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Two grandparents in Lake County, Fla., were arrested for allegedly offering a hit man $100 to kill their three grandchildren, daughter-in-law and the family's pet dog, according to Local 6 News.

Lake County deputies said Robert Jackson, 60, and his wife, Versie, 59, traveled to a Best Western hotel Tuesday to meet a hit man -- who was an undercover law enforcement officer.

"(The couple) met with the so-called hit man, where they paid the hit man $100 in cash as a down payment for the murder of the wife and her three children," Lake County Sheriff's Office spokeswoman Christie Mysinger said.

"According to an arrest affidavit, Versie Jackson made contact with the undercover agent while her husband stayed in the car because he was reportedly too afraid the meet the person who would kill his grandchildren and daughter-in-law," Local 6 reporter Louis Bolden said.

The couple was taken into custody after the money was exchanged.

After an investigation, authorities said the couple's son, Jason Jackson, 31, concocted the alleged murder-for-hire plan from jail and asked his parents to seal the deal, Bolden said.

The 31-year-old is awaiting trial in a sexual molestation case, and his wife and children were scheduled to testify against him.

Investigators said the rest of the money was to be paid to the hit man after the family members were killed Tuesday night.

The daughter-in-law, Karen Jackson, was shocked to hear about the plan to kill her, her children and pet dog, according to Local 6 News.

"I never saw this coming," Jackson said. "I loved (him) with all my heart. (He) was good to me and good to the kids. (He) was a nice guy, everybody's friend. (He was) like a Ted Bundy charmer. He has to be a psychopath."

Jackson said after her husband's arrest last year, her in-laws stopped speaking with her.

She said she plans to testify against her husband and both in-laws.

Both grandparents remain in the Lake County Jail without bond.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.

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Hmm, 'fraid I have to be proddy and say that although I agree wth your sentiments I do find your phrasing 'white trash' more than a little racist.

Maybe it would just be better for us all if people like that were expelled from the human race, then we can all say what we like about them!
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So they not only tried to kill their daughter-in-law, grandchildren, and their fucking DOG (what the fuck does the animal have to do with any of this?), but they were doing it to cover up for their son the (child?) molestor? Fuck them. BTW, that grandma is a hag if I ever saw one.
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Ok, I can understand the sick logic for wanting to kill the daughter in law and the grandkids, but why the dog?

And check the link, doesn't Versie look like she would fit right into Dawn of the Dead?
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100 measly bucks for a hit? I don't think any criminal would work THAT cheap.
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Oh, holy shit that woman's ugly.

I really do have to wonder what was going through the husband's mind when he thought of the "If I kill my family, they can't testify against me and I'll get off scott-free!" plan. Or throught the minds of the grandparents when they went through with this plan. How much convincing did it take to get them to do that? Those kids are their grandchildren, for fuck's sake! :evil:

Well, at least their son won't be lonely anymore, what with them joining him.
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Azazal wrote:Ok, I can understand the sick logic for wanting to kill the daughter in law and the grandkids, but why the dog?
Are you kidding? Anyone who plans to murder another human, do you think they have very much regard for a dog? These slime probably figure, why bother to leave the dog alive.
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Julhelm wrote:100 measly bucks for a hit? I don't think any criminal would work THAT cheap.
reread -- it was a down payment, perhaps a fee just for starting the negotiations. And of course it wasn't a real hit man, was it?
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Who the fuck puts a hit on their own fucking grandkids and why? This is sickening.
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Hmm, 'fraid I have to be proddy and say that although I agree wth your sentiments I do find your phrasing 'white trash' more than a little racist.
:wtf:

