Three Years Ago Today...

Elfdart · Post by **Elfdart** » 2006-03-16 08:21pm

... Rachel Corrie was killed.

While she died three years ago today, the campaign to diabolize her and gloat over her corpse continues. Corrie is a fairly easy target because it's easy to smear a dead person who can't respond. Or can she? Alan Rickman and Katherine Viner created a one-act play out of Corrie's own words from her journals and letters.

Although the play was a huge hit in London, any attempt to depict Palestinians as human beings is Verboten in New York, just as any attempt to humanize blacks in Mississippi was a few decades ago. So the play, which had been scheduled for the New York Theatre Workshop, was postponed indefinitely -i.e. cancelled after pressure from fan-whores for Israel.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0228-03.htm

The campaign against Rachel Corrie and those who produced the play is all too similar to the smear campaign by neo-Nazis against Anne Frank and those who produced the play based on her diary.

Quadlok · Post by **Quadlok** » 2006-03-16 08:53pm

We've got a shrine to her in one of the lounges on campus, seeing as how Evergreen is her alma mater. From the discussions I've had, the general sentiment seems to be that while she was fighting a noble cause, she probably should have had the sense not to stand right in front of a large, armored bulldozer. Its worth noting that there was a big ant-Caterpillar campaign last year, too.

SecondToDie · Post by **SecondToDie** » 2006-03-16 08:56pm

It's not surprising that the neocons are smearing Rachel Corrie. They also smeared Marla Ruzicka when she was killed.

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2006-03-16 09:04pm

Her death proved that the right wing bloggers and usual suspects from FR and Ldot are subhuman pieces of shit who are wasting oxygen. Markos Zúniga (of Daily Kos) says "Screw them" when speaking of merceneries looking to make a quick buck from the war, and he is still taking shit for it.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2006-03-16 09:53pm

I'm suddenly hungry for pancakes.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2006-03-16 10:02pm

Pancakes! Yum!

What a nice upstanding induhvidual.

Elfdart · Post by **Elfdart** » 2006-03-16 10:02pm

Joe wrote:I'm suddenly hungry for pancakes.

No sooner did Hamel mention those who "are subhuman pieces of shit who are wasting oxygen", then this trolling cunt arrives on cue like Lennie & Squiggy. What a lowlife!

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2006-03-16 10:04pm

Elfdart wrote:then this trolling cunt

Pot Calling Kettle Black.

Elfdart · Post by **Elfdart** » 2006-03-16 10:05pm

MKSheppard wrote:What a nice upstanding induhvidual.

Unlike a certain convicted felon I could name who can't maintain an erection without looking at pictures of bombs.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2006-03-16 10:06pm

Elfdart wrote:Unlike a certain convicted felon I could name who can't maintain an erection without looking at pictures of bombs.

Down to snide insults already?

Elfdart · Post by **Elfdart** » 2006-03-16 10:13pm

It's a relevant point. What crime did Rachel Corrie commit? None whatsoever. Yet in your morally retarded world (the same world inhabited by the trolling cunt), it's cute and funny that she was murdered.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2006-03-16 10:14pm

As amusing as watching folks react just as was being talked about is, IvP is still moratoriumed, and we do generally expect you peons to have more than just flames in posts. Keep it in line.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2006-03-16 10:15pm

Elfdart wrote:It's a relevant point. What crime did Rachel Corrie commit? None whatsoever. Yet in your morally retarded world (the same world inhabited by the trolling cunt), it's cute and funny that she was murdered.

You can always get him back on the next anniversary of Reagan's death

Elfdart · Post by **Elfdart** » 2006-03-16 10:19pm

Darth Wong wrote:You can always get him back on the next anniversary of Reagan's death

The problem is:

1) I don't gloat over the deaths of others.

and

2) When Von Reagan died, how could they tell?

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2006-03-16 10:21pm

Elfdart wrote:Yet in your morally retarded world (the same world inhabited by the trolling cunt), it's cute and funny that she was murdered.

She was stupid enough to get infront of a Caterpillar D7 bulldozer which had been extensively uparmored due to her "Palestinian" friends, severely restricting the driver's already restricted vision; Am I supposed to feel sympathy for someone that stupid? It's right up there with Miss Deaf Texas being hit by a train.

