Bush claimed God told him to invade Iraq, Afghanistan: BBC Thu Oct 6, 6:05 PM ET
LONDON (AFP) - US President George W. Bush allegedly said God told him to invade Iraq and Afghanistan, a new BBC documentary will reveal, according to details.
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Bush made the claim when he met Palestinian leader Mahmud Abbas and then foreign minister Nabil Shaath in June 2003, the ministers told the documentary series to be broadcast in Britain later this month.
The US leader also told them he had been ordered by God to create a Palestinian state, the ministers said.
Shaath, now the Palestinian information minister, said: " President Bush said to all of us: 'I'm driven with a mission from God.
'God would tell me, 'George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan'.'
"And I did, and then God would tell me, 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq...' And I did.
"'And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, 'Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East.' And by God I'm gonna do it'," said Shaath.
Abbas, who was also at the meeting in the Egyptian resort of Sharm al-Sheikh, recalled how the president told him: "I have a moral and religious obligation.
"So I will get you a Palestinian state."
A BBC spokesman said the content of the programme had been put to the White House but it had refused to comment on a private conversation.
The three-part series, "Elusive Peace: Israel and the Arabs", charts the attempts to bring peace to the Middle East, from former US president Bill Clinton's peace talks in 1999-2000 to Israel's withdrawal from the Gaza strip.
The programme speaks to presidents and prime ministers, their generals and ministers, about what happened behind closed doors as the peace talks failed and the intifada grew.
The series is due to be screened in Britain on October 10, 17 and 24.
The best part is they had This picture attached to the article on Yahoo news:
General Zod wrote:Would this be grounds to see about getting Bush removed for psychological reasons?
No, if God and Jesus talk to you you're a spiritual person.
If Napoleon talks to you you're a loonie.
"Prodesse Non Nocere." "It's all about popularity really, if your invisible friend that tells you to invade places is called Napoleon, you're a loony, if he's called Jesus then you're the president." "I'd drive more people insane, but I'd have to double back and pick them up first..." "All it takes for bullshit to thrive is for rational men to do nothing." - Kevin Farrell, B.A. Journalism. BOTM - EBC - Horseman - G&C - Vampire
You wanted to invade Iraq right after 9/11, but you were talked down from it and pursuaded to invade Afgahnistan instead cause Bin Ladin was there.
(Come to think of it, where is Bin Laden now? He's Bin Forgotin!)
You invaded Iraq because you wanted to avenge your daddy (even though he wasn't dead).
You have lied about your God. YOUR LAWRD WILL PUNISH YOU, SINNAH!
FREDDY THE FUNDIE SEZ: "You nitwit! The LAWRD will PUNISH you, SINNAH! For Jeezus is ALL our savior, and you must accept him and donate your brain to the LAWRD! You must HATE for JEEZIS!! You must HATE the devilish Jews, the infernal fags, the—" *WHAMMO!* "oooh, lookit the pretty crosses..." *THUD!*
That's quite enough out of you.
/me puts away sturdy stick.
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He thought that was God's voice he was hearing? Damn, that was just the sound of me fucking his mom last night.
ZING!
"If one needed proof that a guitar was more than wood and string, that a song was more than notes and words, and that a man could be more than a name and a few faded pictures, then Robert Johnson’s recordings were all one could ask for."
He's obviously got paranoid schizophrenia. I vote that we re-open the willard pysch center (good for my local economy ) and put him in there untill he gets sain (re: FOR EVER).
Who is Shaath, beyond "a Palestinian negotiator?" In my opinion, all these things are perfectly in keeping with what I know of Bush, but the legitimacy of the statements has to be assessed.
Despite the fact that it was stated that it came from CNN I still had to check.
Yeah, that was just a little bit more of my opinion of Bush going down the drain.
I'd call him a loon, but that's actually a pretty smart move. The people he's dealing with down there are generally very religious. So if he says he's on a mission from God to give Palestine a state and end the wars in the Middle East he's going to be getting more popular support for it.
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Captain Cyran wrote:I'd call him a loon, but that's actually a pretty smart move. The people he's dealing with down there are generally very religious. So if he says he's on a mission from God to give Palestine a state and end the wars in the Middle East he's going to be getting more popular support for it.