Racism has precisely dick to do with this, and I'll appreciate it if you don't try to strawman it as such. :roll:
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drachefly wrote:reread -- it was a down payment, perhaps a fee just for starting the negotiations. And of course it wasn't a real hit man, was it?
Which would mean the real fee was probably around 500-1000 bucks. Still suspiciously cheap.
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Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:Who the fuck puts a hit on their own fucking grandkids and why? This is sickening.
The story says mom did this at the behest of her wonderful son. Right there you have a twisted pair. So I don't consider it too far of a stretch that any such person who would agree to arrange the murder of a daughter-in-law to go all the way and wipe out the kids and dog, to boot.
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Julhelm wrote:
drachefly wrote:reread -- it was a down payment, perhaps a fee just for starting the negotiations. And of course it wasn't a real hit man, was it?
Which would mean the real fee was probably around 500-1000 bucks. Still suspiciously cheap.
"Suspiciously"? Do you assume there's more to the story than what's presented?
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Talanth wrote: Hmm, 'fraid I have to be proddy and say that although I agree wth your sentiments I do find your phrasing 'white trash' more than a little racist.
Whilst I agree that a similar epithet aimed at any other race group would be held as racist, they are certainly trash, and also vaguely white. (the harpy did look a bit jaundiced).
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Einhander Sn0m4n wrote: Racism has precisely dick to do with this, and I'll appreciate it if you don't try to strawman it as such. :roll:
I'm sorry if you thought I was strawmanning him. Like I said, I agree with the sentiments expressed. I, however, happen to be white, and have no wish to be ascociated with people like this in any way.

Like Vendetta said, If he had said "fucking black trash" he would have been flamed to hell for it.
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Talanth wrote:
Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:Racism has precisely dick to do with this, and I'll appreciate it if you don't try to strawman it as such. :roll:
I'm sorry if you thought I was strawmanning him. Like I said, I agree with the sentiments expressed. I, however, happen to be white, and have no wish to be ascociated with people like this in any way.

Like Vendetta said, If he had said "fucking black trash" he would have been flamed to hell for it.
Whites who complain about any hint of "anti-white" prejudice are whiners. Do you honestly think there's no difference between the powerful picking on the weak, and the weak picking on the powerful? Whites hold most of the money and power in the country, so the standard is different. Deal with it.
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FSTargetDrone wrote:
Azazal wrote:Ok, I can understand the sick logic for wanting to kill the daughter in law and the grandkids, but why the dog?
Are you kidding? Anyone who plans to murder another human, do you think they have very much regard for a dog? These slime probably figure, why bother to leave the dog alive.
I can just picture that ugly hag cackling and saying "I'll get you, and your little dog too!"
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Erik von Nein wrote:
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drachefly wrote:reread -- it was a down payment, perhaps a fee just for starting the negotiations. And of course it wasn't a real hit man, was it?
Which would mean the real fee was probably around 500-1000 bucks. Still suspiciously cheap.
"Suspiciously"? Do you assume there's more to the story than what's presented?
No, its just saying these people were dumb and bought the officer's cover as a real hitman. Hits, on average run around 2,000- 5,000 bucks on average per head. 500 bucks is way to good of a price to be true.
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Talanth wrote:
Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:Racism has precisely dick to do with this, and I'll appreciate it if you don't try to strawman it as such. :roll:
I'm sorry if you thought I was strawmanning him. Like I said, I agree with the sentiments expressed. I, however, happen to be white, and have no wish to be ascociated with people like this in any way.

Like Vendetta said, If he had said "fucking black trash" he would have been flamed to hell for it.
Whites who complain about any hint of "anti-white" prejudice are whiners. Do you honestly think there's no difference between the powerful picking on the weak, and the weak picking on the powerful? Whites hold most of the money and power in the country, so the standard is different. Deal with it.
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Darth Wong wrote: Whites who complain about any hint of "anti-white" prejudice are whiners. Do you honestly think there's no difference between the powerful picking on the weak, and the weak picking on the powerful? Whites hold most of the money and power in the country, so the standard is different. Deal with it.
So am I to understand that you would have no problem with a white person in China making a similar racial slur? (I don't think it particularly matters if, as I assume, Joe is not in a minority as I am refering to your point, not what he has written). This situation is not perfectly analogous, as I don't know how much power a white person would have in China, but if we assume that the balance of power would be reversed, then is it not the same? Or perhaps you would not take issue.

