Father-of-four jailed for subjecting his children to 'Guantanamo Bay-style' waterboarding and electric shock punishments
A father-of-four who used an electric shock collar and water torture to discipline his children has been jailed for 16 years.
David Liskany, 39, forced his three sons and daughter to wear a shock collars' which are usually used to train dogs.
A judge told Liskany the treatment he meted out to his children made the family home in the U.S state of Ohia, like the Guantanamo Bay detention camp.
Whenever the children misbehaved he was able to send an electric shock through their bodies.
A court in the U.S. also heard that Liskany would pour water over his children's faces until they were nearly choking.
The torture is known as waterboarding and was used in the interrogation of terror suspects at Guantanamo Bay.
Judge Timothy Campbell told Liskany: 'The only thing you didn't do is wrap their faces in cheese cloth, but basically they were water boarded. 'You have damaged your children for life.'
The horrific abuse at the Liskany home in rural Xenia, Ohio, came to light last year after his teenage son was reported missing in a snow storm.
He had walked more than 20 miles to a relative's house rather than return to his home.
The relative called police and the children told social workers about what had been happening to them.
Sheriff Eric Spicer said the abuse of the children, aged from eight to 15, was the worst he had ever seen.
'This was a prolonged period of abuse that was systematic,' he said.
Liskany's wife Wendy begged the judge not to jail her husband. She did not face any charges but judge Campbell said she knew what was going on.
'I don't feel incarcerating him is going to help him,' she said.
'He does not pose a threat to society, he did pose a threat to my children at one point in time.'
I heared there there'll be some room available in Guantanamo soon. Can we drop that fucker in there?
wautd wrote:She did not face any charges but judge Campbell said she knew what was going on.
Really? No charges? Why is that, because she would be a potential victim of the person, or just because she said she didn't have anything to do with it?
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Really? No charges? Why is that, because she would be a potential victim of the person, or just because she said she didn't have anything to do with it?
Probably because she is a battered woman and lived in fear of the same punishment as her kids got, you can see the classic signs with her begging for him not to be jailed.
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Yeah, I suspected as much. Good that the brutal douche got sent to prison, but 16 years? She better use them to get lost somewhere.
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Stas Bush wrote:Yeah, I suspected as much. Good that the brutal douche got sent to prison, but 16 years? She better use them to get lost somewhere.
Perhaps that is the maximum he could get by law? For the mother, well hopefully she gets the witness protection deal. Relocated, new identity and all that.
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There is no way that the biological male genetic donor (this man is not a father or parent by any stretch of the word) in this case, is going to make it out of the general prison population intact.
The mother may not need to relocate by the time his term is up.
I sincerly hope those poor children can get past this eventually, and have something resembling normal lives.
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There is no way that the biological male genetic donor (this man is not a father or parent by any stretch of the word) in this case, is going to make it out of the general prison population intact.
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This guy was using enhanced child parenting techniques. I don't see the problem.
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Pulp Hero wrote:This guy was using enhanced child parenting techniques. I don't see the problem.
If I wasn't sure you were being sarcastic, I'd call you a first rate asshole not worthy of the classification of human.
The previous administration referred to what they did at Guantanamo 'Enhanced' interrogation techniques. The sarcasm in Pulp Hero's statement should be nakedly obvious.
I remember reading or hearing that abused children often repeat their parents' behavior, i.e., the children themselves will grow up to become child abusers.
I hope to God this scumbag's victims would not grow up to become victimizers and end up waterboarding their own children.
Those gun nuts do not understand the meaning of "overkill," and will simply use weapon after weapon of mass destruction (WMD) until the monster is dead, or until they run out of weapons.
They have more WMD than there are monsters for us to fight. (More insanity here.)
Pulp Hero wrote:This guy was using enhanced child parenting techniques. I don't see the problem.
If I wasn't sure you were being sarcastic, I'd call you a first rate asshole not worthy of the classification of human.
Was your post really necessary? We all get that Pulp Hero was being sarcastic... is it that important that you confirm for us all how ANGRY (ROAR!!!) child abuse makes you, and how it causes your sense of rationality to go out the window?
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GrandMasterTerwynn wrote:The previous administration referred to what they did at Guantanamo 'Enhanced' interrogation techniques. The sarcasm in Pulp Hero's statement should be nakedly obvious.
