And since he is the hidden general and won't reveal himself, nobody will catch him, right?
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Is still don't think he'd break the rule about Jaegers entering the town before the Doom Bell rang. He wasn't interested in what was going on (at least he wasn't at first), he was ordered by Gil to help him. So Higgs entered the town proper and the castle.
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Mamma most certainly was in the town. We saw her on the ground floor of her building several times. She hid in plain sight because of the nature of her establishment. Other Yeagers stayed underneath, but it was readily apparent Mamma was out and about.
Vole also completely ignored all Yeager rules.
So Higgs could easily be a Yeager. The rules are bent all the time.
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Ahriman238 wrote:Vole isn't a Jaeger anymore, but that's a bit besides the point.
When you define Yeagar as a way of life, that is correct. But biologically, Vole is most certainly Yeager.
It seems pretty clear between Mamma and Agatha's Jaegers that the rules matter only if they get caught.
I still don't think Higgs is a Jaeger though.
Agreed. Especially with the whole "I'd tell you, but then he'd have to kill you" line from the Castle. Higgs is something else.
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I do not dispute his biology, but he has thoroughly rejected and spat on the Jaeger way of life. Ergo, he is not considered a Jaeger by the Jagerkin or people of Mechanicsburg, hence why he was able to roam the city freely.
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Ahriman238 wrote:Vole isn't a Jaeger anymore, but that's a bit besides the point.
When you define Yeagar as a way of life, that is correct. But biologically, Vole is most certainly Yeager.
It seems pretty clear between Mamma and Agatha's Jaegers that the rules matter only if they get caught.
I still don't think Higgs is a Jaeger though.
Agreed. Especially with the whole "I'd tell you, but then he'd have to kill you" line from the Castle. Higgs is something else.
Out of intrest, why are you spelling Jaeger with a Y?
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Ahriman238 wrote:I do not dispute his biology, but he has thoroughly rejected and spat on the Jaeger way of life. Ergo, he is not considered a Jaeger by the Jagerkin or people of Mechanicsburg, hence why he was able to roam the city freely.
Roam the city freely? Did you read his entry on the cast page? Where the jaegers weren't allowed in Mechanicsberg, he wasn't allowed out. He was trapped inside the city walls.
They theoretically could do that with the same system they neutralized the C-Gas with - along with any other stuff that can fit through pipes Oh, the possibilities!
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OF COURSE IT DIT - What sense would a self-repair function make it it DIDN'T release monsters! *tsk*
A minute's thought suggests that the very idea of this is stupid. A more detailed examination raises the possibility that it might be an answer to the question "how could the Germans win the war after the US gets involved?" - Captain Seafort, in a thread proposing a 1942 'D-Day' in Quiberon Bay
I'm not surprised that the castle did this since it needed to be fully functional in order to REALLY help Agatha.
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"Whilst human alchemists refer to the combustion triangle, some of their orcish counterparts see it as more of a hexagon: heat, fuel, air, laughter, screaming, fun." Dawn of the Dragons