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2006-03-16 10:25pm

Corrie crushed on purpose

The closest eye witness account on the murder of Rachel Corrie

by Tom Dale

March 17, 2003

Many of you will of heard varying accounts of the death of Rachel Corrie,
maybe others will have heard nothing of it. Regardless, I was 10 metres
away when it happened 2 days ago, and this is the way it went.

We'd been monitoring and occasionally obstructing the 2 bulldozers for about
2 hours when 1 of them turned toward a house we knew to be threatened with
demolition. Rachel knelt down in its way. She was 10-20 metres in front of
the bulldozer, clearly visible, the only object for many metres, directly in
it's view. They were in Radio contact with a tank that had a profile view
of the situation. There is no way she could not have been seen by them in
their elevated cabin. They knew where she was, there is no doubt.

The bulldozer drove toward Rachel slowly, gathering earth in its scoop as it
went. She knelt there, she did not move. The bulldozer reached her and she
began to stand up, climbing onto the mound of earth. She appeared to be
looking into the cockpit. The bulldozer continued to push Rachel, so she
slipped down the mound of earth, turning as she went. Her faced showed she
was panicking and it was clear she was in danger of being overwhelmed. All
the activists were screaming at the bulldozer to stop and gesturing to the
crew about Rachel's presence. We were in clear view as Rachel had been,
they continued. They pushed Rachel, first beneath the scoop, then beneath
the blade, then continued till her body was beneath the cockpit. They
waited over her for a few seconds, before reversing. They reversed with the
blade pressed down, so it scraped over her body a second time. Every second
I believed they would stop but they never did.

I ran for an ambulance, she was gasping and her face was covered in blood
from a gash cutting her face from lip to cheek. She was showing signs of
brain hemorrhaging. She died in the ambulance a few minutes later of
massive internal injuries. She was a brilliant, bright and amazing person,
immensely brave and committed. She is gone and I cannot believe it.

The group here in Rafah has decided that we will stay here and continue to
oppose human rights abuses as best we can. I want to add that more than 10
palestinians have died in the Gaza strip since Rachel.

If you're wandering about Rachel: her writings, photos of her and statements
on her death are available on the below website. More photos: go to yahoo
news section, search for photos by 'rachel'.

The murderer could have called in police to remove her, but no suh.

Elfdart · Post by **Elfdart** » 2006-03-16 10:26pm

Awwww, the poor wittle Israeli ethnic cleanser was too scared of a blonde in an orange raincoat to watch where he was driving. Yeah, that excuses running her over. But as vile as he was in violating the Geneva Conventions and killing a civilian while doing so, you and the trolling cunt are in a class of shitstains all your own.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2006-03-16 10:27pm

Elfdart wrote:It's a relevant point. What crime did Rachel Corrie commit? None whatsoever. Yet in your morally retarded world (the same world inhabited by the trolling cunt), it's cute and funny that she was murdered.

It’s not fucking murder if you intentionally put yourself in front a moving vehicle and get hit by it. People commit suicide in this way all the time. Regardless of why or why she was protesting, she got herself killed. If someone snuck onto a construction site and got run over, no one would be calling it murder, we’d all be calling the person stupid.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2006-03-16 10:34pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:
Elfdart wrote:It's a relevant point. What crime did Rachel Corrie commit? None whatsoever. Yet in your morally retarded world (the same world inhabited by the trolling cunt), it's cute and funny that she was murdered.
It’s not fucking murder if you intentionally put yourself in front a moving vehicle and get hit by it. People commit suicide in this way all the time. Regardless of why or why she was protesting, she got herself killed. If someone snuck onto a construction site and got run over, no one would be calling it murder, we’d all be calling the person stupid.

If someone steps into the road in front of your car, and it can be established that you did not take whatever actions were possible to avoid a collision, ie- you just kept driving and didn't care whether you hit her, you would definitely be held liable and charged with criminal negligence causing death: not the same thing as murder but a very serious charge nonetheless. You might even be charged with vehicular homicide.

