Necrons vs Tyranids vs Orcs vs Chaos unleashed

[The Grim Squeaker]

The current known Hiveminds are involved, all the necrons are awakened (but dont have instant access to their ships), all the orks (only the ones inside the galaxy) are united under the genius war-boss [Grazthul?] and chaos pushes outwards from the eye with all might, lead by the chaos primarchs (using Abadon as cannon fodder).
For the purpose of the argument all the space marines, inquisitors, imperium psykers and half the guard dissapear along with the high lords of terra the GeoM and remaining primarch leaving the imperium a non factor except as food.

Personally I think:
Da Boyz under a smart leadership have the numbers of the nids and would be very strong and tough.

Chaos would be far too weak outside the warp to really be able to wreak havoc in the same league as b/tillions ob da Boyz.

The Necrons would be nasty in space but if they could complete the great seal then they win.

[Duckie]

Hasn't it been stated numerous times that Da Boyz united would wipe everything away in a wave of green before turning inwards? They supposedly outnumber even the Tyranids and have the numbers to take on the superior per capita forces of Chaos.

There's a hell of a lot of Necrons, though, and they get Space Superiority with their farming ships, so the Orkish tide becomes a meatgrinder until they finally swamp everybody under their vast numbers.

'Nids go RAWR HUNGRY and eat half the galaxy before they're wiped out by the others.

[The Grim Squeaker]

Hasn't it been stated numerous times that Da Boyz united would wipe everything away in a wave of green before turning inwards? They supposedly outnumber even the Tyranids and have the numbers to take on the superior per capita forces of Chaos.
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Really? This is only the orks from inside the galaxy, not all the universal ork population.
Also does the WAAAGH work on orks when they are'nt on the same planet or in a single space hulk?

[18-Till-I-Die]

It has been stated, actually, that the Orks if ever united (like this) would take over the galaxy. Everyone but the Necrons would be properly fucked. Now the only issue from that point on, is the full power Necrons vs the Orkish Empire United...

And that really is a coin toss, both would be unbelievably powerful, either through sheer weight of numbers or technology.

Because of my personal bias, however, i beleive teh Orks would eventually become the victors. It might take thousands of years and countless billions of Orky lives, but they have the sheer numbers to do it.

[Duckie]

The Orks must deal with the Tomb Worlds- they need to destroy quite a few planets to take out the Necrons totally. Take the stuff from the Imperium?

Chaos remains in the Eye after being swamped. Either the Necrons complete the Great Warding and cut off the Warp, or they just have more Orks to try to work on.

[Duckie]

Ghetto Edit- A thought just occured. WAAAAGH! only works because of the leader- all the Necrons need to do is slip into a system with Ghazgul or whoever is leading, and kill him and the Orks will dismantle.

Chaos is doubly screwed because during "big" WAAAGH!s, Gork and Mork supposedly nearly become Chaos Gods. With a Galactic WAAAGH!, Gork and Mork likely would approach the power of the Ruinous Powers, would they not?

[NecronLord]

The orks are incapable of uniting. They can no more do it that you can will yourself into an elf. If you make them capable of uniting, they are no longer krork, and are just some fanwank creation.

[Duckie]

The orks are incapable of uniting. They can no more do it that you can will yourself into an elf. If you make them capable of uniting, they are no longer krork, and are just some fanwank creation.

Yes, but it's also impossible to recreate Behemoth, reunite Leviathan, recall Perseus, and almalgate all of the Tyranids into a gigantic Uber Hive Fleet. A RAWR HUNGRY Ultra-Tyranid fleet is fanwank, too.

The Necrons awakening at all is a form of fanwank* since it would dominate all the other unwanked races. (They'd wipe everything away and cut the Warp, destroying the setting.)

And really removing the Imperium violates the settling five ways since sunday.

*Fanwank in the way that it's possible, but GW will never have it happen, sort of like Abaddon's Black Crusades actually reaching Earth and furfilling his promise to bring down the Imperium would be one.

[The Grim Squeaker]

The orks are incapable of uniting. They can no more do it that you can will yourself into an elf. If you make them capable of uniting, they are no longer krork, and are just some fanwank creation.

But WAAAGH's do snowball, and a genius leader starting with a succesful razing of a system without getting himself killed would have a chance at it.

Also how would the odds change without the imperium being neutered?
Can a mod change my OP to delete the part about the imperium being weakened please?

[NecronLord]

*Fanwank in the way that it's possible, but GW will never have it happen, sort of like Abaddon's Black Crusades actually reaching Earth and furfilling his promise to bring down the Imperium would be one.

Actually, just about the only thing we know about the 42nd Millenium is that the necrons have become a vastly bigger threat, in the eyes of Amberly Vail, at any rate.

[NecronLord]

But WAAAGH's do snowball, and a genius leader starting with a succesful razing of a system without getting himself killed would have a chance at it.

Okay genius. How do they arrange this without the astopath gene?

[18-Till-I-Die]

The orks are incapable of uniting. They can no more do it that you can will yourself into an elf. If you make them capable of uniting, they are no longer krork, and are just some fanwank creation.