I do agree that there is a difference as to how the situation should be considered due to the reasons you have given, but I agree with Talanth that it is still racist, and perfectly acceptable to be held to a small complaint.
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It's really odd that there are several white people on this board.. but you two are the only ones to have trouble with the phrase "White Trash".

Why is that? Did it hit a little too close to home? Because where I grew up, there was a big gap between the 'good people' and the 'white trash'. The white trash were the drunken men and women using their welfare checks to buy cigarettes and alcohol, sending their kids to school so they'd be fed at least one good meal, and popping out a kid every year or two just to have more welfare money to spend. Their house would be unpainted, falling apart, their yard never mowed and growing wild, and they were all the worse parts of the RedNeck jokes rolled into one pathetic package.

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Old Peculier wrote:So am I to understand that you would have no problem with a white person in China making a similar racial slur? (I don't think it particularly matters if, as I assume, Joe is not in a minority as I am refering to your point, not what he has written). This situation is not perfectly analogous, as I don't know how much power a white person would have in China, but if we assume that the balance of power would be reversed, then is it not the same? Or perhaps you would not take issue.
People over here say bad things about the Chinese in China all the fucking time already. Hell, I say bad things about the Chinese in China; they're socially backward racists. Why the hell would I have a problem with somebody saying it when he's in China?
I do agree that there is a difference as to how the situation should be considered due to the reasons you have given, but I agree with Talanth that it is still racist, and perfectly acceptable to be held to a small complaint.
If we let Shep get away with his endless baiting of Arabs (who, by the way, are generally treated as a monolithic social, religious, and ethnic group in America as a matter of course, even to the point that Arabs in one country are blamed for the actions of Arabs in another country, since all Arabs are apparently the same), don't think anyone here's going to jump up out of his seat to join you in your protest over the term "white trash".
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Darth Wong wrote:People over here say bad things about the Chinese in China all the fucking time already. Hell, I say bad things about the Chinese in China; they're socially backward racists. Why the hell would I have a problem with somebody saying it when he's in China?
I said racial slurs not 'bad things'. The difference being that one is a healthy criticism of the general population of a country, the other a derogatory term regarding a perceived racial group.
Darth Wong wrote:I do agree that there is a difference as to how the situation should be considered due to the reasons you have given, but I agree with Talanth that it is still racist, and perfectly acceptable to be held to a small complaint.
I didn't protest the term, but I did contest your accusation of Talanth being a 'whiner'.
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Old Peculier wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:People over here say bad things about the Chinese in China all the fucking time already. Hell, I say bad things about the Chinese in China; they're socially backward racists. Why the hell would I have a problem with somebody saying it when he's in China?
I said racial slurs not 'bad things'. The difference being that one is a healthy criticism of the general population of a country, the other a derogatory term regarding a perceived racial group.
"White trash" is a specific subset of a racial group; it is not a racial group.
I didn't protest the term, but I did contest your accusation of Talanth being a 'whiner'.
Sorry, but white people who whine about white persecution are whiners. Never has there been a group in all of human history with less right to complain about persecution.
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Just to add more fuel to the fire: I've always seen the term "white trash" as racist, towards non-whites. To me, it's implying that there's something surprising about these people being white, whereas you'd just expect this sort of behaviour from other ethnicities.

At least, I see it that way because it seems related to the more explicitely racist term "wit kaffir" ("white nigger") that was used a lot in my country.

That said, it is a generally used term. When people use it, they're not necessarily being racist, they're just not thinking about the implications of what they're saying.
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Pulp Hero wrote:No, its just saying these people were dumb and bought the officer's cover as a real hitman. Hits, on average run around 2,000- 5,000 bucks on average per head. 500 bucks is way to good of a price to be true.
And as I said, it could have been just money to star negotiations. $100 up front seems like a reasonable price just to get in the door and start talking. It indicates you're serious.

And then of course there is the real possibility that the FBI people just set a price these clowns could afford, and they fell for it.
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