When you say "down there," do you mean his voter base (down South) or in the Middle East? Because although he might be widely believed in the Bible Belt (in fact, I have no doubt that he is), I'm rather more skeptical that it'll work in the Middle East.
And whatever he's doing isn't gaining much popular support in the USA. His approval ratings are steadily falling, which gives me hope for the country.
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Captain Cyran wrote:I'd call him a loon, but that's actually a pretty smart move. The people he's dealing with down there are generally very religious. So if he says he's on a mission from God to give Palestine a state and end the wars in the Middle East he's going to be getting more popular support for it.
When you say "down there," do you mean his voter base (down South) or in the Middle East? Because although he might be widely believed in the Bible Belt (in fact, I have no doubt that he is), I'm rather more skeptical that it'll work in the Middle East.
And whatever he's doing isn't gaining much popular support in the USA. His approval ratings are steadily falling, which gives me hope for the country.
I meant the Middle East. You know, where religion is in charge of most of culture, hundreds of wars based around it. Many fights, especially in Palestine, still going on. I'm not saying that the Middle East is going to be going "Ah! He's doing this because God told him to!" right away. But if he actually starts getting things done they're going to be looking at him very favorably because not only is he doing good for them, he's doing it in the name of God. Big time brownie points.
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A Government founded upon justice, and recognizing the equal rights of all men; claiming higher authority for existence, or sanction for its laws, that nature, reason, and the regularly ascertained will of the people; steadily refusing to put its sword and purse in the service of any religious creed or family is a standing offense to most of the Governments of the world, and to some narrow and bigoted people among ourselves.
Surlethe wrote:Bush is a praying man. Is this news to anybody?
Being a praying man is quite different from following orders from the man. Do you know what I'm saying?
Not really. Clarify, please.
I call that hearing voices.
Oh, please; he obviously didn't actually hear voices: he's simplifying the feelings he gets when he prays into verbal expressions.
A Government founded upon justice, and recognizing the equal rights of all men; claiming higher authority for existence, or sanction for its laws, that nature, reason, and the regularly ascertained will of the people; steadily refusing to put its sword and purse in the service of any religious creed or family is a standing offense to most of the Governments of the world, and to some narrow and bigoted people among ourselves.
Surlethe wrote:
Oh, please; he obviously didn't actually hear voices: he's simplifying the feelings he gets when he prays into verbal expressions.
Oh, that's fucking great. Now he a homicidial maniac who gets urges to kill thousands and invade countries while praying, with a religious complex to boot.
MRDOD wrote:Oh, that's fucking great. Now he's a homicidial maniac who gets urges to kill thousands and invade countries while praying, with a religious complex to boot.
Show me where I said he is a homicidal maniac.
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Surlethe wrote:
Show me where I said he is a homicidal maniac.
So you would say people who pray and get urges to invade other countries (thus leading to the direct killing of thousands) are not, in fact, homicidial or maniacs?
MRDOD wrote:So you would say people who pray and get urges to invade other countries (thus leading to the direct killing of thousands) are not, in fact, homicidial or maniacs?
Urge to invade other countries != homicidal mania. It is quite possible to contemplate the invasion of another country without an intense enthusiasm or desire for murder.
A Government founded upon justice, and recognizing the equal rights of all men; claiming higher authority for existence, or sanction for its laws, that nature, reason, and the regularly ascertained will of the people; steadily refusing to put its sword and purse in the service of any religious creed or family is a standing offense to most of the Governments of the world, and to some narrow and bigoted people among ourselves.
Surlethe wrote: Urge to invade other countries != homicidal mania. It is quite possible to contemplate the invasion of another country without an intense enthusiasm or desire for murder.
You'll notice he tends to follow through with this "I should invade ____" urge, too. Perhaps your head has been buried under a rock for a while to not notice that. Or perhaps on top of Republican cock, based on how vigorously you're defending a man who claims divine inspiration for his invasion of Iraqi.
Face it- the man is insane. He's claiming, regardless of how you parse it, that he has divine inspiration for making warfare on a totally irrelevant country (in the context of the War on Terror). Anything else is just splitting hairs here.
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