Elfdart · Post by **Elfdart** » 2006-03-16 10:38pm

If someone was using a bulldozer to commit a crime (for example, smashing into a jewelry store) and ran over a person who could not or would not get out of the way, that driver is a murderer. If you hit someone with your getaway car, pistolwhip the cashier too hard or he splits his head on the concrete floor, give an old biddie a heart attack when you point the shotgun in her face or in any other way cause the death of a person when you are committing a crime, you are a murderer.

Any attempts to smear and insult the victim ("Hey, the old man should have got out of the way when I made my getaway!") are the work of scumbags.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2006-03-16 10:42pm

Darth Wong wrote: If someone steps into the road in front of your car, and it can be established that you did not take whatever actions were possible to avoid a collision, ie- you just kept driving and didn't care whether you hit her, you would definitely be held liable and charged with criminal negligence causing death: not the same thing as murder but a very serious charge nonetheless. You might even be charged with vehicular homicide.

See the problem is that different ISM members give different stories. The one on wilkpedia for example claims she actually spoke before dieing, god only knows what the creadbility of that one is but its got as much backing it as this Article. Call me skeptical that a 70 ton bulldozer ran over, sat on, and then backed off a person who was not totally destroyed as a being. The reports that she was simply buried in the pile of earth the thing was pushing are a bit more credible in view of the unviersal claim that she died after being pulled out of the debires. I've seen a number of pictures of people run over by tanks in Iraq, and in a training accident, and they just get flattened in a litteral way.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2006-03-16 10:47pm

Elfdart wrote:If someone was using a bulldozer to commit a crime (for example, smashing into a jewelry store) and ran over a person who could not or would not get out of the way, that driver is a murderer.

No houses where demolished the day she was killed, so the crime was what exactly?

Any attempts to smear and insult the victim ("Hey, the old man should have got out of the way when I made my getaway!") are the work of scumbags.

Well umm, your a shit head, yeah that I'll do.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2006-03-16 10:48pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:If someone steps into the road in front of your car, and it can be established that you did not take whatever actions were possible to avoid a collision, ie- you just kept driving and didn't care whether you hit her, you would definitely be held liable and charged with criminal negligence causing death: not the same thing as murder but a very serious charge nonetheless. You might even be charged with vehicular homicide.
See the problem is that different ISM members give different stories. The one on wilkpedia for example claims she actually spoke before dieing, god only knows what the creadbility of that one is but its got as much backing it as this Article. Call me skeptical that a 70 ton bulldozer ran over, sat on, and then backed off a person who was not totally destroyed as a being. The reports that she was simply buried in the pile of earth the thing was pushing are a bit more credible in view of the unviersal claim that she died after being pulled out of the debires. I've seen a number of pictures of people run over by tanks in Iraq, and in a training accident, and they just get flattened in a litteral way.

However, I've seen pictures of a baby who was run over by a (much smaller) bulldozer without so much as a scratch; she was just pushed down into the dirt. They called her the "miracle Baby" at the time but I would tend to think the laws of physics were a more likely culprit for her survival than divine intervention. Not that this necessarily makes the "dramatic last words" claim true, but it is possible depending on how the soil was packed.

In any case, it's probably impossible to tell whether the driver could see her, but the fact that he knew there were protesters in close proximity and wasn't making any special effort to ensure that he wasn't running anyone over is already more than enough evidence to claim callous disregard for human life.

Post by **Surlethe** » 2006-03-16 10:53pm

Elfdart wrote:If someone was using a bulldozer to commit a crime (for example, smashing into a jewelry store) and ran over a person who could not or would not get out of the way, that driver is a murderer.

I'm not seeing why the fact she was murdered makes her any less stupid for walking in front of a bulldozer.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2006-03-16 10:55pm

Darth Wong wrote: However, I've seen pictures of a baby who was run over by a (much smaller) bulldozer without so much as a scratch; she was just pushed down into the dirt. They called her the "miracle Baby" at the time but I would tend to think the laws of physics were a more likely culprit for her survival than divine intervention. Not that this necessarily makes the "dramatic last words" claim true, but it is possible depending on how the soil was packed.

I'm sure it is possible if she was just buried in the dirt, but that's not the same as being run over, sat on, and then back off of all while a giant immovable steel cutting blade (which is below ground level already) scrapes across your soon to be corpse. I just do not see any way that could happen and yet the body came out fairly intact and the victim still alive.