Dear God...they've actually done it, it's a damned miracle.

Captain Cyran · Post by **Captain Cyran** » 2002-12-16 07:52pm

That's right people, The feddies have actually HELD OFF AN INVASION FORCE! One would think it impossible considering their past (A small amount of Farengi taking over the D with minimal effort) But I saw that and was somewhat impressed, BOTH sides were taking cover...relatively...and did anyone notice the sounds made by the phasers...kinda like Blasters?

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-12-16 08:00pm

That wasn't much of an invasion. It was one ship. And it wasn't even trying to take and hold any territory.

KrauserKrauser · Post by **KrauserKrauser** » 2002-12-16 08:06pm

I think he was talking about the boarding action on the E-E

Captain Cyran · Post by **Captain Cyran** » 2002-12-18 09:13pm

Yeah I was...my mind was just on a fritz and I couldn't think of the word.

Singular Quartet · Post by **Singular Quartet** » 2002-12-18 09:55pm

Captain_Cyran wrote:Yeah I was...my mind was just on a fritz and I couldn't think of the word.

Tehre was only, like, 9 of them. Picard and Data did more damage when they were onboard both times. (says something about these "Great" Reman soldiers.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-12-18 10:08pm

The E-E repelled 9 boarders? Break out the champagne!

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2002-12-18 10:10pm

Darth Wong wrote:The E-E repelled 9 boarders?

Hey, they did it using engineers and scientist protected only by standard fed issue pajamas.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-12-19 01:48am

Wicked Pilot wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:The E-E repelled 9 boarders?
Hey, they did it using engineers and scientist protected only by standard fed issue pajamas.

Worf and Riker were the only ones with confirmed kills in the entire group. I think two or three other Feddies died, but the boarders were all presumably repelled. I say presumably because Worf should have been able to help Riker, unless he was still fighting the other boarders.

KrauserKrauser · Post by **KrauserKrauser** » 2002-12-19 03:11am

Nah worf got caught building that whole endless pit of doom so that the crappy plot could continue.

Joe Momma · Post by **Joe Momma** » 2002-12-19 04:52am

At first I wondered the same thing most people did: why didn't the Feds turn up the lights and blind these idiot Remans?

Then I wondered, "Why don't the Remans have goggles to keep from getting blinded by normal light in the first fucking place?" Did they only land at night during the Dominion War then run around with one hand shading their eyes after daybreak?

And what a fucking lame "boarding action" scene that was. Two sets of dipshits huddled up at curves in the hall shooting at each other. I've seen more interesting fights in a Dixie Chicks video.

Hmm. Why didn't they hire a bunch of off-duty security/infantry guys from a local military base as extras? Just tell 'em, "We'll buy you lunch and let you dress up in cool uniforms while you kick the shit out of each other," and film the hilarity that ensues.

Or goddammit, how about dumping some of that 30-40 minutes of shit-useless subplots like B4 and spending the time and money on a technical advisor and some close-quarters-combat scenes that would have made that boarding action rock?

Maybe they could have talked R. Lee Ermey into doing it. He's done technical advisory work before (including Full Metal Jacket, in which he also played his most famous role) and he loves that techie gear, if his enthusiasm in the Land Warrior get-up was any indication; "Look out, Arnold: here comes the Ermey-nator!"

It would have been worth the price of admission just to see Ermey in the Starfleet uniform screaming, "What's the matter, red shirts? Ya wanna live forever?" "Listen up, you unorganized grabastic nocturnal maggots! You'd better unfuck yourself from my spaceship IMMEDIATELY or you will definitely be in a world of hurt!" "You wanted to reach 2 meters, Shinzon? Sorry, they don't stack shit that high!"

-- Joe Momma

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2002-12-19 06:47am

Joe Momma wrote:At first I wondered the same thing most people did: why didn't the Feds turn up the lights and blind these idiot Remans?

Then I wondered, "Why don't the Remans have goggles to keep from getting blinded by normal light in the first fucking place?" Did they only land at night during the Dominion War then run around with one hand shading their eyes after daybreak?

And what a fucking lame "boarding action" scene that was. Two sets of dipshits huddled up at curves in the hall shooting at each other. I've seen more interesting fights in a Dixie Chicks video.

Hmm. Why didn't they hire a bunch of off-duty security/infantry guys from a local military base as extras? Just tell 'em, "We'll buy you lunch and let you dress up in cool uniforms while you kick the shit out of each other," and film the hilarity that ensues.