Reread Solauren's post: he knew Pulp Hero was being sarcastic. As Sanchez said, the post was probably unnecessary, but he realized the sarcasm.
In any case, is anyone else concerned that no major American publication seems to have picked up on this story? In fact, the ONLY American source I can find is the Dayton Daily News, which is from December. Though it does give some information the OP article does not.
GrandMasterTerwynn wrote:The previous administration referred to what they did at Guantanamo 'Enhanced' interrogation techniques. The sarcasm in Pulp Hero's statement should be nakedly obvious.
Reread Solauren's post: he knew Pulp Hero was being sarcastic. As Sanchez said, the post was probably unnecessary, but he realized the sarcasm.
In any case, is anyone else concerned that no major American publication seems to have picked up on this story? In fact, the ONLY American source I can find is the Dayton Daily News, which is from December. Though it does give some information the OP article does not.
From a jaded perspective, it's not really news. The only thing that makes this story slightly more newsworthy is the water boarding aspect. Otherwise, it's just an asshole abusing his kids - unfortunately it happens every day to thousands of kids, and unless you're a pretty, rich white girl no one really cares.
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sadistic son of a bitch wrote:On his own behalf, Liskany told Campbell, “I just want the opportunity to try and be a father. That’s what I was trying to do, be a loving father.”
Sidewinder wrote:I remember reading or hearing that abused children often repeat their parents' behavior, i.e., the children themselves will grow up to become child abusers.
I hope to God this scumbag's victims would not grow up to become victimizers and end up waterboarding their own children.
I'd say that would depend on whether they actually get any counselling for this. Does the US offer free counselling for abuse victims?
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Stas Bush wrote:
Really? No charges? Why is that, because she would be a potential victim of the person, or just because she said she didn't have anything to do with it?
Probably because she is a battered woman and lived in fear of the same punishment as her kids got, you can see the classic signs with her begging for him not to be jailed.
Normally that isn’t a defence under the laws of well, just about every state in the US is the same on the matter. If you’re children are being abused you MUST take action to stop it or report it. Being a victim yourself is not a defence because that’s obviously going to be a common situation, but as long as you can leave the building, you can damn well do something about it. I guess someone must have just felt this was too brutal a case and gave her some slack by not filing charges, but given that shes defending her husband in court she's not rating high for sympathy.
Don’t even think about witness protection, no fucking way is a women going to get that because her children were abused until one of them reported it! State and local resources for witness protection are minimal anyway, and no doubt even smaller now that everyones under a tight budget. They can't even protect people who witnessed gang shootings outside there own homes 95% of the time.
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Sea Skimmer wrote:
Normally that isn’t a defence under the laws of well, just about every state in the US is the same on the matter. If you’re children are being abused you MUST take action to stop it or report it. Being a victim yourself is not a defence because that’s obviously going to be a common situation, but as long as you can leave the building, you can damn well do something about it. I guess someone must have just felt this was too brutal a case and gave her some slack by not filing charges, but given that shes defending her husband in court she's not rating high for sympathy.
Don’t even think about witness protection, no fucking way is a women going to get that because her children were abused until one of them reported it! State and local resources for witness protection are minimal anyway, and no doubt even smaller now that everyones under a tight budget. They can't even protect people who witnessed gang shootings outside there own homes 95% of the time.
Well I'm certainly no expert on US law, so thank you for the clarification.
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Sidewinder wrote:I remember reading or hearing that abused children often repeat their parents' behavior, i.e., the children themselves will grow up to become child abusers.
I hope to God this scumbag's victims would not grow up to become victimizers and end up waterboarding their own children.
I'd say that would depend on whether they actually get any counselling for this. Does the US offer free counselling for abuse victims?
The state and federal governments would if the government leaders were willing to give the responsible agencies enough money to hire these psychological/psychiatric counselors. Unfortunately, they don't, and there's always something else competing with Child Protective Services for a piece of the budget, e.g., police, prisons (it's political suicide to be seen as "soft on crime"), schools, infrastructure repairs and maintenance (a US citizen might be blissfully ignorant of an abused child who needs counseling, but he will not be ignorant of the fucking pothole that caused a flat tire when his car drove over it), etc.
Those gun nuts do not understand the meaning of "overkill," and will simply use weapon after weapon of mass destruction (WMD) until the monster is dead, or until they run out of weapons.
They have more WMD than there are monsters for us to fight. (More insanity here.)