Well the whole idea behind the thread IS to say, what if this 'fanwank' idea did happen. So i see no reason why not to just say, well, the Tyranids unite, the Necrons all wake up, and the Orks get together for once. Yeah it's impossible but it's interesting to discuss so just roll with it...

Or is it the sinking feeling of the Necrons, 'nids and Chaos being blasted across the known galaxy by Da Boyz that bothers you? (i joke!)

[The Grim Squeaker]

But WAAAGH's do snowball, and a genius leader starting with a succesful razing of a system without getting himself killed would have a chance at it.

Okay genius. How do they arrange this without the astopath gene?

Either a huge fleet of space hulks, capturing an entrance to a eldar webway (I dont know fuck about the web, so do'nt flame me on this), or just using some servitors or cowardly/traitor astropaths as slaves (the way they use their technology anyway is mainly with human slaves rather than mekboyz).

[NecronLord]

Or is it the sinking feeling of the Necrons, 'nids and Chaos being blasted across the known galaxy by Da Boyz that bothers you? (i joke!)

Not really. The fully wanked necrons considered 'da boyz' to be glorified landmines, remember. The necrons can just hole up in places the krork don't want to go, work for a few centuries, and watch the krork's shit simply stop working when the ward is completed.

[Lost Soal]

But WAAAGH's do snowball, and a genius leader starting with a succesful razing of a system without getting himself killed would have a chance at it.

Okay genius. How do they arrange this without the astopath gene?

How did they manage to get 13 space hulks all together in the same fleet to come out of the warp at Armageddon. The very planet Ghazgkull actually planned to attack. The don't have the Navigator gene but they clearly have some method of gathering in the place they've been drawn to.

[NecronLord]

How did they manage to get 13 space hulks all together in the same fleet to come out of the warp at Armageddon. The very planet Ghazgkull actually planned to attack. The don't have the Navigator gene but they clearly have some method of gathering in the place they've been drawn to.

Easy enough. They build (or rather, orkified) them together.

[18-Till-I-Die]

No, no...i remember the Armageddon webits by GW specifically mentionin that, and showing, they were individual hulks. I'm PRETTY sure now. I think i read a similar question before, the basic thing the fluff said wa sthat it was instinct, follow the leader, like bird migration.

'Boss go dat' way, we go dat' way! 'Ere we go! 'Ere we go!' and all that.

[Lost Soal]

Easy enough. They build (or rather, orkified) them together.

They still had to direct them into the spacific location. Something which is allegedly impossible without a navigator.

Incidently, for the poll, I vote nids. ALthough I prefere Orks, I believe its been esentially hinted/stated that the nids number so many that they've actually encirclled the galaxy. Don't forget they've already eaten at least one galaxy. Thats a lot of building resources.

[Duckie]

GW thinks that the Orks can overwhelm the entire galaxy when united, which I guess doesn't include 'Nids because they're extragalactic right now with the exception of Leviathan and Kraken.

In fact the only thing keeping the Orks from uniting and bringing down the end of the galaxy is their inability to get along. Were they to organize and unify, they would quickly overwhelm and crush all opposition.

[NecronLord]

No, no...i remember the Armageddon webits by GW specifically mentionin that, and showing, they were individual hulks. I'm PRETTY sure now. I think i read a similar question before, the basic thing the fluff said wa sthat it was instinct, follow the leader, like bird migration.

Dude. A mekboy rarely, if ever makes two shootas the same. What makes you think one hulk would bear even a passing resemblance to another?

[fgalkin]

But WAAAGH's do snowball, and a genius leader starting with a succesful razing of a system without getting himself killed would have a chance at it.

Okay genius. How do they arrange this without the astopath gene?

What if they believe really hard that this walkie-talkie here can communicate with one on a space hulk in another system?

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

[18-Till-I-Die]

No, no...i remember the Armageddon webits by GW specifically mentionin that, and showing, they were individual hulks. I'm PRETTY sure now. I think i read a similar question before, the basic thing the fluff said wa sthat it was instinct, follow the leader, like bird migration.

Dude. A mekboy rarely, if ever makes two shootas the same. What makes you think one hulk would bear even a passing resemblance to another?

Err...I dont understand, i never said anything about hwo the hulks look. I was saying in the video-illustration thing the Hulks were clearly, as i recall, seperate individual hulks.

[Bill Door]

Oh yes, this was the place alright. The place where these spark-spitting orks talked to others on other ships and helped the hulk's commanders see their enemies. the which powered aliens who, Korland [apprentice to a Magus Biologis. He had been studing orks for his journeyman's thesis] had told them confidently, would die of their own excitement as soon as any fighting started, leaving the hulk blinded and the greenskins unable to communicate.

It was used to communicate with an Iron Warrior's battlebarge, which took place 30 days before the Marines boarded. This gives us little real usable information though, apart from demonstrating the ability.

[NecronLord]

* Rubs the bridge of his nose *

They build the hulks together in the sense of star destroyers at kaut being built together, as in, in the same system, not build them into one coherent mass.

[18-Till-I-Die]

* Rubs the bridge of his nose *

They build the hulks together in the sense of star destroyers at kaut being built together, as in, in the same system, not build them into one coherent mass.

Ah...i didnt get that originally. Ok, so we were saying like the same thing, my bad.