Or goddammit, how about dumping some of that 30-40 minutes of shit-useless subplots like B4 and spending the time and money on a technical advisor and some close-quarters-combat scenes that would have made that boarding action rock?

Maybe they could have talked R. Lee Ermey into doing it. He's done technical advisory work before (including Full Metal Jacket, in which he also played his most famous role) and he loves that techie gear, if his enthusiasm in the Land Warrior get-up was any indication; "Look out, Arnold: here comes the Ermey-nator!"

It would have been worth the price of admission just to see Ermey in the Starfleet uniform screaming, "What's the matter, red shirts? Ya wanna live forever?" "Listen up, you unorganized grabastic nocturnal maggots! You'd better unfuck yourself from my spaceship IMMEDIATELY or you will definitely be in a world of hurt!" "You wanted to reach 2 meters, Shinzon? Sorry, they don't stack shit that high!"

-- Joe Momma

dammit now that's what the feddies need! Make every feddie on a starship train in the R Lee Ermey combat holodeck program! fucking daily! no more of these stupid detective of wild west holodeck adventures! you want to blow off steam? see if you can kill Sgt. Ermey you little dipshit

CNS Sarajevo · Post by **CNS Sarajevo** » 2002-12-19 01:10pm

JOE MOMMA LAYS THE SMACK DOWN!!!!!!

CNS Sarajevo · Post by **CNS Sarajevo** » 2002-12-19 01:12pm

WTF were they thinking, they could board the ship and seize the captain with 9 guys, fighting their way up from the lowest deck?

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2002-12-19 01:34pm

Joe Momma wrote:It would have been worth the price of admission just to see Ermey in the Starfleet uniform screaming, "What's the matter, red shirts? Ya wanna live forever?" "Listen up, you unorganized grabastic nocturnal maggots! You'd better unfuck yourself from my spaceship IMMEDIATELY or you will definitely be in a world of hurt!" "You wanted to reach 2 meters, Shinzon? Sorry, they don't stack shit that high!"

Now that was funny. Welcome to the board.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-12-19 02:46pm

Joe Momma wrote:Hmm. Why didn't they hire a bunch of off-duty security/infantry guys from a local military base as extras? Just tell 'em, "We'll buy you lunch and let you dress up in cool uniforms while you kick the shit out of each other," and film the hilarity that ensues.

They did that in Bravheart. And the reason they didn't do it for Nemesis is because it is the smart thing to do. Therefore, they didn't do it.

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » 2002-12-19 04:59pm

CNS Sarajevo wrote:WTF were they thinking, they could board the ship and seize the captain with 9 guys, fighting their way up from the lowest deck?

That was the only place the shields failed.

Silver · Post by **Silver** » 2002-12-22 03:15am

Yes, but haven't transporters been used in situations where they only punch a hole in the shields and then grab what it is they're looking for? IIRC that's all the transport beam needs.

FaxModem1 · Post by **FaxModem1** » 2002-12-22 03:28am

Whoever said that was the lowest deck?

Magashi · Post by **Magashi** » 2002-12-29 04:31pm

FaxModem1 wrote:Whoever said that was the lowest deck?

They didn't say it /per se/, but deck 29 was the deck they beamed onto, and last I checked, that is pretty far from the command bridge, or at least what was left of it.

DocMoriartty · Post by **DocMoriartty** » 2002-12-29 06:33pm

29 cannot be the bottom deck of the ship.

Otherwise where did the bottomless pit the Reman got thrown into lead to?

Guardsman Bass · Post by **Guardsman Bass** » 2002-12-29 07:20pm

WTF, in STFC Picard told Lily that there were only 24 decks in the E-E, apparently the ship grows.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-12-29 09:33pm

It's magic!

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2002-12-29 10:17pm

I just love how Picard dispatches Riker and Worf off the bridge while in combat, rather then just having a damn security team deal with it.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2002-12-29 10:18pm

DocMoriartty wrote:29 cannot be the bottom deck of the ship.

Otherwise where did the bottomless pit the Reman got thrown into lead to?

My theory is it has differing gravity that pulled up at an angle into the saucer section.

DocMoriartty · Post by **DocMoriartty** » 2002-12-30 09:20am

I do not feel like doing the math. Could the writers have screwed up and those 29 decks are just in the saucer section?

Then that bottomless pit could be a shalft running down the neck into the engineering section.

Remember in ST5 the Enterprise A has 100 decks.